Your Rig (please, no [snip] jokes)

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Since my PC is in the shop and I don’t have much to do until it returns (except browsed the forums), I thought I’d start a thread about our rigs. I hear a lot of gamers complaining about lag time and FPS issues with ESO (oh, and yes, I PVP). So, if you are having such issues, what is your rig? Mine is four year’s old (and nothing special compared to newer systems) and has never crashed (even in beta), and only experienced a slight degradation to FPS in the latest patch (which vanished after 24 hrs.).

My rig:
Chip: Intel Core i7 980X 3.33GHz (Six Core – overclocked 4.2 GHz )
Board: ASUS Rampage III Extreme (Intel X58 Chipset)
Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz
Original video: 2x SLI Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB
Upgraded Video: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB
Cooling: Liquid - Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI

I'm sure this thread can be constructive, or you can bash me (or flame, or whatever you kids call it these days).

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Yours:

RedMiniStapler

never mind my laptop's spec, i'm more interested in your ID, how did you come up with it?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Digital Storm

Well, let's just say I'm a anime and manga fan (otaku).

ers101284b14_ESO

I build my own.

ASRock Xtreme 4
I5 3570k (Not Overclocked)
16gb ram
Radeon hD 7870
10 fans......(Because I can. That is literally the only reason)

Armianlee

I build my own.

Last time I made one of these they closed it, because it had nothing to do with ESO. Let's hope the mods play nice this time and allow it.

Main system:
Intel i7 4770k @ 4.2Ghz, 8Threads, 4.6Ghz 8Threads and 5.2Ghz 2 Threads (depending on which overclocking I run)
MSI MPower MAX AC Motherboard
Dual ASUS R9 290X DC2 OC
16GB GSkill Ripjaws 2133Mhz RAM
Corsair Air 540 HAF Case
Corsair H110 Cooling
Kingston HyperX SSD for Boot, Kingston V300 128 and 250GB SSD for games, various other 7200RPM drives for other games, movies etc.
Corsair TX1050 PSU
Logitech G19S Keyboard
Genius GX Gila Gaming Mouse
3X AOC 24" IPS panels

Secondary:
AMD FX 8350 @ 4.8Ghz and 5Ghz
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 Motherboard
Gigabyte R9 290
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz RAM
Antec DF-85 Case
Corsair H100i Cooling
Corsair TX850 PSU
Kingston HyperX SSD for Boot and 1TB Seagate 7200RPM
Logitech G510
Dimeter Gaming mouse
Acer X233W Panel

Laptop:
MSI GX 70
AMD A10 5750M
AMD 8970M
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz RAM
Kingston HyperX 128GB Boot 1TB Seagate SSHD
Steelseries Keyboard
Dimeter Gaming mouse
17" Screen

RedMiniStapler

Armianlee wrote: »

Last time I made one of these they closed it, because it had nothing to do with ESO. Let's hope the mods play nice this time and allow it.

well... your picture include a molag bal statue, hopefully that's "ESO subject" enough.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Digital Storm

I need a new job...

j4k3s7a

Alienware X51 (cuz im too lazy to build my own, but I could if i wanted)
Nvidia GTX 660
Intel i7 4 core @ 3.40 ghz
1 5 tb HDD
16GB Ram
Similar (but not same) desktop.

I got it over 2 years ago, and it still runs great

Edit: I'd include my Molag Bal like above, but it's a horrible mess

Armianlee

I build my own.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

ASRock Xtreme 4
I5 3570k (Not Overclocked)
16gb ram
Radeon hD 7870
10 fans......(Because I can. That is literally the only reason)

And the only reason you need, good sir.

Armianlee

I build my own.

cgipervert wrote: »

Since my PC is in the shop and I don’t have much to do until it returns (except browsed the forums), I thought I’d start a thread about our rigs. I hear a lot of gamers complaining about lag time and FPS issues with ESO (oh, and yes, I PVP). So, if you are having such issues, what is your rig? Mine is four year’s old (and nothing special compared to newer systems) and has never crashed (even in beta), and only experienced a slight degradation to FPS in the latest patch (which vanished after 24 hrs.).

Aside from framedrops as of late, I do not really think there is a major problem. Just people with high end rigs pissed that 60% of our power is being ignored due to poor choices when it came to coding the games core usage. 30FPS is playable, and if people are playing in PVP a lot and run lower, killing shadows and view distance should free up CPU cycles to feed their card. Personally I think a lot of it is complaining just for the sake of it. On the other hand... MULTICORE SUPPORT ZOS!!!

AshySamurai

I build my own.

MULTICORE SUPPORT ZOS!!!

Really? It's hard to imagine to me that ESO runs only on one core. I tried to run game only on physical cores, and that was terrible.
I run game on Xeon X3450, GeFrorce 550Ti, 4Gb Ram (yep, I know). Seems pretty lame if you compare to what others have, but my system is old and still works fine on medium-custom (little freezes on ultra).

Doc_Baconb14_ESO

ibuypower

Literally bought an ibuypower yesterday, should arrive soon. It was one of those "pick the parts and we'll build it" things, and it was a pretty damn good deal too. Has an i7 4.0Ghz processor, a nvidia 760x 2gb graphics card, 16gb memory, terabyte hardrive, liquid cooling, and, yeah I think thats about it.

This will be an upgrade from my laptop with an intel 2.20 Ghz with like, a graphics card with 64mb of dedicated video ram.


So, basically, I am going from "can barely run the game at all low settings" to, "be able to run the game at all high and perform better than it does currently".


I am pretty excited.

Armianlee

I build my own.

AshySamurai wrote: »

MULTICORE SUPPORT ZOS!!!

Really? It's hard to imagine to me that ESO runs only on one core. I tried to run game only on physical cores, and that was terrible.
I run game on Xeon X3450, GeFrorce 550Ti, 4Gb Ram (yep, I know). Seems pretty lame if you compare to what others have, but my system is old and still works fine on medium-custom (little freezes on ultra).

You and I both. I cannot imagine what was going through their, or any other developer releasing games past 2010, minds when they thought it was a good idea. Honestly most people have a dual core at the very least by now.

Garetth

I build my own.

cgipervert wrote: »

Since my PC is in the shop and I don’t have much to do until it returns (except browsed the forums), I thought I’d start a thread about our rigs. I hear a lot of gamers complaining about lag time and FPS issues with ESO (oh, and yes, I PVP). So, if you are having such issues, what is your rig? Mine is four year’s old (and nothing special compared to newer systems) and has never crashed (even in beta), and only experienced a slight degradation to FPS in the latest patch (which vanished after 24 hrs.).

My rig:
Chip: Intel Core i7 980X 3.33GHz (Six Core – overclocked 4.2 GHz )
Board: ASUS Rampage III Extreme (Intel X58 Chipset)
Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz
Original video: 2x SLI Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB
Upgraded Video: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB
Cooling: Liquid - Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI

I'm sure this thread can be constructive, or you can bash me (or flame, or whatever you kids call it these days).

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Yours:

Chip: i7-3770K 3.5 GHz
Board: Gigabyte G1.SNIPER
Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MZ GSkill Ripjaws
Video: GTX Geforce 680 4GB
Power: Antec 1000W
SSD 500GB Samsung HD
Western Digital 2TB Velocirapto 10k/64
Liquid cooling, etc.

No issues running game.

Attorneyatlawl

I build my own.

Chip: Intel Core i7 2600K quad-core w/ hyperthreading @ 4.4ghz
Board: MSI Z68 GD65-G3 motherboard
Memory: 16gb ddr3 (2x 8gb sticks) @ 1866mhz Cas 9
Original video: 2x NVidia GTX 870 video cards in SLI (once they launch, temporarily on a 750ti hehe using low subsampling until then, had a 780 I sold already)
Cooling: Corsair H75 closed liquid loop on cpu
SSD: 256gb sandisk extreme
Monitor: Dell UP2414Q 4k 60hz 3840x2160 display s-ips panel
OS: Windows 8.1 Update 1


So beautiful in action with LOAD_LEVELS -3 in this game...

Minimum fps in cyrodiil even in the biggest zergs normally never goes below 30 where I am CPU bottlenecked (high cpu usage, low gpu usage). When running around in PVE land it always has no problems and is gpu bottlenecked, when I had my 780 it would hold 45-50fps constantly but it would dip to 40 in heavy action in pve @ full 4k res. That's why I sold the 780 to get sli 870's once they hit and will presumably have 60+ fps full-time at that point maxed out with levels -3, except in cyrodiil zergs where the cpu will still limit me @ 4k even .

tplink3r1

I build my own.

CPU:i5 4690k @4.5ghz(h100i)
MB:asus sabertooth z97 mark 1
Memory:2x4gb corsair dominator platinum 2133mhz cas9
PSU:EVGA supernova 750W
Case: corsair 760t white
my video card recently died, wont be getting a new one until nvidia releases the gtx 880.

Daethz

I build my own.

CPU: i5 3570k
MB: ASUS Z77-LK
Memory: 8gb G.Skill 1600mhz 7 Latency
Video: Gigabyte WindforceX3 770GTX 4gb Overclocked Edition, I believe it generally hovers at 1267mhz?
Power: Corsair 750w Modular
SSD: Crucial m4 256gb
HDD: Caviar black i think? Shrug, 1gb, all i need, for now.
Fans: 200mmX1, 120mmX3. Stock CPU fan and three fans on my GPU.

OS: Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit, will likely adopt W9 early too, if its not completely terrible, in my mind windows 8.0 wasent completely terrible, so...

Motherboard and SSD firmwares updated.

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And I still drop to ~30fps in Cyrodil.
GPU used to under-clock ESO alot, especially in places like Alakir Desert, since patch idk, 1.1-1.2 it seems to stay at max clock everywhere at all times, also dipping below 60fps more often, it seems.

Micallef

I build my own.

Asus Z87-A
i7 4771
16GB Kingston RAM
Asus GTX660ti on 27" Samsung main display
MSI GTX560ti Hawk on 24" HP secondary display (nothing on the market right now that tempts me to upgrade GPU)
2x WDC Caviar black 1tb, one for system and one for games.
WDC Caviar green 1.5tb for backups.
Asus Xonar D2X, output to Roccat Kave 5.1 headphones
1200W Power Supply (forgot the brand, been serving faithfully for the past 6 years)
Logitech G700 gaming mouse.

raglau

I build my own.

Armianlee wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

MULTICORE SUPPORT ZOS!!!

Really? It's hard to imagine to me that ESO runs only on one core. I tried to run game only on physical cores, and that was terrible.
I run game on Xeon X3450, GeFrorce 550Ti, 4Gb Ram (yep, I know). Seems pretty lame if you compare to what others have, but my system is old and still works fine on medium-custom (little freezes on ultra).

You and I both. I cannot imagine what was going through their, or any other developer releasing games past 2010, minds when they thought it was a good idea. Honestly most people have a dual core at the very least by now.

It does run on all cores - ESO spawns about 34 or more threads - but only one main thread does any meaningful work. I analysed the game quite deeply when it was released as I was surprised by the weak performance. Basically these other threads end up waiting for this main thread, so it may as well be single-threaded, in a sense!

It is very surprising and it seems possible to me that the game started being developed on dual core machines. In that scenario what would happen is this main thread would run on say Core 0 and then the other 35 ESO threads, plus lots of other key OS activity, would be scheduled on Core 1. This would most likely result in two busy, load-balanced cores. But of course the world has moved on and ESO was out of date in this way as soon as it was released.

It's a lot of work to change it, so I am not sure we'll see it ever happen.

staxjax

I build my own.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/469mNG

cuz_mike200

My PC is new but has bad graphics in ESO and so many crashes.

Attorneyatlawl

I build my own.

squicker wrote: »

Armianlee wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

MULTICORE SUPPORT ZOS!!!

Really? It's hard to imagine to me that ESO runs only on one core. I tried to run game only on physical cores, and that was terrible.
I run game on Xeon X3450, GeFrorce 550Ti, 4Gb Ram (yep, I know). Seems pretty lame if you compare to what others have, but my system is old and still works fine on medium-custom (little freezes on ultra).

You and I both. I cannot imagine what was going through their, or any other developer releasing games past 2010, minds when they thought it was a good idea. Honestly most people have a dual core at the very least by now.

It does run on all cores - ESO spawns about 34 or more threads - but only one main thread does any meaningful work. I analysed the game quite deeply when it was released as I was surprised by the weak performance. Basically these other threads end up waiting for this main thread, so it may as well be single-threaded, in a sense!

It is very surprising and it seems possible to me that the game started being developed on dual core machines. In that scenario what would happen is this main thread would run on say Core 0 and then the other 35 ESO threads, plus lots of other key OS activity, would be scheduled on Core 1. This would most likely result in two busy, load-balanced cores. But of course the world has moved on and ESO was out of date in this way as soon as it was released.

It's a lot of work to change it, so I am not sure we'll see it ever happen.

Speaking as a programmer, games can't be multithreaded in many cases, too well... the work is often very non-parallelizable particularly for MMO titles unfortunately across the board due to the workloads involved. Generally for these kinds of systems the behavior on the end user's computer ends up being what you describe, where the secondary threads have to wait for the main one to catch up in a lot of gameplay situations. This results in them only being able to do so much to alleviate that, and trust me, they do try.

Anecdotally and from a non-coder's perspective, you can look at prior games with large pvp, and you'll see the same trend... even many smaller-population MMO's and games in general, in a lot of cases they are bound on one main core load, with a lot of other threads on the various available cores resulting in some speedup but not as much as we would ideally be able to obtain.

This is unfortunately an inherent issue in system design for this sphere.

Syntse

I build my own.

ASUS Maximus VI impact, LGA 1150, Intel Z87, DDR3, mITX
Intel i5-4670K 3.4GHz (NH-U12S cooler)
ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 DirectCU II 3GB
Kingston HyperX 2 x 4GB, DDR3 1600MHz
Samsung 120GB 840 Evo Series SSD 2.5", SATA III
Samsung 500GB 840 Evo Series SSD 2.5", SATA III
Windows 8.1, 64-bit
Packed into Prodigy Arctic White, Mini-ITX case
ASUS 23.6" VE247H LED, Full HD, 2ms

Tavore1138

I build my own.

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
Intel i7 3930k
Noctua Heatsink
32GB Corsair Dominator GT
Asus nVidia 780Ti 3GB
Corsair AX1200 Power
WD Velociraptor HD plus a couple of Caviar Black 4TBs for data & backups
S.T.R.I.K.E.7 Keyboard & Naga Hex mouse
ASUS 27" Asus VE278Q

raglau

I build my own.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Speaking as a programmer, games can't be multithreaded in many cases, too well... the work is often very non-parallelizable particularly for MMO titles unfortunately across the board due to the workloads involved..

Thank you, I did wonder about this. I am not a programmer but am a solution and infrastructure architect so was aware there could well be architectural constraints in games that do not exist in the type of business solutions I am used to delivering. It is notable for example, that Rift behaves in a near identical way to ESO.

As another view, I am in the beta for Elite Dangerous and their game is highly multithreaded and seems to parallelise very well. It uses all cores equally, even hyper-threading helps it along (sometimes can be a hindrance), and the net result on a Core i7 like mine, is a total CPU consumption of about 30%, with all bells and whistles on. ED is merely an MMO in space, so it gives me some hope that the type of issues you describe may be solvable in at least some cases.

Pele

Other

ASUS Republic of Gamers G750JZ-XS72

2.4 GHz Intel Core i7-4700HQ (Haswell)
32GB of DDR3L RAM
1TB 7200 rpm HDD + 512GB SSD (2 x 256GB)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M GPU (4GB)

KhajitFurTrader

Other

Intel Core i7-4770K, 3.5 GHz (4c/8t)
24 GB DDR3-1666 RAM
500 GB PCI-SSD
nVidia GeForce GTX 780M, 4 GB GDDR5 RAM
27" IPS display, 2560x1440
Aluminum case

219 W max. consumption, barely audible. :P

Oh, forgot to say: late 2013 iMac ^_^

Stranglehands

Other

Late 2012 iMac. I'm a Mac gamer

2.9GHz Core i5
8GB DDR3 RAM
1TB fusion drive (that's a 1TB hard drive and a 256GB SSD in a tiered storage system)
GeForce GTX 680MX (2GB VRAM)
27 inch 2560x1440 LED display
Don't got to boot into Windows to play ESO which is a distinct advantage vs. Morrowind and Skyrim

AshySamurai

I build my own.

@Attorneyatlawl‌ Look at PC Minimum System Requirements

Processor: Dual Core 2.0GHz or equivalent processor

So it supposed to work on dual core or more.

And I totally agree with you that make two or more cores work equally on one task is a really hard task for MMO's (and not only for MMO's). But I noticed that ESO effectivly uses multithreading. I have 4 cores, so with virtual cores I have 8 totally. Few times I tried to run only on physical, and I feel a very big difference. So I'd say that ESO more or less effectivly use all cores.

raglau

I build my own.

AshySamurai wrote: »

I have 4 cores, so with virtual cores I have 8 totally. Few times I tried to run only on physical, and I feel a very big difference. So I'd say that ESO more or less effectivly use all cores.

It does use all cores, most definitely, but it saturates only one. It would be nice if the thread that saturates this single core could be sub-divided into further threads that could therefore be executed on other cores. But AttorneyatLawl states this is tricky to do for an MMO.

Perhaps because of the rather event driven nature of such a game, meaning a key thread is always awaiting input\events etc., before driving the other 34 or so threads to execute.

odiasuda

What's the point of this?