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Thornblade EU - due to exploiters and cheaters, EP gained a massive lead

AceofHeart
AceofHeart
Soul Shriven
I suggest using the backup and reverting the scoreboard to the amounts every faction had before yesterday, because the damage those ebonheart pact exploiters did to the campaign is incurable. they have emperorship and all of the possible scrolls so the unbalance is too great right now.
Edited by AceofHeart on August 14, 2014 7:52AM
  • NekOnOkO
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    And here comes some sort of evidence, like all those videos and screenshots... or not?
    Edited by NekOnOkO on August 14, 2014 8:20AM
  • Lettigall
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    Umm did you even were online last night? About what exploits and cheats are you talking? More people online is an exploit or cheat?

    I was last night online because of night shift and I don't know maybe some PvP guild/s decided to try night attack on that date but that still isn't cheating.

    AD last night were very few online and disorganized. Only DC put up fight and made awesome ambushes when last scroll was transported.

    So please point out where was cheating? Videos, screenshots or even observations?

    Edited by Lettigall on August 14, 2014 8:33AM
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  • KleanZlate
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    Do you mean they are exploiting the system by having emperor and all the scrolls...?
  • AceofHeart
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    I remember two cheaters in particularly - dark flame lady (destro dk) and some other templar who whipped our entire raids when we attacked BRK and defended Alessia. they were using fire pulsers / blazing shields but those abilities caused 10k+ dps somehow.
    Edited by AceofHeart on August 14, 2014 8:48AM
  • Nermy
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    OP, I was fighting on Thornblade EU last night and we had at least two raids going and I resent the accusation of exploiting!

    That's right, I RESENT it.

    There may have been one or two bad eggs but the majority of us do not exploit and you have no grounds to accuse about 200 odd players of being cheaters and exploiters.

    Most of our guys don't even use impulse because we see it as being too easy.

    If you think you have evidence of someone exploiting I recommend you contact ZOS with your claims before you go shooting your mouth off.
    Edited by Nermy on August 14, 2014 9:18AM
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  • Lettigall
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    Report those cheaters, don't flame all EP!!! As for Blazing shield it's tends to bug for all templars, yesterday night I was killed by AD templar's Blazing shield by simply attacking him with Toppling charge(I had 2.7k hp).

    He wasn't cheating or exploiting, simply when I attacked his shield was bugged. Not everyone who does insane dmg is cheater. It's even hard to notice what dmg you are doing in big raid, you don't have time to watch your dmg logs.

    But if you think that person knows that his abilities are bugged and still uses them- report player. If it like you say that those 2 persons duo wiped your ride, catch video of them exploiting, make screenshots and report them. But don't blame whole alliance for few black sheeps.
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  • Greif
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    Report the *** cheaters and good. Dont blame EP for it... we dont want this ppl in our Faction !!
  • Aprodite
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    AceofHeart wrote: »
    I suggest using the backup and reverting the scoreboard to the amounts every faction had before yesterday, because the damage those ebonheart pact exploiters did to the campaign is incurable. they have emperorship and all of the possible scrolls so the unbalance is too great right now.

    I play on AD side on Thorn and since we merge to 1 30 days campain, I've seen things has change. I won't dare to say they are exploits cause could be ahum "bugs", I don't know. In the evening it's going more like, " bleu/red train is there or there" and most of the AD faction will shown them there to play with the (vamp)trains and have fun.

    Zos don't care about "exploits".

    I only don't understand how some vamps can do around 2000dmg with cloudswarm in these (vamp)trains from EP.



    Rip Aprodite - Sorcerer AD-Eur (it was fun untill patch 1.6, I became a tank. They gave me this strong shield to protect me. It became stronger if I stacked magicka. I never asked for this and now you expect from me to relearn my sorcerer again and spent my hardworking money on a broken game.. what do you think? Never forget 5-29-2016!) What a mess!
  • zScars
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    i think what you need to do is pm me how to do that so its everyone can do it, thus creating balance in the eyes of zos
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  • ThyIronFist
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    lol
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  • skoomatrait
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    Greif wrote: »
    Report the *** cheaters and good. Dont blame EP for it... we dont want this ppl in our Faction !!
    u r the one of that bat swarm/impulse exploiter, u never in raid, just waiting for group alone or with another one and then bat/impulse, so stfu lonesome looser )
  • Bushrat
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    We know its not all EP players doing an exploit.... BUT, if you benefit knowingly from an exploit then you are part of the cheat also. If you benefit from an exploit unknowingly then you are not paying attention. It was all over zone chat about several players using the exploit.(we know who they were and they have been reported). But if we get wiped by an exploiter at an area and all of EP benefits then that's how we got stompted so badly. We all know its also numbers of players online.... and people get discouraged and sign off when they get killed by an exploiter several times. You can't blame them. So admit that part of your success came from exploiters. You would not like it if this happened to you would you? I was killed by the guy a few times.. he was not in a zerg train .. he was solo and did me 3997 damage on time with one weapon. So don't try to deny what we all know is happening. If you don't admit it then you are part of the problem and want to benefit from the exploiter.
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  • Greif
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    Greif wrote: »
    Report the *** cheaters and good. Dont blame EP for it... we dont want this ppl in our Faction !!
    u r the one of that bat swarm/impulse exploiter, u never in raid, just waiting for group alone or with another one and then bat/impulse, so stfu lonesome looser )

    hahhahahahhahahahhaahhahah
  • Greif
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    We know its not all EP players doing an exploit.... BUT, if you benefit knowingly from an exploit then you are part of the cheat also. If you benefit from an exploit unknowingly then you are not paying attention. It was all over zone chat about several players using the exploit.(we know who they were and they have been reported). But if we get wiped by an exploiter at an area and all of EP benefits then that's how we got stompted so badly. We all know its also numbers of players online.... and people get discouraged and sign off when they get killed by an exploiter several times. You can't blame them. So admit that part of your success came from exploiters. You would not like it if this happened to you would you? I was killed by the guy a few times.. he was not in a zerg train .. he was solo and did me 3997 damage on time with one weapon. So don't try to deny what we all know is happening. If you don't admit it then you are part of the problem and want to benefit from the exploiter.

    it was one guy.. i heard it from ad friend as we were at sejanus.. what we need to do next time ? go to bed ? stop playing ? wtf man....

    i get killed SO often from exploit and i dont give a [snip]....

    you get wiped because without barrier spam the ad raids are only bad atm.. dont want to flame...

    but this is only mimimimi and hardcore crying...


    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_JuhoJ on August 18, 2014 10:55AM
  • Lettigall
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    We know its not all EP players doing an exploit.... BUT, if you benefit knowingly from an exploit then you are part of the cheat also. If you benefit from an exploit unknowingly then you are not paying attention. It was all over zone chat about several players using the exploit.(we know who they were and they have been reported). But if we get wiped by an exploiter at an area and all of EP benefits then that's how we got stompted so badly. We all know its also numbers of players online.... and people get discouraged and sign off when they get killed by an exploiter several times. You can't blame them. So admit that part of your success came from exploiters. You would not like it if this happened to you would you? I was killed by the guy a few times.. he was not in a zerg train .. he was solo and did me 3997 damage on time with one weapon. So don't try to deny what we all know is happening. If you don't admit it then you are part of the problem and want to benefit from the exploiter.

    Haha if one player cheats then rest of faction must stop playing!!!??? :D:D:D

    Imagine: raid transporting scroll to keep but then 1 cheater in other end of map starts to cheat and all faction logs out wait until cheaters leaves. Seems stupid don't you think?

    And don't pretend that there are no exploiters in your end. There are exploiters and cheaters in every faction. Best thing what you can do is report them and hope that ZoS will finally take action against them.
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  • Rin_Senya
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    NekOnOkO wrote: »
    And here comes some sort of evidence, like all those videos and screenshots... or not?
    Here we go:
    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2616

    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2617

    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2618
    I've made just 3 screenshots, but he killed our whole group ~15 times.
    Greif wrote: »
    you get wiped because without barrier spam the ad raids are only bad atm..
    hahhahahahhahahahhaahhahah
    If they are so bad, why don't you get the Emperorship every day then?>:D
    Nermy wrote: »
    Most of our guys don't even use impulse because we see it as being too easy.

    It was easy? How STRANGE! Sure it was! Cause one of your EP guys killed whole our groups (there were not just 1!) and ~30 pugs just clicking on one button! And you just used the situation. Ouhou has also already told about that at "Arena" guild chat.
    This is an unfair victory. Let's just admit it. So yeah, "Congrats EP on winning this campaign due to bugs". Nuff said.

    Edited by Rin_Senya on August 14, 2014 1:09PM
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  • dcincali
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    Rin_Senya wrote: »
    NekOnOkO wrote: »
    And here comes some sort of evidence, like all those videos and screenshots... or not?
    Here we go:
    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2616

    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2617

    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2618
    I've made just 3 screenshots, but he killed our whole group ~15 times.
    Greif wrote: »
    you get wiped because without barrier spam the ad raids are only bad atm..
    hahhahahahhahahahhaahhahah
    If they are so bad, why don't you get the Emperorship every day then?>:D
    Nermy wrote: »
    Most of our guys don't even use impulse because we see it as being too easy.

    It was easy? How STRANGE! Sure it was! Cause one of your EP guys killed whole ours zergs, groups and ~30 pugs just clicking on one button! And you just used it.
    This is an unfair victory. Let's just admit it. So yeah, "Congrats EP on winning this campaign due to bugs". Nuff said.

    I cant see the pics.. :(
  • Greif
    Greif
    Rin_Senya wrote: »
    NekOnOkO wrote: »
    And here comes some sort of evidence, like all those videos and screenshots... or not?
    Here we go:
    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2616

    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2617

    index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=2618
    I've made just 3 screenshots, but he killed our whole group ~15 times.
    Greif wrote: »
    you get wiped because without barrier spam the ad raids are only bad atm..
    hahhahahahhahahahhaahhahah
    If they are so bad, why don't you get the Emperorship every day then?>:D
    Nermy wrote: »
    Most of our guys don't even use impulse because we see it as being too easy.

    It was easy? How STRANGE! Sure it was! Cause one of your EP guys killed whole ours zergs, groups and ~30 pugs just clicking on one button! And you just used the situation. Ouhou has also already told about that at "Arena" guild chat.
    This is an unfair victory. Let's just admit it. So yeah, "Congrats EP on winning this campaign due to bugs". Nuff said.

    i dont want to flame... really

    but to win the campaign because of 1 exploiter at one night is maybe the funniest and dumbest think ive heard in my life !!!

  • Maulkin
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    That's the same person as in my thread:
    I guess I should have dodge-rolled

    He's been reported so many times, it's getting ridiculous now.

    And Greif, yes that guy's cheating is of course not a reflection upon the entire EP faction. Nor is there anything the rest of you can do about it. I'd imagine the poster you were responding to was speaking out of frustration.

    But if you can't see the problem this causes then you've got to be trolling. A dude with Stampede one-shots, charging from player to player and killing off 30 pugs in a minute can pretty much sway the whole battle.

    You're only 3k ahead in points, don't get ahead of yourselves. It was even worse going into the last couple of weeks of the Auriel's Bow campaign and we still wiped the floor with you ;)

    Kisses :kiss:
    Edited by Maulkin on August 14, 2014 1:47PM
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  • KBKB
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    Did Zenimax not tell you? they don't care =)
  • Greif
    Greif
    That's the same person as in my thread:
    I guess I should have dodge-rolled

    He's been reported so many times, it's getting ridiculous now.

    And Greif, yes that guy's cheating is of course not a reflection upon the entire EP faction. Nor is there anything the rest of you can do about it. I'd imagine the poster you were responding to was speaking out of frustration.

    But if you can't see the problem this causes then you've got to be trolling. A dude with Stampede one-shots, charging from player to player and killing off 30 pugs in a minute can pretty much sway the whole battle.

    You're only 3k ahead in points, don't get ahead of yourselves. It was even worse going into the last couple of weeks of the Auriel's Bow campaign and we still wiped the floor with you ;)

    Kisses :kiss:

    ofc you do... and i love to fight vs your faction

    20 days left... nobody won it till now.

    i dont like ppl who uses exploits like this.. but to be honest .. only remeber silvershard.... all weak ppl used it.

    i hope this never happened again... but after next patch we get next imba exploit.. not the fault of EP

    and i get killed from a yellow exploiter about 20 times at alessia... i laughed my ass of.. wrote him pls to stop... and good
  • KBKB
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    Greif wrote: »

    only remeber silvershard

    Great times, great times. They should reimplement this Cyrodiil needs a good purge way too many bat swarms out there. also the lulz.. oh the lulz.
  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Lettigall wrote: »
    Umm did you even were online last night? About what exploits and cheats are you talking? More people online is an exploit or cheat?

    I was last night online because of night shift and I don't know maybe some PvP guild/s decided to try night attack on that date but that still isn't cheating.

    AD last night were very few online and disorganized. Only DC put up fight and made awesome ambushes when last scroll was transported.

    So please point out where was cheating? Videos, screenshots or even observations?

    The DC ambush squad was us, We are not from Thornblade though.

    Unfortuntely i also got one hit by vampires bane 4.3k, I was testing Thornblade for next campaign, Looks very unlikely now.
    AbraXuS
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  • R0M2K
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    Blood 4 the Pact !
  • Cody
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    Lettigall wrote: »
    We know its not all EP players doing an exploit.... BUT, if you benefit knowingly from an exploit then you are part of the cheat also. If you benefit from an exploit unknowingly then you are not paying attention. It was all over zone chat about several players using the exploit.(we know who they were and they have been reported). But if we get wiped by an exploiter at an area and all of EP benefits then that's how we got stompted so badly. We all know its also numbers of players online.... and people get discouraged and sign off when they get killed by an exploiter several times. You can't blame them. So admit that part of your success came from exploiters. You would not like it if this happened to you would you? I was killed by the guy a few times.. he was not in a zerg train .. he was solo and did me 3997 damage on time with one weapon. So don't try to deny what we all know is happening. If you don't admit it then you are part of the problem and want to benefit from the exploiter.

    Haha if one player cheats then rest of faction must stop playing!!!??? :D:D:D

    Imagine: raid transporting scroll to keep but then 1 cheater in other end of map starts to cheat and all faction logs out wait until cheaters leaves. Seems stupid don't you think?

    And don't pretend that there are no exploiters in your end. There are exploiters and cheaters in every faction. Best thing what you can do is report them and hope that ZoS will finally take action against them.
    bahahahahaha! No one is going to get banned over this:( still though, may as well report them.
  • Bushrat
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    You guys think you won by skill? ha, that's laughable.... we went from 3rd to first last campaign even with the Purple Alliance. Quite frankly reds and blue factions are joke to us because you can only win through exploits or teaming up together.... lets wait til the end of the campaign and see who is so tough!
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  • KBKB
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    the Purple Alliance

    And everyone just wrote you off as a paranoid ***.
  • Lava_Croft
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    Instead of naming and shaming on the forums, which isn't allowed, report supposed exploiters to ZOS using the in-game report function. ZOS has stated that if you feel that people are exploiting the damage scaling bugs, you should report them, so ZOS can see what action has to be taken, if any.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on August 14, 2014 7:11PM
  • Bushrat
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    the Purple Alliance

    And everyone just wrote you off as a paranoid ***.

    you really don't know whats going on with some people in red and blue do you.
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  • Columba
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    I report my own faction several times for this nonsense.
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