ArcheAge is here, more than happy to stay with ESO.

Moonglum83

I know that this is purely my opinion, and I'm happy for others to give theirs; I think ArcheAge is poo.

The graphics, even on ultra, doesn't compare to ESO. I loaded ESO up after a stint on ArcheAge, and not only does it feel fluid, but also more responsive.

Granted, there are loads of things in both that are good and bad. ESO just feels more mature, more serious.

I could list so much more, and will if asked.

But what do you think? Do you think the ArcheAge hype is warranted?

ers101284b14_ESO

ArcheAge has a nice character custimzation. The rest of it I couldn't get into. But remember AA is F2P so there's no reason people can't play both. But advertising for another game is against the forum rules. Also don't be one of those people who bash a game just because you don't like it. The devs over there worked hard on it and deserve respect too.

Moonglum83

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

ArcheAge has a nice character custimzation. The rest of it I couldn't get into. But remember AA is F2P so there's no reason people can't play both. But advertising for another game is against the forum rules. Also don't be one of those people who bash a game just because you don't like it. The devs over there worked hard on it and deserve respect too.

Oh, I agree. Clearly a lot of work went into AA, and it is fine for what it is. My apologies if I came across as being one of those people who bash games, I'm not and am sorry it it seemed that way.

The reason I wanted to hear what everyone else thought, is because I read an article (will have to look for it again) where the reviewer praised AA to the high heavens, and slated ESO. I personally did not agree with the majority of the points he raised or thought one was better than the other.

But like you said, one is F2P, so there is that.

Skraticus

I was planning on playing both myself, actually. It's downloading right now as a matter of fact. But, as @ers101284b14_ESO‌ said, I'm planning on sticking with ESO as well. AA is free so I figured why not give it a whirl. Steam buddy of mine was going on about it and said it was pretty fun. Some of the ideas behind it sounded really sweet, but not sure how well they play out.

I did wonder though how much it would affect ESO.

Dekkameron

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

ArcheAge has a nice character custimzation. .

Umm... No not really.. Better than wow sure.. but i find it amusing that was the first thing you complimented it on when comparing to ESO. Sure it kinda has a few more hair styles (for females, the hair choices for men are ALL awful) and some other little touches.. BUT.. there is no control over the body other than skin colour, and don't get me started on the bizarre humongous breasts.

BBSooner

Moonglum83 wrote: »

I know that this is purely my opinion, and I'm happy for others to give theirs; I think ArcheAge is poo.

The graphics, even on ultra, doesn't compare to ESO. I loaded ESO up after a stint on ArcheAge, and not only does it feel fluid, but also more responsive.

Granted, there are loads of things in both that are good and bad. ESO just feels more mature, more serious.

I could list so much more, and will if asked.

But what do you think? Do you think the ArcheAge hype is warranted?

Agreed. After 5 minutes of the quest dialogue bongo music I wanted to strangle the music director. Without drawing out a huge post, Since Archeage may be some people's new fave, I'll simply say it's not my thing after a struggle to enjoy what I was playing.

ers101284b14_ESO

It will affect ESO as much as W* did. It's not gonna be a killer. Heck the other day while ESO was doing maintenance I loaded up GW2 again. 10 minutes later I remembered why I didn't play since release but still it's a game I already owned and didn't cost any extra so it's all good. I also usually bounce between about 6 games myself. ESO doesn't have to be the only game you play.

kitsinni

All new games have too much hype this one included and none of them ever live up to it. I'm downloading it now ESO is just been frustration. I like the game but it doesn't seem like the devs can decide on a direction.

ers101284b14_ESO

Dekkameron wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

ArcheAge has a nice character custimzation. .

Umm... No not really.. Better than wow sure.. but i find it amusing that was the first thing you complimented it on when comparing to ESO. Sure it kinda has a few more hair styles (for females, the hair choices for men are ALL awful) and some other little touches.. BUT.. there is no control over the body other than skin colour, and don't get me started on the bizarre humongous breasts.

I liked being able to have scars and tattoos where I pick the position, placement, size and all that. I love ESOs character customization but I want to place my tats and not have them static.

wolfydog

I thought Acheage char creation was to limited since you could not change the body. I did try the game since it was free and it just felt generic. Once everyone has better armor and helms everyone will look the same. And then the game itself was just bland.

In ESO I did spend a lot of time making my characters and I do feel they are my own character and besides maybe only other players having the same hairstyles sometimes that's the only similarity.

babylon

Moonglum83 wrote: »

ArcheAge is poo.

This^

Epona222

I might give it a go just to see what it's like - I love ESO but it's not like I signed a contract banning me from playing (and even enjoying!) other games or trying out other MMOs. I don't understand this sort of notion that one game is a threat to another, or that as players of game A we are supposed to hate game B, I just have never understood that mentality. Also as far as I can tell it is a very different game to this, likely attracting a different audience. I can't even see that they are in direct competition.

j_labbeb16_ESO

Me being a stamina build NB and being burned to the ground in this last patch, then having Zenimax say they don't plan on fixing them till next patch made me bite the bullet and buy Destiny on the PS4. If that game is as good as it claims to be Zenimax can kiss my sub goodbye, and likely won't be coming back till the game is released on the consoles, stamina builds are properly fixed and the PC to Console transfer is an option.

Crazy that I've sunk this much time into the game, been playing since beta and to have no desire to log in when I have free time.

GoatKnuckle

Moonglum83 wrote: »

Granted, there are loads of things in both that are good and bad. ESO just feels more mature, more serious.

ESO has never struck me a serious or mature endeavor in terms of its artistic tone or storytelling. Does Archage have you save a band of Teletubbies from from the dastardly depths of pop-culture references or something?

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

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PTR is up with new features

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

HEY is ArcheAge makers of rift ????

Swampster

Archeage is actually a decent game once you start getting into it's 'systems' and not play it like a typical western MMO.. However, the whole concept of griefing can be taken to a whole new level, and is actually part and parcel of the game.. so while it looks nice, has some really unique features.. it's not my cup-of-tea!

Elvent

I would have tried out Archeage but I heard it was a PvP oriented game and even out in the world you're always flagged...I hate PvP so won't bother wasting my time I guess, it did look really nice up until I read that's it's PvP oriented.

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

i really loved rift but the gfx were really choppy even when i bought an new gaming pc for 700£

guna download it with my super dupper speed and try it for the pvp - it has pvp right ?

Sindala

inspiral1 wrote: »

HEY is ArcheAge makers of rift ????

Nah, they just got the rights to run it for the Western world.

I was excited by Archeage when I first read about it, I even got into beta testing....I lasted about half hour.
Couldn't put up with the super-imposed char animation on rendered backgrounds, it's like cartoon effect.
The game is very deep and well thought out and the crafting side is awesome....you just can't get past the graphics which are designed for the Eastern market.

If only a Western game would take that much effort into the mechanics of a game and not just concentrate on extra fluff to sell....

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

Sindala wrote: »

inspiral1 wrote: »

HEY is ArcheAge makers of rift ????

Nah, they just got the rights to run it for the Western world.

I was excited by Archeage when I first read about it, I even got into beta testing....I lasted about half hour.
Couldn't put up with the super-imposed char animation on rendered backgrounds, it's like cartoon effect.
The game is very deep and well thought out and the crafting side is awesome....you just can't get past the graphics which are designed for the Eastern market.

If only a Western game would take that much effort into the mechanics of a game and not just concentrate on extra fluff to sell....

so does it have standard questing an pve too ?

Azzuria

AA was OK. Played the Beta a few times but, to be honest, the overwhelming Korean-ness of it was off-putting. It's far too cartoony and asian for my taste.

The questing was soooo on-rails, do damned direct it almost made SWTOR's original space missions seem sandbox-y. Granted, I only got to level 15 on one toon so can't say if it gets better after that.

It has a lot of neat stuff like housing, gardens and a HUGELY deep and vast trade system and a very deep and varied 'class' system. But that doesn't make up for the over-all look and feel of the game. Polished? Yes. Attractive to me? Not so much.

After taking a few weeks off from ESO ( vacation, ya know ), coming back I was floored, literally, by just how gorgeous the world is. And after re-mapping my keybinds ( Razor Hex mouse ) the combat felt visceral and fun, better even than I remembered it being.

I -might- play AA again just for a distraction but can't see myself investing any real time into the game. I have the same issues with AA that I had with Wildstar; just too cartoony and kinda silly-looking.

LunaRae

Several guildies went over to ArchAge and one of them even streamed the early access that was last weekend! I observed about 14 hours of farming simulator 2014 and about 14 hours of "You are 2,090 in queue". Did you know there is a founders queue? People who paid the $140 get placed in a special queue and get into the game before non-founders. Funny thing was, since this event was only for the pre-orders / founders, everyone was in the same queue. My streaming friend had a bug where any time he looked at the cash shop his game would crash and then he'd get forced into the giant 1.5 hour queue (legit time). ALSO, people were abusing the system and getting into the regular non-founder queue, that for some dumb reason, would let you into the game instantly BEFORE founders.

Totally off-topic, I know. But people need to understand that EVERY game has launch problems, that's the way they release them now. ArchAge is a Korean grind MMO as my streaming friend told me, that's what he wanted. He wants to spend 5 months getting one item that's shiny and rare. ESO is not that, and I'm here playing ESO having fun.

Marthea

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

But remember AA is F2P so there's no reason people can't play both.

It's only free to play to a point. Housing/gardens etc are pay players only. Even in Beta you could not access that content without paying.

I lasted a whole two days before I uninstalled it, ESO is a much better game even with its flaws.

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

do you have to keep buying credits or is there subscription ?

ers101284b14_ESO

Marthea wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

But remember AA is F2P so there's no reason people can't play both.

It's only free to play to a point. Housing/gardens etc are pay players only. Even in Beta you could not access that content without paying.

I lasted a whole two days before I uninstalled it, ESO is a much better game even with its flaws.

True but ESO doesn't have housing either But my point is people make it seem like you can only play 1 game or 1 MMO at a time. I play ESO, Destiny, Sword Art Online, Still Playing the FFX/X-2 remaster, got some other PS Vita games I toggle between. I am getting Lords of The Fallen next Month. I play all games I can.

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

jesus hope it look sbetter on my pc - just watched a YT vid looks horrible gfx

Kangas

Any MMO with a free to play build from the beginning really puts me off at this point. Rift has been the exception as far as making the transition smoothly from subscriber to f2p and not pissing off subscribers. But AA (published by Trion also but not developed by them) had f2p in mind from the beginning.

I have to believe you get "less of a game" when it's designed like that from ground up. Only because of the feeling of getting nickled and dimed and pressured to pay if you enjoy features. I'd almost rather them offer me a subscription rate that bundles enough awesome features to make the game feel complete and not bother me with nag-upgrades.

Swtor was the worst with F2p greed. Lotro felt second to that.

Grunim

GoatKnuckle wrote: »

Moonglum83 wrote: »

Granted, there are loads of things in both that are good and bad. ESO just feels more mature, more serious.

ESO has never struck me a serious or mature endeavor in terms of its artistic tone or storytelling. Does Archage have you save a band of Teletubbies from from the dastardly depths of pop-culture references or something?

This felt close enough to a Teletubbies moment for me. I'm trying out AA this summer and in one of the factions to get a mount, I need to hatch it from an egg, water it and it grows. It's a very cutesy looking mount and I couldn't stop laughing once someone nearby exclaimed, "Hey these are Chia Pets!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tzY7qQFij_M


Ch...ch....ch....chia!

Arsenic_Touch

Can't wait until people go crazy over Trion having their meat hooks in the cash store. They've already had some terrible design choices implemented and I expect them to become more grindy and more pay to win as the game continues. Even though they're responsible for localizing and not developing the game, they have a lot of control over how it's going to be in western markets and you can already see the failures of Rift and Defiance coming out in the game.

Caspur

I downloaded AA yesterday. When it was finished I got stuck in a queue that was two hours long and when I had about 20 minutes left to get in I got disconnected. I got right into the game this morning and the chat was filled with nothing but, gold spammers and idiotic talk. The game seems good but, the execution is bad.