Can someone please explain why....

Hostel_Striker

There's a mundus stone effect for magic and health regeneration but not one for stamina regeneration?

Also why heavy armor rating is so easily overcharged when wearing full heavy armor? I wear blue/purple quality and my armor is already overcharged.

As a melee heavy armor wearer I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage.

Chuggernaut

The raising of the caps post 1.3.3 was a huge help, but I've been complaining about heavy armor and the cap since beta (back when I was still sword and board).

Potenza

•The Lover: Reduces damage taken from spells
•The Thief: Increases critical chance
•The Mage: Increases maximum magicka
•The Warrior: Increases power
•The Serpent: Increases non-combat health regeneration
•The Apprentice: Increases spell penetration
•The Atronach: Increases magicka regeneration
•The Lady: Increases armor
•The Ritual: Increases healing effectiveness
•The Shadow: Increases critical strike damage
•The Steed: Increases run speed
•The Lord: Increases maximum health
•The Tower: Increases maximum stamina

Yep no stamina regen. Hmm...probly a reason for that.

Potenza

And about the heavy armor. Yes easily softcapped....I found no point in upgrading it to no higher than blue. Greens usually suffice.
The discussion has been around about raising the softcap on the HA.

Hostel_Striker

Something needs done about this I'm tired of getting my butt kicked with such a low cap for heavy armor.

SFBryan18

Hostel_Striker wrote: »

There's a mundus stone effect for magic and health regeneration but not one for stamina regeneration?

Also why heavy armor rating is so easily overcharged when wearing full heavy armor? I wear blue/purple quality and my armor is already overcharged.

As a melee heavy armor wearer I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage.

Not sure about the mundus stone, but I believe heavy armor reaches the soft cap faster because they don't want it to be too strong. Not sure how this gives you a disadvantage since you won't have any less armor than other players.

Can someone explain to me what the trade would be for giving heavy armor more protection? I know in Skyrim it made you incredibly slow. What is the trade in this game?

Haqikah

Hostel_Striker wrote: »

Something needs done about this I'm tired of getting my butt kicked with such a low cap for heavy armor.

Are you certain that due to physical damage?
I got the feeling most damage one receives is magic, making magic resistance much more useful than a high armor rating.

ThisOnePosts

You do realize you aren't going to hit the hard cap just from wearing a set of heavy armor that's purple? You will be over the soft cap for sure. But there is still a nice gain to be made between the soft cap and hard cap. You can essentially mitigate 50% of all damage in the game if you do it right. You also don't need a full set of heavy or light to do so (talking about armor/spell resist ratings).

Attorneyatlawl

Chuggernaut wrote: »

The raising of the caps post 1.3.3 was a huge help, but I've been complaining about heavy armor and the cap since beta (back when I was still sword and board).

Softcaps are not where the stats end their effectiveness. In fact for armor it's in the 33-35% range at softcap, and doesn't actually hardcap until 50% mitigation .

The idea of overcharging aka softcaps is to prevent easily obtaining extreme values on many stats, causing you to have to specialize more to do so.

MorHawk

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

<list of mundus stone effects>

Yep no stamina regen. Hmm...probly a reason for that.

For the record, the health regen only works out of combat, so has very limited usefulness. That said, if there's one for magicka, there should indeed be one for stamina.

Stx

There also should be a stone that increases armor penetration, since there is a stone that increases spell penetration...

theyancey

Can someone please explain why.... people do not make thread titles descriptive?

Rastoric

MorHawk wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

<list of mundus stone effects>

Yep no stamina regen. Hmm...probly a reason for that.

For the record, the health regen only works out of combat, so has very limited usefulness. That said, if there's one for magicka, there should indeed be one for stamina.

Can't you spec for more stamina from the horse? Not everything is or needs to be in perfect sync.

AlexDougherty

monsterblitz wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

<list of mundus stone effects>

Yep no stamina regen. Hmm...probly a reason for that.

For the record, the health regen only works out of combat, so has very limited usefulness. That said, if there's one for magicka, there should indeed be one for stamina.

Can't you spec for more stamina from the horse? Not everything is or needs to be in perfect sync.

Horse Mundus Stones??

KhajitFurTrader

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Horse Mundus Stones??

It's the Steed, isn't it? :P

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Hostel_Striker wrote: »

There's a mundus stone effect for magic and health regeneration but not one for stamina regeneration?

Also why heavy armor rating is so easily overcharged when wearing full heavy armor? I wear blue/purple quality and my armor is already overcharged.

As a melee heavy armor wearer I feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage.

Not sure about the mundus stone, but I believe heavy armor reaches the soft cap faster because they don't want it to be too strong. Not sure how this gives you a disadvantage since you won't have any less armor than other players.

Can someone explain to me what the trade would be for giving heavy armor more protection? I know in Skyrim it made you incredibly slow. What is the trade in this game?

umm why would their need to be a trade. It's not like that would be OP or anything.

Siliconhobbit_ESO

The stamina you get from feeding your horse is not character stat related. That stamina helps prevent you from being thrown from your horse while riding when you take damage.

AlexDougherty

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Horse Mundus Stones??

It's the Steed, isn't it? :P

I'll give you that one o.O

Rastoric

Siliconhobbit_ESO wrote: »

The stamina you get from feeding your horse is not character stat related. That stamina helps prevent you from being thrown from your horse while riding when you take damage.

Thanks. I always assumed it did have an effect on my stamina pool... stupid mage here :P

Hostel_Striker

So heavy armor wearers just have to deal with a soft cap wearing full blue items and you don't see a disadvantage to that?

Hostel_Striker

Stx wrote: »

There also should be a stone that increases armor penetration, since there is a stone that increases spell penetration...

Advantage to spell casters over melee

Hostel_Striker

I know it doesn't end but it becomes increasingly harder to raise. My question is why am I hitting a soft cap wearing blue/purple? Are light and medium armors hitting a cap with blue/purple? There's supposed to be an advantage to wearing heavy armor over the others.... take more damage. The disadvantage would be moving slower. I'm not taking more damage hitting the cap so easily allowing light and medium a chance to catch up.

Merlin13KAGL

AlexDougherty wrote: »

monsterblitz wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

<list of mundus stone effects>

Yep no stamina regen. Hmm...probly a reason for that.

For the record, the health regen only works out of combat, so has very limited usefulness. That said, if there's one for magicka, there should indeed be one for stamina.

Can't you spec for more stamina from the horse? Not everything is or needs to be in perfect sync.

Horse Mundus Stones??

@AlexDougherty‌, sounds like something you need to go to the Vet for.

MorHawk

monsterblitz wrote: »

MorHawk wrote: »

For the record, the health regen only works out of combat, so has very limited usefulness. That said, if there's one for magicka, there should indeed be one for stamina.

Can't you spec for more stamina from the horse? Not everything is or needs to be in perfect sync.

Umm, you mean this one?
•The Steed: Increases run speed

Or do you possibly mean increasing your personal horse's stamina? Neither will increase regen there. And no, unlike those who are crying for a fourth resource bar in the name of balance, I am not suggesting total homogeneity. I do however expect that when multiple options are presented, that there should be sufficient alternatives that are viable for each person's build. Stamina users are kinda left hanging with this set up.

istateres

Anyone know if The Lord bonus is the same as the The Mage? In other words, regardless of your level do you get the same amount (X Health or Magica), or does the Lord give more??

Nestor

monsterblitz wrote: »

Thanks. I always assumed it did have an effect on my stamina pool... stupid mage here :P

Interestingly, the Stamina Regen on your horse is dependent on your characters Stamina Regen Rate.

MorHawk

istateres wrote: »

Anyone know if The Lord bonus is the same as the The Mage? In other words, regardless of your level do you get the same amount (X Health or Magica), or does the Lord give more??

I saw someone confirm that these were the same at launch. No reason to think it's changed. Of course, you could always look here: http://www.esouniverse.com/guides/mundus-stones/
For a list of locations, and go test it yourself. Cyrodiil has a complete set, so as long as you're level 10 and can press the sneak button, you're good to go.