Dragonknight 1vX - PvP Move - Outnumbered

Sypher

Thechemicals wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Stam build will wreck this build. Annulment, reflect, and his set gear are all useless against pure power stam. But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player.

I'm sure he would change up some things if he were fighting a stam build. Just as an example, if he were facing a stam 2H NB let's say, he could use spiked armor/spiked bone shield for the dmg return, ash cloud for the miss chance, stone fist to knock down at range, arena set to break fear (plus a blocking enchant to maintain stam) - and that would go a long way just there. I dueled someone (first time, didn't enjoy it, won't be doing again) with this NB build yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I could beat him with that setup if I cared to. Cept I'm a temp ofc, and Blazing Shield would be spammed instead of volatile armor, blinding flashes instead of ash cloud, and binding javelin instead of stone fist.

r u talking about a duel? This thread is about him cashing out on Anulment to kill large numbers of player who are feeding him magicka so he can spam reflect and Shields until he can ultimate them to death.

....well that's kind of what you implied....obv there was at least one guy with a stam build somewhere in there, doesn't really matter, in open world pvp stam builds suck. one guy beating on you doesn't make a difference when as you said, there are 10 others giving him ult.

"But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player".

Thats the second sentence in my original post. I promise you this, this guy aint showing up to a tournament with an anti-stam build and he is going to get wrecked for it.

My standard dueling set up that I run is anti-everything, I can use it against every class or build. It's all about adjusting my play style during the fight and playing to my strengths.

I run a dueling guild with hundreds of players in it. There is only one person who goes 50/50 with me right now, and he's running a NB glass cannon build with 2.1k health. I'm still trying to figure out a counter play style for him. But I do appreciate the fact that he thought outside the box and created a beast NB build. (The build is a secret, so please don't ask.)

Thats because i left Legend last week.

Yeah I still don't recall going 50/50 with anyone over the past month until Arax made his new build.

What was your display name?

Tankqull

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

My standard dueling set up that I run is anti-everything, I can use it against every class or build. It's all about adjusting my play style during the fight and playing to my strengths.

I run a dueling guild with hundreds of players in it. There is only one person who goes 50/50 with me right now, and he's running a NB glass cannon build with 2.1k health. I'm still trying to figure out a counter play style for him. But I do appreciate the fact that he thought outside the box and created a beast NB build. (The build is a secret, so please don't ask.)

well thats the "problem" Dk´s are too well rounded - every other class has at least an entire class as its predator. the only predator to DK´s is making failures on your own...

Sypher

Tankqull wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

My standard dueling set up that I run is anti-everything, I can use it against every class or build. It's all about adjusting my play style during the fight and playing to my strengths.

I run a dueling guild with hundreds of players in it. There is only one person who goes 50/50 with me right now, and he's running a NB glass cannon build with 2.1k health. I'm still trying to figure out a counter play style for him. But I do appreciate the fact that he thought outside the box and created a beast NB build. (The build is a secret, so please don't ask.)

well thats the "problem" Dk´s are too well rounded - every other class has at least an entire class as its predator. the only predator to DK´s is making failures on your own...

Yes we do have a lot of utilities to counter other classes, but that only really shines in duels. In open world I can't walk around with spiked armor, fossilize, stone fist, and other duel oriented abilities.

Sorc's, Templars, and Nightblades can change a few things to counter a DK before a duel.

This Nightblade that I'm talking about uses the same build against every class/build he goes against. So you could also say he maximized the utilities he has and now all he has to do is adjust his play style to win a duel, not his build.

Edit: I think I just found a counter to this NB glass cannon build. He heavily relies on killing me with soul tether.. and white-strakes procs even if you drop from above 30% to 0%. Going to test it out.

Insurrektion

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

Braidas

JaJaLuka wrote: »

lol, hi Braidas

I have been having some success with my crits recently Braidas, that on top of execute which deals more damage the lower your health goes seems to confuse a lot of people as to what is actually happening.

ya you can get some crazy hits with 2 handers if you gear just for it. i liked that sorc vid someone posted a while ago getting 2.5k hits on unsuspecting people aha.

Braidas

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

david.j.dubay_ESO

@Sypher - I think you are a well above average player. I have faced you and I don't like it, lol. However, I did not see you face anyone who was even half decent in the video, that would be a change of pace that would be interesting to watch.

Also, do you have a maxed out character of another class? I would like to see you pull of the same stuff with a non-DK. I suspect you can do it, and it would shut up a lot of the DK haters.

I don't play DK, and I hate facing them... but I don't expect to kill everyone I face all the time. That's what BE is for.

Sypher

david.j.dubay_ESO wrote: »

@Sypher - I think you are a well above average player. I have faced you and I don't like it, lol. However, I did not see you face anyone who was even half decent in the video, that would be a change of pace that would be interesting to watch.

Also, do you have a maxed out character of another class? I would like to see you pull of the same stuff with a non-DK. I suspect you can do it, and it would shut up a lot of the DK haters.

I don't play DK, and I hate facing them... but I don't expect to kill everyone I face all the time. That's what BE is for.

If I go against a group of 3-5 really good players, it's REALLY hard for me to come up on top. Especially if they are organized and have a healer or two. I can give them a hell of a time and maybe kill 1 or 2. But it would take some real timing, surprise, and luck to be able to take on skillful groups.

I do however duel very skilled players everyday and preform well against them. But, dueling is a different ball game.

I'm currently working on a Sorcerer, and I also want to level up a nightblade. I just hate the grind. I really have some cool ideas for both Sorc and Nightblade that I want to try out. Just need some time to level up.

Aoe_Barbecue

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I still don't recall going 50/50 with anyone over the past month until Arax made his new build.

What was your display name?

You were losing more than you won against Humble Soul last I remember? It was back when the pet was double 'sploding though.

Mykah

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Stam build will wreck this build. Annulment, reflect, and his set gear are all useless against pure power stam. But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player.

I'm sure he would change up some things if he were fighting a stam build. Just as an example, if he were facing a stam 2H NB let's say, he could use spiked armor/spiked bone shield for the dmg return, ash cloud for the miss chance, stone fist to knock down at range, arena set to break fear (plus a blocking enchant to maintain stam) - and that would go a long way just there. I dueled someone (first time, didn't enjoy it, won't be doing again) with this NB build yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I could beat him with that setup if I cared to. Cept I'm a temp ofc, and Blazing Shield would be spammed instead of volatile armor, blinding flashes instead of ash cloud, and binding javelin instead of stone fist.

r u talking about a duel? This thread is about him cashing out on Anulment to kill large numbers of player who are feeding him magicka so he can spam reflect and Shields until he can ultimate them to death.

....well that's kind of what you implied....obv there was at least one guy with a stam build somewhere in there, doesn't really matter, in open world pvp stam builds suck. one guy beating on you doesn't make a difference when as you said, there are 10 others giving him ult.

"But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player".

Thats the second sentence in my original post. I promise you this, this guy aint showing up to a tournament with an anti-stam build and he is going to get wrecked for it.

My standard dueling set up that I run is anti-everything, I can use it against every class or build. It's all about adjusting my play style during the fight and playing to my strengths.

I run a dueling guild with hundreds of players in it. There is only one person who goes 50/50 with me right now, and he's running a NB glass cannon build with 2.1k health. I'm still trying to figure out a counter play style for him. But I do appreciate the fact that he thought outside the box and created a beast NB build. (The build is a secret, so please don't ask.)

Light armor, 1h/s resto off, invasion impale hidden strike, soul tether.
Am I close?

Whats funny is this glass canon NB build can 50/50 you, but would get rocked 1v2 while you with the same duel build can ulti 10 pugs to death. ESO balance.

Sypher

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I still don't recall going 50/50 with anyone over the past month until Arax made his new build.

What was your display name?

You were losing more than you won against Humble Soul last I remember? It was back when the pet was double 'sploding though.

Yeah he beat me a few more than I beat him with that pet build. once they fixed the pet bug I started beating him again.

There wasn't much I could do against 850+ AoE unblockable low cost damage. Glad they fixed that bug lol.

At the moment, harness magicka is ruining duels as it returns magicka even on light attacks and stamina attacks. Magicka management is a joke because of that. I hope ZOS fixes harness soon.

Ezareth

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Stam build will wreck this build. Annulment, reflect, and his set gear are all useless against pure power stam. But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player.

I'm sure he would change up some things if he were fighting a stam build. Just as an example, if he were facing a stam 2H NB let's say, he could use spiked armor/spiked bone shield for the dmg return, ash cloud for the miss chance, stone fist to knock down at range, arena set to break fear (plus a blocking enchant to maintain stam) - and that would go a long way just there. I dueled someone (first time, didn't enjoy it, won't be doing again) with this NB build yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I could beat him with that setup if I cared to. Cept I'm a temp ofc, and Blazing Shield would be spammed instead of volatile armor, blinding flashes instead of ash cloud, and binding javelin instead of stone fist.

r u talking about a duel? This thread is about him cashing out on Anulment to kill large numbers of player who are feeding him magicka so he can spam reflect and Shields until he can ultimate them to death.

....well that's kind of what you implied....obv there was at least one guy with a stam build somewhere in there, doesn't really matter, in open world pvp stam builds suck. one guy beating on you doesn't make a difference when as you said, there are 10 others giving him ult.

"But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player".

Thats the second sentence in my original post. I promise you this, this guy aint showing up to a tournament with an anti-stam build and he is going to get wrecked for it.

My standard dueling set up that I run is anti-everything, I can use it against every class or build. It's all about adjusting my play style during the fight and playing to my strengths.

I run a dueling guild with hundreds of players in it. There is only one person who goes 50/50 with me right now, and he's running a NB glass cannon build with 2.1k health. I'm still trying to figure out a counter play style for him. But I do appreciate the fact that he thought outside the box and created a beast NB build. (The build is a secret, so please don't ask.)

Thats because i left Legend last week.

Yeah I still don't recall going 50/50 with anyone over the past month until Arax made his new build.

What was your display name?

Now I don't feel so bad that he beat me soundly 2 times in a row. Granted I was 700 hitpoints short of my normal Cyrodiil build and I didn't know until later that I was in my PvE gear with no impenetrable but I've never seen a NB hit so freaking hard so quickly.

Props to that guy for not joining the ranks of NB whiners I see around here. Fear is so damn powerful and so few NBs use it which is why most of them are easy kills.

Mykah wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Stam build will wreck this build. Annulment, reflect, and his set gear are all useless against pure power stam. But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player.

I'm sure he would change up some things if he were fighting a stam build. Just as an example, if he were facing a stam 2H NB let's say, he could use spiked armor/spiked bone shield for the dmg return, ash cloud for the miss chance, stone fist to knock down at range, arena set to break fear (plus a blocking enchant to maintain stam) - and that would go a long way just there. I dueled someone (first time, didn't enjoy it, won't be doing again) with this NB build yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I could beat him with that setup if I cared to. Cept I'm a temp ofc, and Blazing Shield would be spammed instead of volatile armor, blinding flashes instead of ash cloud, and binding javelin instead of stone fist.

r u talking about a duel? This thread is about him cashing out on Anulment to kill large numbers of player who are feeding him magicka so he can spam reflect and Shields until he can ultimate them to death.

....well that's kind of what you implied....obv there was at least one guy with a stam build somewhere in there, doesn't really matter, in open world pvp stam builds suck. one guy beating on you doesn't make a difference when as you said, there are 10 others giving him ult.

"But yes, against blobs you can win because they arent organized to stop casting magicka based spells and feeding you. Gratz you beat the standard mmo player".

Thats the second sentence in my original post. I promise you this, this guy aint showing up to a tournament with an anti-stam build and he is going to get wrecked for it.

My standard dueling set up that I run is anti-everything, I can use it against every class or build. It's all about adjusting my play style during the fight and playing to my strengths.

I run a dueling guild with hundreds of players in it. There is only one person who goes 50/50 with me right now, and he's running a NB glass cannon build with 2.1k health. I'm still trying to figure out a counter play style for him. But I do appreciate the fact that he thought outside the box and created a beast NB build. (The build is a secret, so please don't ask.)

Light armor, 1h/s resto off, invasion impale hidden strike, soul tether.
Am I close?

Whats funny is this glass canon NB build can 50/50 you, but would get rocked 1v2 while you with the same duel build can ulti 10 pugs to death. ESO balance.

Any class can kill 10 pugs who run to their deaths and have no idea how the game is played. They fed him ultimate which in turn fed him more ults.

There isn't a player in this game who can kill 2 other equally skilled players, including sypher. I'd take me and a templar friend against any DK in the game 10 times out of 10 and they'd have no chance of victory. People die in 1vX matchups because they're less skilled and more importantly understand game mechanics less than the person they are facing.

Insurrektion

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

Braidas

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

Sypher

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

How far are they in the production stage. And do you truly believe they can pull off a decent game with the minimal money raised?

Just wondering.

Braidas

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

How far are they in the production stage. And do you truly believe they can pull off a decent game with the minimal money raised?

Just wondering.

still pre-alpha i believe, prob still 1-2 years out. and the lead dude matched the money raised with his own plus other moneys from various sources,so it seems well-funded enough.

i never played daoc but the praise from the players and the fact that eso pvp is predicated on it tells me if they can at least match it CU will be great. i'm sure there're many older guys on here that are more informed and have played daoc, but from what i've checked out i'm pretty excited. you can watch design docs of a lot of the core concepts on their website to get an idea of the game.

going to be just PvP btw, so all dev attention on it

Asgari

Braidas wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

How far are they in the production stage. And do you truly believe they can pull off a decent game with the minimal money raised?

Just wondering.

still pre-alpha i believe, prob still 1-2 years out. and the lead dude matched the money raised with his own plus other moneys from various sources,so it seems well-funded enough.

i never played daoc but the praise from the players and the fact that eso pvp is predicated on it tells me if they can at least match it CU will be great. i'm sure there're many older guys on here that are more informed and have played daoc, but from what i've checked out i'm pretty excited. you can watch design docs of a lot of the core concepts on their website to get an idea of the game.

going to be just PvP btw, so all dev attention on it

Many of us are waiting for further news on CU. The lack of attention to PvP is really apparent here.

The video was nicely done as usual! I have a Sorc and a NB that are very fun to use in PvP and each fit their own play style. Im currently leveling a DK so im looking forward to seeing how that varies 1vX wise from my Sorc which does very well.

Braidas

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

How far are they in the production stage. And do you truly believe they can pull off a decent game with the minimal money raised?

Just wondering.

still pre-alpha i believe, prob still 1-2 years out. and the lead dude matched the money raised with his own plus other moneys from various sources,so it seems well-funded enough.

i never played daoc but the praise from the players and the fact that eso pvp is predicated on it tells me if they can at least match it CU will be great. i'm sure there're many older guys on here that are more informed and have played daoc, but from what i've checked out i'm pretty excited. you can watch design docs of a lot of the core concepts on their website to get an idea of the game.

going to be just PvP btw, so all dev attention on it

Many of us are waiting for further news on CU. The lack of attention to PvP is really apparent here.

The video was nicely done as usual! I have a Sorc and a NB that are very fun to use in PvP and each fit their own play style. Im currently leveling a DK so im looking forward to seeing how that varies 1vX wise from my Sorc which does very well.

mmmmm perhaps Ariana Kishi would like a taste of my Piercing Javelin? i have an Explosive Charge ready for her to Inhale

Sanct16

Well saying that only DK has a allround build for duels doesn't fit my experiences at all.

Every good dueler I know (playing on EU server) has a build that he uses against pretty much everyone and just makes some slight adjustments if needed (what DKs do too).

Sorcerer build: Stack Hardened Ward, Healing Ward and Harness Magicka. Streak around, use Curse, Crystal Fragments and Mages Wrath. Maybe Entropy aswell.

Nb build: Summon shadows to drain stamina, go ranged with Swallow Soul and Cripple. If enemy comes too close use fear and/or port back to the shadow.

Templar build: Keep up Blazing Shield and exploit permastun with biting jabs until enemy dies

JaJaLuka

Sanct16 wrote: »

Well saying that only DK has a allround build for duels doesn't fit my experiences at all.

Every good dueler I know (playing on EU server) has a build that he uses against pretty much everyone and just makes some slight adjustments if needed (what DKs do too).

Sorcerer build: Stack Hardened Ward, Healing Ward and Harness Magicka. Streak around, use Curse, Crystal Fragments and Mages Wrath. Maybe Entropy aswell.

Nb build: Summon shadows to drain stamina, go ranged with Swallow Soul and Cripple. If enemy comes too close use fear and/or port back to the shadow.

Templar build: Keep up Blazing Shield and exploit permastun with biting jabs until enemy dies

With that last bit on Templars, their blazing shield and self healing can be countered with a disease weapon enchantment. Not the perfect strategy as it can be countered with purge, but for the most part it works well enough.

Thechemicals

Ill be going out to duel tonight. 10pm-11pm est.

Fillem_Fulla

I know naming is bad but in this case hova u need to put up or shut up. I say this because not only does Sypher put up video's on his gameplay he also shows his builds and gear setups for all to see. Hence improving the community. Where r ur builds and explanations on why u took them?
Let me guess there r none because showing them off would make u vulnerable. Or r u really hiding behind broken mechanics that are undiscovered yet?

Sypher good job on the video man keep up with build updates u and sweetroll r doing goodwork fo the community.

Zintair

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

How far are they in the production stage. And do you truly believe they can pull off a decent game with the minimal money raised?

Just wondering.

Considering how many Companies have failed with RIDICULOUS FUNDING... I'd say definitely.

Citation SWTOR and ESO.

It's a niche Open world PvP game is all. Definitely hope to see you over there.

Fillem_Fulla

Sypher reroll AD and go come play on Chillrend. Sypher vs Hova. Love to see that fight.

Sanct16

I think Sypher has a AD DK.

Asgari

Braidas wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

Braidas wrote: »

Insurrektion wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

Call me hater call me jelous I dont care but should not be possible sorry...
Tankers should tank not tank and dps like that. Proof that pvp is unballanced.

Good thing ESO lets any class perform any role and since his DK is in cloth armor he definitely isn't a tank. In other news, pure tanks don't work in pvp. The closest I\ve ever seen it to working is the marauder class in FF14, where they could pop a bunch of cds and front-load a ton of damage, enough to potentially kill clothies.

I have high hopes for playing a Golem in CU.

What is this CU you speak of?

camelot unchained my friend

How far are they in the production stage. And do you truly believe they can pull off a decent game with the minimal money raised?

Just wondering.

still pre-alpha i believe, prob still 1-2 years out. and the lead dude matched the money raised with his own plus other moneys from various sources,so it seems well-funded enough.

i never played daoc but the praise from the players and the fact that eso pvp is predicated on it tells me if they can at least match it CU will be great. i'm sure there're many older guys on here that are more informed and have played daoc, but from what i've checked out i'm pretty excited. you can watch design docs of a lot of the core concepts on their website to get an idea of the game.

going to be just PvP btw, so all dev attention on it

Many of us are waiting for further news on CU. The lack of attention to PvP is really apparent here.

The video was nicely done as usual! I have a Sorc and a NB that are very fun to use in PvP and each fit their own play style. Im currently leveling a DK so im looking forward to seeing how that varies 1vX wise from my Sorc which does very well.

mmmmm perhaps Ariana Kishi would like a taste of my Piercing Javelin? i have an Explosive Charge ready for her to Inhale

Xsorus

For the record sypher..Dark Age of Camelot was made with 3 Million.

They got 2.2 million from Kickstarter, and Mark Jacobs and hits friends put in another 5 or 6 million I believe.

Since their game isn't going to have PvE they can cut out a lot of the crap that normally cost a ton of money.

Sypher

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

For the record sypher..Dark Age of Camelot was made with 3 Million.

They got 2.2 million from Kickstarter, and Mark Jacobs and hits friends put in another 5 or 6 million I believe.

Since their game isn't going to have PvE they can cut out a lot of the crap that normally cost a ton of money.

That's good to know. PvP development is usually a lot cheaper because it's the players who create the enjoyable experience for themselves.

Devs can work for months on a quest that PVE players will finish in 1 day and be done. But if they add something as simple as dueling a friend or a new pvp objective, we can have fun for months before getting bored.

Vesir

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

For the record sypher..Dark Age of Camelot was made with 3 Million.

They got 2.2 million from Kickstarter, and Mark Jacobs and hits friends put in another 5 or 6 million I believe.

Since their game isn't going to have PvE they can cut out a lot of the crap that normally cost a ton of money.

That's good to know. PvP development is usually a lot cheaper because it's the players who create the enjoyable experience for themselves.

Devs can work for months on a quest that PVE players will finish in 1 day and be done. But if they add something as simple as dueling a friend or a new pvp objective, we can have fun for months before getting bored.

right, but it might not be the shangri-la for everyone. since i know they're very against having any arena type system in the game (a setup instanced grp v grp or 1v1 area)

but i still think it'll be great

Braidas

Vesir wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

For the record sypher..Dark Age of Camelot was made with 3 Million.

They got 2.2 million from Kickstarter, and Mark Jacobs and hits friends put in another 5 or 6 million I believe.

Since their game isn't going to have PvE they can cut out a lot of the crap that normally cost a ton of money.

That's good to know. PvP development is usually a lot cheaper because it's the players who create the enjoyable experience for themselves.

Devs can work for months on a quest that PVE players will finish in 1 day and be done. But if they add something as simple as dueling a friend or a new pvp objective, we can have fun for months before getting bored.

right, but it might not be the shangri-la for everyone. since i know they're very against having any arena type system in the game (a setup instanced grp v grp or 1v1 area)

but i still think it'll be great

good good, sounds like they're going to have all their resources in the right places i hope ZOS never implements them either