Thornblade EU - due to exploiters and cheaters, EP gained a massive lead

Maulkin

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Instead of naming and shaming on the forums, which isn't allowed, report supposed exploiters to ZOS using the in-game report function. ZOS has stated that if you feel that people are exploiting the damage scaling bugs, you should report them, so ZOS can see what action has to be taken, if any.

Thanks for the pro tip, Captain Obvious. Like all the posts above say, we've reported him.... multiple times.

Greif

I think we have all the same point.. report them ! and we all dont like it.. but it was one guy and a whole faction dont loose campaign because of one guy.. i think this is also clear.

the thread vs exploiting is good... the think behind it ( to say ep wins because of one exploiting guy ) is a big shame for AD... i think the most ppl laugh at this [snip] blabla


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KBKB

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-Bird wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

the Purple Alliance

And everyone just wrote you off as a paranoid ***.

you really don't know whats going on with some people in red and blue do you.

Factions don't team up. It seems that way at times but it is not the case.

Turelus

I didn't realise staying up until 4am every morning was exploiting, maybe I should stop. :P

Bushrat

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

Turelus

If there a specific people exploiting, report them.
However most of the people taking scrolls are the late night players like myself so please don't penalise everyone in our factions because some people use exploits, I will report any doing it myself because I want a fun and fair game.

DuelWieldingCheesyPoofs

Yeah we winning, u mad cos we held all scrolls alday and Dc and Ad couldn't get them even when both teams on us hahaha we worked as a team

Aprodite

Greif wrote: »

I think we have all the same point.. report them ! and we all dont like it.. but it was one guy and a whole faction dont loose campaign because of one guy.. i think this is also clear.

the thread vs exploiting is good... the think behind it ( to say ep wins because of one exploiting guy ) is a big shame for AD... i think the most ppl laugh at this p.ssy blabla

I have report you, Have a nice day! :-)

Orchish

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

You need to open your eyes, red and blue never fight each other? Are you sure you are not playing on NA ? Because DC have been fighting EP non stop on Thornblade.

Just like your claims that we had an alliance on AB were ridiculous. On AB, AD night capped and the result was every morning EP and DC smashing AD back to their gates.

It's been the same on Thornblade except now it's EP night capping and no matter how much we pushed today EP just defend so much better than AD did.

Before they took the lead and all the scrolls, people on DC were convinced AD and EP were tag teaming us, as for 3 days straight we had EP at Aleswell and Glade with AD coming from ASH attacking Rayles.

So when i see people claim that we are allied i seriously laugh.

KBKB

Orchish wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

You need to open your eyes, red and blue never fight each other? Are you sure you are not playing on NA ? Because DC have been fighting EP non stop on Thornblade.

Just like your claims that we had an alliance on AB were ridiculous. On AB, AD night capped and the result was every morning EP and DC smashing AD back to their gates.

It's been the same on Thornblade except now it's EP night capping and no matter how much we pushed today EP just defend so much better than AD did.

Before they took the lead and all the scrolls, people on DC were convinced AD and EP were tag teaming us, as for 3 days straight we had EP at Aleswell and Glade with AD coming from ASH attacking Rayles.

So when i see people claim that we are allied i seriously laugh.

Thank you.

@brianb16_ESO29‌

less pot and you won't be so para brew!

Bushrat

Black-Bird wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

You need to open your eyes, red and blue never fight each other? Are you sure you are not playing on NA ? Because DC have been fighting EP non stop on Thornblade.

Just like your claims that we had an alliance on AB were ridiculous. On AB, AD night capped and the result was every morning EP and DC smashing AD back to their gates.

It's been the same on Thornblade except now it's EP night capping and no matter how much we pushed today EP just defend so much better than AD did.

Before they took the lead and all the scrolls, people on DC were convinced AD and EP were tag teaming us, as for 3 days straight we had EP at Aleswell and Glade with AD coming from ASH attacking Rayles.

So when i see people claim that we are allied i seriously laugh.

Thank you.

@brianb16_ESO29‌

less pot and you won't be so para brew!

So, if people don't agree with you they are a paranoid pot smoker? Hmmmm, not very sound logic really. I have seen the evidence myself of some players collaborating with the enemy to fight against AD. You can believe what you want but the truth is that SOME jerk players want to win at any cost, I am sure there are some AD players that may use exploits or even try to collaborate with the enemy to win against 3rd enemy. It is entirely possible. But let the facts speak for themselves not be discarded because you don't like the message. If I ever see any player on any faction including AD I would report them, I like fair play, not cheaters.. I do think there for the most part very good and honest players are on all factions, but lets not put on rose coloured glasses and think that people are not capable of cheating or using exploits. Lets be realistic. I want fair play and enjoy the good fight, even when we lose.

Zubba

I am EP and fight both enemies every day, and I see alot of others doing the same. As well as hearing some from our Alliance accusing blue and yellow to cooperate as well, in fact I reaad that in zone chat every day.

However my point is if they were doing that, whats the problem? Thats like real Life wars anyway.

R0M2K

EP has greatly increased in tactics and inter-guild coordination, add some presence over the nigth to the equation and there you have the results.

KBKB

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-Bird wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

You need to open your eyes, red and blue never fight each other? Are you sure you are not playing on NA ? Because DC have been fighting EP non stop on Thornblade.

Just like your claims that we had an alliance on AB were ridiculous. On AB, AD night capped and the result was every morning EP and DC smashing AD back to their gates.

It's been the same on Thornblade except now it's EP night capping and no matter how much we pushed today EP just defend so much better than AD did.

Before they took the lead and all the scrolls, people on DC were convinced AD and EP were tag teaming us, as for 3 days straight we had EP at Aleswell and Glade with AD coming from ASH attacking Rayles.

So when i see people claim that we are allied i seriously laugh.

Thank you.

@brianb16_ESO29‌

less pot and you won't be so para brew!

So, if people don't agree with you they are a paranoid pot smoker? Hmmmm, not very sound logic really. I have seen the evidence myself of some players collaborating with the enemy to fight against AD. You can believe what you want but the truth is that SOME jerk players want to win at any cost, I am sure there are some AD players that may use exploits or even try to collaborate with the enemy to win against 3rd enemy. It is entirely possible. But let the facts speak for themselves not be discarded because you don't like the message. If I ever see any player on any faction including AD I would report them, I like fair play, not cheaters.. I do think there for the most part very good and honest players are on all factions, but lets not put on rose coloured glasses and think that people are not capable of cheating or using exploits. Lets be realistic. I want fair play and enjoy the good fight, even when we lose.

Not really what I was getting at, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that their alliances within factions. The idea of AvAvA is to create a sort of wildness/randomness that you can be smashing one faction back to their gates and the other can come from behind and take your imp/home keeps. When something like that happens they have seen you are over extended and most likely have little support on the far side of the map DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE BEING TEAMED UP AGAINST. Sometimes your alliance is a more logical target and sometimes people just want to farm AP. I know I've run into an open keep we didn't own being seiged by the other opposition to drop oil on everybody probably looked like I was helping defend, not the case.

Further example I play AoE 2 1v1v1 or 2v2v2 maps when Im not on eso there have been times where myself and my allies have gone to take one groups army attacking another enemy, reasons being; Location could provide a good tactical standpoint and having the current enemy there is safer than having the bigger threat advancing up the map and people are a lot easier to kill when their focus is on something else.

Worst spot to be is 2nd, you are the logical target of both sides. 1st the biggest threat also a logical target of both sides. 3rd place everyone likes to kick the lowbie and get easy keeps,scrolls/points so also a logical target. Everyone is a viable target at any time which is what makes AvAvA so different and such a massive hit.

I said "logical target" a lot to push a point that everyone is viable and no one is safe.

Bushrat

Black-Bird wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-Bird wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

You need to open your eyes, red and blue never fight each other? Are you sure you are not playing on NA ? Because DC have been fighting EP non stop on Thornblade.

Just like your claims that we had an alliance on AB were ridiculous. On AB, AD night capped and the result was every morning EP and DC smashing AD back to their gates.

It's been the same on Thornblade except now it's EP night capping and no matter how much we pushed today EP just defend so much better than AD did.

Before they took the lead and all the scrolls, people on DC were convinced AD and EP were tag teaming us, as for 3 days straight we had EP at Aleswell and Glade with AD coming from ASH attacking Rayles.

So when i see people claim that we are allied i seriously laugh.

Thank you.

@brianb16_ESO29‌

less pot and you won't be so para brew!

So, if people don't agree with you they are a paranoid pot smoker? Hmmmm, not very sound logic really. I have seen the evidence myself of some players collaborating with the enemy to fight against AD. You can believe what you want but the truth is that SOME jerk players want to win at any cost, I am sure there are some AD players that may use exploits or even try to collaborate with the enemy to win against 3rd enemy. It is entirely possible. But let the facts speak for themselves not be discarded because you don't like the message. If I ever see any player on any faction including AD I would report them, I like fair play, not cheaters.. I do think there for the most part very good and honest players are on all factions, but lets not put on rose coloured glasses and think that people are not capable of cheating or using exploits. Lets be realistic. I want fair play and enjoy the good fight, even when we lose.

Not really what I was getting at, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that their alliances within factions. The idea of AvAvA is to create a sort of wildness/randomness that you can be smashing one faction back to their gates and the other can come from behind and take your imp/home keeps. When something like that happens they have seen you are over extended and most likely have little support on the far side of the map DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE BEING TEAMED UP AGAINST. Sometimes your alliance is a more logical target and sometimes people just want to farm AP. I know I've run into an open keep we didn't own being seiged by the other opposition to drop oil on everybody probably looked like I was helping defend, not the case.

Further example I play AoE 2 1v1v1 or 2v2v2 maps when Im not on eso there have been times where myself and my allies have gone to take one groups army attacking another enemy, reasons being; Location could provide a good tactical standpoint and having the current enemy there is safer than having the bigger threat advancing up the map and people are a lot easier to kill when their focus is on something else.

Worst spot to be is 2nd, you are the logical target of both sides. 1st the biggest threat also a logical target of both sides. 3rd place everyone likes to kick the lowbie and get easy keeps,scrolls/points so also a logical target. Everyone is a viable target at any time which is what makes AvAvA so different and such a massive hit.

I said "logical target" a lot to push a point that everyone is viable and no one is safe.

Now I agree with what you saying here 100%.... my point is this:

I have seen people in guild chat that goes across guild line telling where certain groups are to other factions---that is collaborating. I have seen guys setting up 20 oil pots at a keep in order to make in undefendable by friendly forces and thus ensuring an enemy victory--- that is collaborating with the enemy. I have seen ppl have agreement not attack each other.... ofc not the entire faction, but a group of ppl doing it--- that is collaboration. I have also seen whole groups of players using exploits in order to smash through the enemy--- that is cheating. That was the original point of this whole thread.... that SOME... maybe only a few... are cheating and collaborating with the enemy. At least concede that some people cheat (in every faction), that's my only point with all my comments.

KBKB

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-Bird wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-Bird wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

brianb16_ESO29 wrote: »

Black-bird,

You are sticking you head in the sand... they do and there are ppl have evidence of it, and people have been reported for it. Get a clue, some people are going to do it because they are just idiots. I am definitely not saying that whole large groups do it, but people who can sway things a certain way do. Also it does seem like reds and blues hardly fight each other.... just anecdotal observations reveal this. and as far as people not using an exploit.. well, nobody said it was just one person, but were showing evidence of who we could show. Zenimax has admitted there was a problem.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126634/maintenance-for-na-eu-megaserver-8-14-14

So, there you have it... some people were exploiting, the EP took advantage of the situation, either knowingly or passively, the result is the same.

You need to open your eyes, red and blue never fight each other? Are you sure you are not playing on NA ? Because DC have been fighting EP non stop on Thornblade.

Just like your claims that we had an alliance on AB were ridiculous. On AB, AD night capped and the result was every morning EP and DC smashing AD back to their gates.

It's been the same on Thornblade except now it's EP night capping and no matter how much we pushed today EP just defend so much better than AD did.

Before they took the lead and all the scrolls, people on DC were convinced AD and EP were tag teaming us, as for 3 days straight we had EP at Aleswell and Glade with AD coming from ASH attacking Rayles.

So when i see people claim that we are allied i seriously laugh.

Thank you.

@brianb16_ESO29‌

less pot and you won't be so para brew!

So, if people don't agree with you they are a paranoid pot smoker? Hmmmm, not very sound logic really. I have seen the evidence myself of some players collaborating with the enemy to fight against AD. You can believe what you want but the truth is that SOME jerk players want to win at any cost, I am sure there are some AD players that may use exploits or even try to collaborate with the enemy to win against 3rd enemy. It is entirely possible. But let the facts speak for themselves not be discarded because you don't like the message. If I ever see any player on any faction including AD I would report them, I like fair play, not cheaters.. I do think there for the most part very good and honest players are on all factions, but lets not put on rose coloured glasses and think that people are not capable of cheating or using exploits. Lets be realistic. I want fair play and enjoy the good fight, even when we lose.

Not really what I was getting at, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that their alliances within factions. The idea of AvAvA is to create a sort of wildness/randomness that you can be smashing one faction back to their gates and the other can come from behind and take your imp/home keeps. When something like that happens they have seen you are over extended and most likely have little support on the far side of the map DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE BEING TEAMED UP AGAINST. Sometimes your alliance is a more logical target and sometimes people just want to farm AP. I know I've run into an open keep we didn't own being seiged by the other opposition to drop oil on everybody probably looked like I was helping defend, not the case.

Further example I play AoE 2 1v1v1 or 2v2v2 maps when Im not on eso there have been times where myself and my allies have gone to take one groups army attacking another enemy, reasons being; Location could provide a good tactical standpoint and having the current enemy there is safer than having the bigger threat advancing up the map and people are a lot easier to kill when their focus is on something else.

Worst spot to be is 2nd, you are the logical target of both sides. 1st the biggest threat also a logical target of both sides. 3rd place everyone likes to kick the lowbie and get easy keeps,scrolls/points so also a logical target. Everyone is a viable target at any time which is what makes AvAvA so different and such a massive hit.

I said "logical target" a lot to push a point that everyone is viable and no one is safe.

Now I agree with what you saying here 100%.... my point is this:

I have seen people in guild chat that goes across guild line telling where certain groups are to other factions---that is collaborating. I have seen guys setting up 20 oil pots at a keep in order to make in undefendable by friendly forces and thus ensuring an enemy victory--- that is collaborating with the enemy. I have seen ppl have agreement not attack each other.... ofc not the entire faction, but a group of ppl doing it--- that is collaboration. I have also seen whole groups of players using exploits in order to smash through the enemy--- that is cheating. That was the original point of this whole thread.... that SOME... maybe only a few... are cheating and collaborating with the enemy. At least concede that some people cheat (in every faction), that's my only point with all my comments.

I'm enjoying this back and fourth, you will always get bad eggs in any walk of life. does the group of 20 people in each faction really hold that much of bearing with the amount of pugs, zergs and solo players in Cyrodiil though? It would be very slow going to crown an emp with 20 men on the inside.

Nermy

What is all this complaining about colluding? Get over it. It's part of the package that comes with having 3 factions.

I said it somewhere else, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

Junipus

I haven't been online today so I don't know the current state of the campaign, but at least ZOS did something correct last night (Thursday) with the rollbacks handing scrolls back to DC and AD

Nermy

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

I haven't been online today so I don't know the current state of the campaign, but at least ZOS did something correct last night (Thursday) with the rollbacks handing scrolls back to DC and AD

Oh let's see how flippant you are when the shoe is on the other foot...

Anyway, EP are still way out in front.

Maulkin

Nermy wrote: »

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

I haven't been online today so I don't know the current state of the campaign, but at least ZOS did something correct last night (Thursday) with the rollbacks handing scrolls back to DC and AD

Oh let's see how flippant you are when the shoe is on the other foot...

Anyway, EP are still way out in front.

Yep, we (AD) got some catching up to do. Our population was particularly hit by the crashing and the lag after the update. Not so many big yellow groups around lately.

The rollbacks usually favour the faction that's getting bummed, so the last one worked in our favour. We've been on the wrong end of those rollbacks too and of course it's not fun.

I'm sure we'll rally to give you a good fight before the campaign is over though...

Orchish

Nermy wrote: »

What is all this complaining about colluding? Get over it. It's part of the package that comes with having 3 factions.

I said it somewhere else, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

Tell that to AD please, pretty please , right now DC are smashed right back to to the gates by both EP and AD. Do the people on AD realise who is leading the campaign? EP lead is just getting greater by the day.



Come on AD, get it together On the bright side, i haven't had to use my horse in a couple days now. The enemy being right outside makes for some quick action. Love it

Turelus

From what I have seen AD seem more interested in farming points and gaining Emperor than winning the campaign. This could change (as other from AD have posted).

It doesn't help that DC make a lot of tactically bad decisions as well, when you have AD one keep from claiming Emperor DC players are still trying to take Arrius and open EP gates.

Morticielle

AceofHeart wrote: »

I remember two cheaters in particularly - dark flame lady (destro dk) and some other templar who whipped our entire raids when we attacked BRK and defended Alessia. they were using fire pulsers / blazing shields but those abilities caused 10k+ dps somehow.

Actually the names of both players came up in the zone chat quite often in the last days, mostly because of unexplainable high damage with numbers up to 50k.

I got hit by this Templar for up to 7.5k with one hit. Many others did too and reported him/her. Same for dark flame lady. Still no reaction from Zenimax - as usual. I'm not sure that those players cause this high damage by cheating, it might be a bug, but they exploit it knowingly!

@ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ please look after those players and the reports concerning them! It is not acceptable that after many days with many tickets those two still kill players with astronomical high numbers of damage. How long does it take for Zenimax to react to those issues?

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

Nermy

Orchish wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

What is all this complaining about colluding? Get over it. It's part of the package that comes with having 3 factions.

I said it somewhere else, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

Tell that to AD please, pretty please , right now DC are smashed right back to to the gates by both EP and AD. Do the people on AD realise who is leading the campaign? EP lead is just getting greater by the day.

Well funny you should say that, my raid came across two bananas and two smurfs hiding behind a tree way out in the middle of nowhere. Looked like they were engaged in a bit of dogging...

On a serious note, it has been commented on a few times that DC are bit headless. Maybe you need to tighten your game up a bit and get some alliances amongst yourselves going before anyone starts going on about faction alliances.

The_Death_Princess

Lets not forget the exploit when I see in EP very often where they take no damage. I still want to know how a Sorc can slow walk out of a keep (not normal the slow emote version) be bow hit by me the advance gaurd NB all the way to me, walk right past me ignoring me (no CC would work), walk into my guild of 15 seigers behind me with defenses running and proceed to wipe us all single handed.

Ya, I see this kinda BS exploit pretty much everyday.

FluffiestOne

I saw an EP and AD doing a dolmen together. Obviously alliance. Ban plz.

Keron

Anecdotal Evidence not good.

Who doesn't have stories to tell of the two enemy factions teaming up? As an EP on Thornblade, I can tell of nights of struggle where AD and DC simultaneously attacked us, both of them holding 3 Emperor Keeps each, no fights going on between them (as far as visible on the map) and beating on our last three keeps, with Arrius having two attacks in parallel on each side with meticulously separated teams (AD and DC) not interfering/damaging each other.

I have tales to tell of me sneaking into a position on Arrius Mine that allows me to shoot the AD camp from afar and two DC sneakers ganking me twice without so much as taking up the space to attack AD themselves, even after I gave up and just watched the spot from sneak for like 10 minutes (talk about boring).

I have tales of enemy players of both factions that seem to shrug of literal minutes of attacks from me, from stealth and openly, without so much as a twitching health bar.

I have tales of tenth-of-a-second-kills by a single player with fully filled death recap, meaning at least 5 different skills within a blink of an eye, from both AD and DC.

I have tales of me wanting to suicide to get to a keep quickly, where two or three enemies beat on my a*s, together with four keep guards, and me standing there lagging out for two minutes plus without dying, even though I just do a /dance.

I have tales of me shooting an enemy (just bow light attacks) and nothing happens only to have him drop in a flash the moment he is out of range (and getting full 800-something AP for a solo kill).

I have evidence for none of those tales. Even a death recap screenshot just tells you so much and without the personal experience it says nothing - and even then maybe only that "the lag was strong with this one, young padawan".

Which faction did NOT have [snip] who exploited the glitching thing with enemy faction safe zones. I know I have been killed there by AD as well as DC. I know that the moment I read in EP zone chat from a guy "I have camp set up in DC safe zone", I reported that moron with screenshot, even getting him to admit that he took his whole guild there (talk about killing a ton of bad peas with a single shot) before I screenshotted his a*s into oblivion.

The damage scaling issues have been there, they are acknowledged by devs and are fixed/being looked at. There are players who exploit issues like this on all sides. As with the silver bolts, almost everyone is prone to do so if such a thing is known.

He who removed silver bolts from the bar AND stayed vampire during that issue (which was also acknowledged as bug by devs, btw, thus making all those, who read it on the forums and did it nonetheless, exploiters by definition) may throw the first stone.

All in all, it's always the other faction who fouls up the game experience. For all sides.

EDIT: Oh, and our lead is not due to exploiters but the fact that our strong groups don't go farming AP at a keep ressource but go for caps of key points (Faregyl and Glademist simultaneous lockouts yesterday, for example) and we have some people trying to coordinate by endlessly writing out tactics in zone chat no matter how many flamers tear them up for it. Try it, it works like a charm.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Nermy

FluffiestOne wrote: »

I saw an EP and AD doing a dolmen together. Obviously alliance. Ban plz.

Why? What 'rules' have they broken?