Should Achievements be Account Wide?

bluesodafizz

Why are dyes account wide (and in the near future champion points) but not achievements? Why not titles?

Moonscythe

No, Achievements should be kept on a per character basis.

I like that achievements that unlock dyes are account wide but it was just weird when the first character I got to 10 received an invitation to join the alliance but then so did all my lower leveled alts. Where's the sense in that? Does a level 6 NB really belong in Cyrodil?

bluesodafizz

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

Moonscythe wrote: »

I like that achievements that unlock dyes are account wide but it was just weird when the first character I got to 10 received an invitation to join the alliance but then so did all my lower leveled alts. Where's the sense in that? Does a level 6 NB really belong in Cyrodil?

I didn't know achievement had anything to do with getting into Cyrodill. Interesting, this does change how I feel about this a bit.

EDIT: I now am under the impression that this is not normal. If you can take your lvl6 into PvP it may be a bug.

Venereous44

No, Achievements should be kept on a per character basis.

No! Reasons for rolling a 2nd toon has been handicapped enough.

bluesodafizz

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

Venereous44 wrote: »

No! Reasons for rolling a 2nd toon has been handicapped enough.

Why would having achievements be account wide "handicap" your ability to enjoy playing with an alt?

NukeAllTheThings

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

Moonscythe wrote: »

I like that achievements that unlock dyes are account wide but it was just weird when the first character I got to 10 received an invitation to join the alliance but then so did all my lower leveled alts. Where's the sense in that? Does a level 6 NB really belong in Cyrodil?

In game mail is tied to your account and all characters share it. Just because you get 1 invite for your lvl 10 doesn't mean every one of them get in. I have leveled a number of characters and none had access to Cyrodiil until they reach 10.

Nestor

Moonscythe wrote: »

I like that achievements that unlock dyes are account wide but it was just weird when the first character I got to 10 received an invitation to join the alliance but then so did all my lower leveled alts. Where's the sense in that? Does a level 6 NB really belong in Cyrodil?

If you had actually tried to take your level 6 into Cyrodill, you will find out it can't go there.

Just because you have one inbox does not mean the mail is for all characters. Just like not all the letters that arrive at your house are for you (assuming you live with anyone else)

jrgray93

Achievements are an important way to track character progression. I'd be in favor of some of them being account-wide, perhaps just new ones, with some cool rewards for them. Like costumes, dyes, pets, mounts, etc.

bluesodafizz

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

jrgray93 wrote: »

Achievements are an important way to track character progression. I'd be in favor of some of them being account-wide, perhaps just new ones, with some cool rewards for them. Like costumes, dyes, pets, mounts, etc.

Yes, agreed (perhaps some of the achievements should remain per character). But things like opening 1000 chests, harvesting 10000 nodes, blah blah blah, I just don't see any reason for them to be separate.

Inversus

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

I want them account wide, I'd like to unlock all achievements on my primary char but obviously I'm not going to get my crafting achievements on my main, since I level crafting stuff with my crafting alt.

UrQuan

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide but not titles.

Hmm, I voted for account-wide, but after thinking about it a bit now I'm not so sure.

For someone like me with a lot of alts, it can be hard to remember what you have and haven't done with each character, and checking the achievements can be a good way to keep on top of that.

On the flip side to that, it sure would be nice if all of the node harvesting I've done on all of my alts counted towards that achievement. So yeah, I'm on the fence.

The_Sadist

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116035/suggestion-account-wide-achievements-change#latest

*Cough cough*

bluesodafizz

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

The_Sadist wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116035/suggestion-account-wide-achievements-change#latest

*Cough cough*

Yikes, sorry there The_Sadist. Did not see that post, I will flag mine and see if it can be merged.

The_Sadist

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

bluesodafizz wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116035/suggestion-account-wide-achievements-change#latest

*Cough cough*

Yikes, sorry there The_Sadist. Did not see that post, I will flag mine and see if it can be merged.

I bump it every so often for lols, I requested a merge with a previous thread of the same topic I created but received no response, so I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you. That being said having one big thread about this particular topic would be ideal, so feel free to bump mine or continue here, I just felt you should know I started one xD. Spoiler, my responses get snarky as people posted without reading the whole topic and therefore used the same counterarguments which had been addressed.

purple-magicb16_ESO

No, Achievements should be kept on a per character basis.

What's the point of playin new chars if everything is just given to u? As Chevy Chase said (NL Vacation) 1/2 the fun is gettin there.

bluesodafizz

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

What's the point of playin new chars if everything is just given to u? As Chevy Chase said (NL Vacation) 1/2 the fun is gettin there.

The fun of playing new characters is simply that, playing the character. Why do you have to have the achievements every time you play though to tell you that you're doing well? And secondarily, why do think that if achievements are account wide that they are being "just given to you?". You still earned them, just on a diff character. Why does it make you feel better to earn the exact same thing twice?

Nestor

UrQuan wrote: »

On the flip side to that, it sure would be nice if all of the node harvesting I've done on all of my alts counted towards that achievement. So yeah, I'm on the fence.

I think the Achievements that are not related to character progression (Quests, Bosses and Dolmens) should be account wide.

So, harvesting Nodes, Crafting and the like should be Account wide. Especially as Paul does not want us to run every craft line on one character.

Anything that earns a Title needs to remain Character bound, otherwise these titles will have little meaning.

bluesodafizz

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

Nestor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

On the flip side to that, it sure would be nice if all of the node harvesting I've done on all of my alts counted towards that achievement. So yeah, I'm on the fence.

I think the Achievements that are not related to character progression (Quests, Bosses and Dolmens) should be account wide.

So, harvesting Nodes, Crafting and the like should be Account wide. Especially as Paul does not want us to run every craft line on one character.

Anything that earns a Title needs to remain Character bound, otherwise these titles will have little meaning.

Now there's something I can agree with, I think you hit the nail on the head here.

GnatB

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

Most of the "statistical" achievements (crafting, deconstructing, collecting, killing x named, healing, blocking, damaging, etc.) should be account wide. Not just in that obtaining it for one should obtain it for all, but in that all the characters on the account should contribute towards achieving it. (collecting in particular, since as far as I remember the items aren't character bound. Sort of silly that I would have to trade the items to whichever character I'm trying to get the achievement on first for the dye).

Exploration/quest/specific goal ones, (i.e. kill world boss "X", find all the scenic points in "Y", finish questline "Z") should be character specific.


All that said, as my signature makes apparent, I don't think there even SHOULD be achievements, and if there are at the very most there should only be titles associated with them.

Nox_Aeterna

Yes, Achievements should be made account wide.

If they made everything account wide , like horses/achivs...

Then and only then i would consider making an alt.

There is 0% chance i would do it right now considering how much time you spend gathering stuff on one char alone , it takes forever and then some more.

If there is one thing this game is not , is alt friendly , well unless you consider mules , got 7 of those :P.

DenverRalphy

Just because dyes are account wide, doesn't necessarily mean the achievements should be. Keeping them character based allows for flexibility in the future where new rewards may not be account wide rewards.

That being said... I feel that some achievements could be made account wide. Fishing achievements should be. Lvl 50 crafting achievements most definitely should be (otherwise every character would have to do every craft, which IMHO is an unreasonable expectation). And probably many Alliance achievements.

ZOS_UlyssesW

In an effort to consolidate feedback on account-wide achievements, we are closing this poll. If you would like to provide your input on whether achievements should be account-wide, we encourage you to vote in this existing poll.