Do you think mounted combat should be added to the game?

MAOofDC

Mounted combat was in the game Skyrim. So it should be a fairly easily implemented addition to Elder Scrolls Online.

Elad13

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

No...because they mess up everything else...why put in something more for them to screw up????

Ashur_Breakblade

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

Elad13 wrote: »

No...because they mess up everything else...why put in something more for them to screw up????

Agreed, there is no way that will go well

lathbury

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

Yes but way down the line when they have sorted current issues.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

@Ashur_Breakblade and @Elad13 Based on your comments shouldn't you both be a maybe? You never know this might be the one time(your opinion not mine) they get it right the first time.

phaneub17_ESO

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

I would be for mounted combat if this game didn't use auto-targeting, not everything follows the crosshairs and you can hit things without making the effort to aim for some attacks.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I would be for mounted combat if this game didn't use auto-targeting, not everything follows the crosshairs and you can hit things without making the effort to aim for some attacks.

The way it worked in Skyrim you attacked enemies on your sides as you swung your weapon in a X pattern.

I'll give a bit of sage advice the best way to defeat a man on horseback is to kill his horse. So in game terms players who gave their horse a big Stam boost for the graphic of horse barding it would in effect make that armor "real".

RedMiniStapler

.... like jousting?

Aenra

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

no,i want to play my mage, not a horse riding character with skills by necessity altered because..riding skills

same concept as vehicle combat, or full transformation phases of my character where looting/fighting is required.

i came, payed and will continue to pay to play ---as--- my character

have we not have had enough of the type of games that do this?
for that matter, 80% of your polls ask for damn thing those 'other' games do

NO. Let us attempt for some diffrentiation. Please.

Armianlee

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

I said yes... but should have clicked Maybe. It all depends on HOW they do it. I would love to gallop up behind something and knock it senseless.

fried_funk

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

Mounted combat has been so much of a FAIL in LOTRO, I strongly suggest to leave that mess alone....it really added very little to the game while distracting dev resources to serious stuff like endgame content.

Electric Feel

Jousting lanes would be perfect, picture classic Elder scrolls view where you stare down the lane ahead of you, the head of you horse bobbing up and down as you control the speed with deftly placed kicks or rein slaps whatever you like, the faster you go the more power your lance will hit with but the less stable your aiming will become, as you enter the last 20 yards you are prompted to lower you lance and which point red target reticles pop up on the approaching enemy, place your bets now, gain fame and fortune, class skills are irrelevant its just you, 180 feet, and a trusty steed (bred specifically for this increased, speed, mount stability, or steadiness ). It wouldn't take much to make this happen and as a new way to win armor, weapons, gold and fame?? How can this not be in the game already?

KhajitFurTrader

Maybe, it depends on how it is implemented.

Very bad memories rise up when thinking about the problematic implementation of mounted combat (MC) in LOTRO.

• Variable mount speeds, plus pushing the fastest riding speed to the upper limits the message passing between client and server could handle, led to various inherent, unfixable desychronization issues. Riding a war horse, slingshotting and rubberbanding across the landscape were the norm, not the exception.
• The new and exclusive to MC skill sets the classes had to use made them all but unrecognisable. Players felt estranged to the classes and roles they've played for years when sitting on a war horse.

I neither need nor want any of this in ESO.

Additionally, the costs to design and implement any new system need to be justified. While MC certainly would add an interesting level to combat in PvP, what about the rest of the world? Should MC only be allowed in Cyrodiil? If not, how would MC impact and influence the PvE experience of players? MC would need to be carefully balanced against conventional fighting, or else players would feel (and clamour, to be sure) being forced to use it.

MC in LOTRO was restricted to certain areas only (Rohan, lands of the horse lords) for a reason. The wide, open landscape, which was designed specifically with MC in mind, certainly was one reason among others for things being this way and not another.

Edit: fixed/clarified acronym.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

In continuation of the discussion, I have a question for the people who voted maybe. What sort of implementation would sway you to a yes or a no?

Nestor

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

Have you tried to fine control your horse? Moved them into the exact position you wanted them to be in? Got them to stop on the spot you wanted them to? (they seem to walk forward a step or two like the PCs slide a bit after coming to a stop)

Combat on a mount would not be that successful in this game.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

Nestor wrote: »

Have you tried to fine control your horse? Moved them into the exact position you wanted them to be in? Got them to stop on the spot you wanted them to? (they seem to walk forward a step or two like the PCs slide a bit after coming to a stop)

Combat on a mount would not be that successful in this game.

It was always best to keep your horse moving in combat. Why? You may ask, because the best way to deal with mounted troops is to force them to dismount. Either by pulling them off the horse easy to do if your are standing still OR kill the horse. Is this harsh treatment for an animal that had no choice in going to war? Yes but that is the nature of open warfare.

When the stirrups were invented the tactics developed were, charge, wheel, and charge again. A tactic that didn't change until the US Civil War when Calvary units rode horse to battle then dismounted to shoot.

Nestor

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

And that makes combat on a horse in this game even more of a chore to keep it moving in the usable pattern. Besides, we are dismounted as soon as we are attacked, so the best we could do is maybe get the first shot in.

If you want to try it, load up Skyrim, it has mounted combat. I tried it once.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

Nestor wrote: »

And that makes combat on a horse in this game even more of a chore to keep it moving in the usable pattern. Besides, we are dismounted as soon as we are attacked, so the best we could do is maybe get the first shot in.

It would mean you need a new horse with a high Stam stat, a warhorse if you will. Hell anyone who has a horse with a high stam stat gets barding graphics added to their horse.

Fruitmass

Maybe, it depends on how it is implemented.

Maybe if I was allowed shoot somebody's horse out from under them or run over some mini pets .

But in all seriousness, I hated the horses in Skyrim. I only used one if I had to haul ten tons of junk from one house to the other. Even then I only used Arvak cause I could summon and dismiss it at will.

Trying to fight and control the horse all while not getting it killed was near impossible.

In a lot of ways not much has changed when it comes to mounts here in ESO. I don't use the horse except for the extra storage and it moves like a drunk duck.

Still, I might be willing to give it a chance if they could at least improve targeting.

Auric_ESO

MAOofDC wrote: »

Mounted combat was in the game Skyrim. So it should be a fairly easily implemented addition to Elder Scrolls Online.

Because it was in a game once somewhere it should be fairly easily implemented to eso. Think about that for a while. Hopefully you will understand why it's a very silly statement. And no. It has nothing to do with dev incompetence. I actually think they are pretty good

lestaudenmaierub17_ESO

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

They added mounted combat into the Lord of the Rings Online. It was a terrible lag fest that completely ruined the entire region of Rohan for me.

I'd rather not go through that again.

Antirob

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

Yeah add it and also add polearms to counter them.

Haqikah

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

I voted for No, because the game has so many better options for the devs to put their effort in (I'll refrain from going into detail on that) I'd rather not see that effort wasted in bringing completely new systems in the game.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

Auric_ESO wrote: »

MAOofDC wrote: »

Mounted combat was in the game Skyrim. So it should be a fairly easily implemented addition to Elder Scrolls Online.

Because it was in a game once somewhere it should be fairly easily implemented to eso. Think about that for a while. Hopefully you will understand why it's a very silly statement. And no. It has nothing to do with dev incompetence. I actually think they are pretty good

I would lay odds that Bethesda has reused coding from Skyrim in this game. Why reinvent the wheel everytime you make a game.

kieso

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

probably want to flesh out regular combat first...

Vis

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

Lotro tried it and it became an another grind mechanic that hurt balance and deepened the p2w model.

Vis

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

lestaudenmaierub17_ESO wrote: »

They added mounted combat into the Lord of the Rings Online. It was a terrible lag fest that completely ruined the entire region of Rohan for me.

I'd rather not go through that again.

^

bosmern_ESO

MAOofDC wrote: »

Mounted combat was in the game Skyrim. So it should be a fairly easily implemented addition to Elder Scrolls Online.

Before we talk about mounted combat, can we talk about Racial mounts/more mounts?

I'd love to see rare horses/mounts achieved from a rare boss drop or achievement.

MAOofDC

Yes, it would add a whole new level of play especially in Cyrodiil.

I just want to let everyone know the reason I started this thread. It stemmed from a conversation a few members of the ESO Facebook group had.

Auric_ESO

MAOofDC wrote: »

Auric_ESO wrote: »

MAOofDC wrote: »

Mounted combat was in the game Skyrim. So it should be a fairly easily implemented addition to Elder Scrolls Online.

Because it was in a game once somewhere it should be fairly easily implemented to eso. Think about that for a while. Hopefully you will understand why it's a very silly statement. And no. It has nothing to do with dev incompetence. I actually think they are pretty good

I would lay odds that Bethesda has reused coding from Skyrim in this game. Why reinvent the wheel everytime you make a game.

Because code is not always portable between engines. I used to help beta test an indie game called mount and blade and that was an engine designed for mounts. It's a huge task adding some things in. Things like ears or tails can be nightmares of patches and workaround to prevent a lot of clipping. And MMO players are some of the pickiest gamers around

ExiledKhallisi

No, mounted combat has no place in Elder Scrolls Online.

Mounted combat looks and feels like crap in every game ever made.