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Why can't I kill cats?

  • Araflin
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    A nine tailed one perchance?
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    [snip]

    Aye, long pig is as fully eatable as regular pig. I might be called a culturalist for not wanting dog or cat eating in my country, and to heck with foreign culture, but yeah. Wanna eat dogs, then we might as well allow the eating of human corpses.

    And once that's allowed, well, then, the cultural Marxists can truly kiss Western culture goodbye, and then they can throw their victory party. Bad enough they want legal polygamy (but polyandry is beyond the pale) and will probably get it.


    Moderator Edit: Removed  moderated quote
    Edited by ZOS_LucasA on August 11, 2014 2:26PM
  • Raash
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.


    [snip]

    lol, i know i shouldnt bite but i cant help myself: What if I am an asian then, would that make any difference if I might ask? I probably wouldn´t eat a cat IRL unless i absolutely had to, but pretending to do so in a fantasy game? Sure! I can distinguish reality from digital worlds so I dont see any issues with it.
    And i see a commercial use in having vermin npc´s being killable. A cat paw for lucky charm? A dogs tail for strenght etc.

    Moderator Edit: Removed  moderated quote
    Edited by ZOS_LucasA on August 11, 2014 2:27PM
  • Kypho
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    Araflin wrote: »
    There's many slinkin' about in towns and just outside. Lizards, chickens, pygmy guar, monkeys, and frogs all take an arrow to the knee (and until recently even dropped guts so I can fish in lakes!)

    I don't particularly like cats IRL, but I am not cruel to them. Would be nice to shoot a few in game though.

    I am sure some 'Cat lovers' (read: delusional people who have fallen for their evil charms) will disagree but studies have shown that when you die they will eat your face. (Dogs may just pine for the loss of their master for a few days before eating your face). It's all good.

    Let me shoot cats (not Khajiit, I am happy to keep that to npc's and Cyrodil).

    Thanks in advance.

    I am not a catlover eighter, but:
    If we are locked into a cell with you dieing, and i am almost dead from hunger, you can be sure i would kill you and eat your face. and i bet you would do the same. i hope its all good.
    Google: livestock, pets or/and wild animal, wild beast etc...
    Edited by Kypho on August 9, 2014 6:54PM
  • Kypho
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    Let's just say, I'll be happy to let you shoot cats, if they add annoying brat kids that I can shoot, too.

    Oh, I'm not cruel to children IRl, either, but I wouldn't mind the outlet for anti-PC rage (can't smoke across the street from an empty park because it has kiddie stuff in it? And I have to pay $13 a pack because of weenies and their weenism? Phwagh).

    Gimme cats any day, no one forces PC garbage down my throat over cats.

    Lemme put arrows in kids to *** off the anti-birth control/human feelings worshiper crowd, just as putting arrows into cats would put PETA panties in a twist.

    omg I was talking in another thread about how I wanted them to add killable children NPCs too.

    Not cats though, or dogs. Animals are wonderful.

    But virtual death to all cyber children please.

    damn you just need to go to cyrodiil. plenty cyber childrens
  • Araflin
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    Sorry @isengrimb16 that was too far. I have travelled a lot, I have eaten dog and cat and insects (still not tried spider btw). Eating human IS one more step.
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Raash wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    LOL funny. Cat and Dog ... if you dont see a difference between them and a mudcrab, then you are Asian or need to see a doctor. In ES Cat and Dog arent there for food. Mudcrab yes.... And well. they have owners, so you should get killed before they get lower than 2 pts health.
    I would like if they would allow me to kill you and eat your liver, because why not? you arent much different than a pig, or horse, or any other animal. Its true, just open yourself and see.
    New potion from you is to turn into zombie for 30 min maybe? that would be fun.

    lol, i know i shouldnt bite but i cant help myself: What if I am an asian then, would that make any difference if I might ask? I probably wouldn´t eat a cat IRL unless i absolutely had to, but pretending to do so in a fantasy game? Sure! I can distinguish reality from digital worlds so I dont see any issues with it.
    And i see a commercial use in having vermin npc´s being killable. A cat paw for lucky charm? A dogs tail for strenght etc.

    How about a toddler hand for luck?

    I mean, those effing three year olds have all the luck, they can mooch and not do any work. Lemme have their paws for luck. They have it even easier than poor hard done by refugees and "temporary" foreign workers after all, gimme a pale white tiny toddler hand for bad luck.


    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on August 9, 2014 6:59PM
  • Kypho
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    Laura wrote: »
    Araflin wrote: »
    There's many slinkin' about in towns and just outside. Lizards, chickens, pygmy guar, monkeys, and frogs all take an arrow to the knee (and until recently even dropped guts so I can fish in lakes!)

    I don't particularly like cats IRL, but I am not cruel to them. Would be nice to shoot a few in game though.

    I am sure some 'Cat lovers' (read: delusional people who have fallen for their evil charms) will disagree but studies have shown that when you die they will eat your face. (Dogs may just pine for the loss of their master for a few days before eating your face). It's all good.

    Let me shoot cats (not Khajiit, I am happy to keep that to npc's and Cyrodil).

    Thanks in advance.

    only if I can kill dogs too. I can't stand dogs and there incessant barking in this game.

    This has a point. I dont stand some humans and i can kill em in cyrodiil. if they dont kill me first lol. Anyway. yes. Make dogs killable, and the ppl who want to kill dogs and cats killable everywhere pls. That would be fun.
    PS: make cats and dogs with 100k health and with 100k aoe dmg thx. :D


    but really ZoS. Its off topic, but why cant i just go and kill lowbys? it has no sense. i want to kill lowbys. Would be fun to kill 10+ lvl 8 ppl just for fun.
    Edited by Kypho on August 9, 2014 7:01PM
  • Araflin
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    @kypho I just agreed with you on one comment then could not stop laughing when I read the next you quoted as "I wanted them to add Kibble children"- they typed "Killable" just my mind went elsewhere.
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • Raash
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    [snip]
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    So you won't mind if I put arrows in child arse for my own amusement? And yeah, they should drop cookable meat, too, like dogs.

    Some people do eat dogs - and some people still do eat other people, prion disease be damned. That's just a "white lie" designed to control the little people, dontcha know. Taboos against eating humans is just a christian missionary BS thing, after all, forcing values on those who didn't ask for them and all that.


    I'm all for keeping missionaries out of third world countries, and am for keeping British ways out of non-British countries; but I -do- resent non-British trying to impose non-British ways on British-heritage countries. Except Canadian Natives, there's treaties still extant regarding their rights, just ask our Supreme Court about their claims.



    That was an interesting plot twist, I didnt see that one comming thats for sure!
    I was under the impression we where discussing cat npc´s here, I suspect you are in the wrong thread.

    Cats have owners, you cant kill em. why? because owner cant kill you for molesting the cat. discussion over?

    How would you know that? It could be possible that cats and dogs are wild too you know and i think its a huge waste of ingame materials. A cat dress or a dog coat etc could be a wonderful thing to impress other players with.

    Moderator Edit: Removed  moderated quote
    Edited by ZOS_LucasA on August 11, 2014 2:28PM
  • Araflin
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    I used to make LARP costume 25 years ago - we got a job lot of fur from a charity shop that could not sell it. Several pelts could only be described as "Tabby". Looked great.
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Raash wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    [snip]
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    So you won't mind if I put arrows in child arse for my own amusement? And yeah, they should drop cookable meat, too, like dogs.

    Some people do eat dogs - and some people still do eat other people, prion disease be damned. That's just a "white lie" designed to control the little people, dontcha know. Taboos against eating humans is just a christian missionary BS thing, after all, forcing values on those who didn't ask for them and all that.


    I'm all for keeping missionaries out of third world countries, and am for keeping British ways out of non-British countries; but I -do- resent non-British trying to impose non-British ways on British-heritage countries. Except Canadian Natives, there's treaties still extant regarding their rights, just ask our Supreme Court about their claims.



    That was an interesting plot twist, I didnt see that one comming thats for sure!
    I was under the impression we where discussing cat npc´s here, I suspect you are in the wrong thread.

    Cats have owners, you cant kill em. why? because owner cant kill you for molesting the cat. discussion over?

    How would you know that? It could be possible that cats and dogs are wild too you know and i think its a huge waste of ingame materials. A cat dress or a dog coat etc could be a wonderful thing to impress other players with.

    You know, when I was a kid, I was told it was OK to kill wild animals because "nobody knows them". Well, was it OK for Willy PIckton to kill garbage filthy hookers that nobody knew or cared about (except other filthy AIDS-spreading hookers)?

    Moderator Edit: Removed moderated quote
    Edited by ZOS_LucasA on August 11, 2014 2:29PM
  • wookiefriseur
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    Another unkillable cat:
    http://youtu.be/dqO4ezp9Zp8

  • Kypho
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    I dont answer at all XD

    so this thread is ... just... mehh... moderators? :D
  • Araflin
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    Laws, sentience, and plain common sense dictates killing people / skinning and eating is wrong. Does not detract from the fact that other animals are on the menu in some parts of the world.

    p.s. Counting coup is awesome.
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    And also a do-gooder's fantasy; counting coup did involve injury/death of the enemy, despite what college brainwashers like to think.

    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on August 9, 2014 7:18PM
  • Raash
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    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    Because most people's RL cats and dogs are important members of their family and seeing people running around killing them in game would be just as distasteful as seeing people running around killing children. RL crabs are something you eat at the sea food restaurant. Pretty simple really. As a cat lover I'd like to thank ZOS for that!

    I dont buy that. If people cant distinguish between whats real life and fiction they should perhaps find some other hobby and not be playing games or watch movies either really.
  • Araflin
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    And also a do-gooder's fantasy; counting coup did involve injury/death of the enemy, despite what college brainwashers like to think.

    Ahh, again you over stretch and imply I did not understand. Leaving the possibility of your enemy alive is far more empowering than removing them.
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Raash wrote: »
    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    Because most people's RL cats and dogs are important members of their family and seeing people running around killing them in game would be just as distasteful as seeing people running around killing children. RL crabs are something you eat at the sea food restaurant. Pretty simple really. As a cat lover I'd like to thank ZOS for that!

    I dont buy that. If people cant distinguish between whats real life and fiction they should perhaps find some other hobby and not be playing games or watch movies either really.

    Does that go for killable children, too, or just killable dogs and cats?

    I recently came across an article where some African leader prohibits dog-keeping, because he sees it as a "white thing", and would rather us in the West spend our money on his illigitimate kids rather than on feeding our non-human pets.
    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on August 9, 2014 7:25PM
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Araflin wrote: »
    And also a do-gooder's fantasy; counting coup did involve injury/death of the enemy, despite what college brainwashers like to think.

    Ahh, again you over stretch and imply I did not understand. Leaving the possibility of your enemy alive is far more empowering than removing them.

    Oh, it can be, but I'm not really for forced re-education.
  • Raash
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    Raash wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.
    [snip]
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    So you won't mind if I put arrows in child arse for my own amusement? And yeah, they should drop cookable meat, too, like dogs.

    Some people do eat dogs - and some people still do eat other people, prion disease be damned. That's just a "white lie" designed to control the little people, dontcha know. Taboos against eating humans is just a christian missionary BS thing, after all, forcing values on those who didn't ask for them and all that.


    I'm all for keeping missionaries out of third world countries, and am for keeping British ways out of non-British countries; but I -do- resent non-British trying to impose non-British ways on British-heritage countries. Except Canadian Natives, there's treaties still extant regarding their rights, just ask our Supreme Court about their claims.



    That was an interesting plot twist, I didnt see that one comming thats for sure!
    I was under the impression we where discussing cat npc´s here, I suspect you are in the wrong thread.

    Cats have owners, you cant kill em. why? because owner cant kill you for molesting the cat. discussion over?

    How would you know that? It could be possible that cats and dogs are wild too you know and i think its a huge waste of ingame materials. A cat dress or a dog coat etc could be a wonderful thing to impress other players with.

    You know, when I was a kid, I was told it was OK to kill wild animals because "nobody knows them". Well, was it OK for Willy PIckton to kill garbage filthy hookers that nobody knew or cared about (except other filthy AIDS-spreading hookers)?

    Aha mhmm...?! how do I, and you..?... I think I will just take a double whiskey on the rocks and go home a bit earlier this evening. Amazing thread this one is. very much so

    Moderator Edit: Removed moderated quote
    Edited by ZOS_LucasA on August 11, 2014 2:30PM
  • Araflin
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    I'm sorry - I think we have gone WAY off topic but if you would like to send me a mail I'll gladly clarify in chat - I'm far too confused and probably ignorant about your "forced re-education" comment to make it an issue without more information and background.
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
  • aipex8_ESO
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    Raash wrote: »
    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    Because most people's RL cats and dogs are important members of their family and seeing people running around killing them in game would be just as distasteful as seeing people running around killing children. RL crabs are something you eat at the sea food restaurant. Pretty simple really. As a cat lover I'd like to thank ZOS for that!

    I dont buy that. If people cant distinguish between whats real life and fiction they should perhaps find some other hobby and not be playing games or watch movies either really.

    Just because it's fictional, and not real life, doesn't mean that it doesn't illicit an emotional response. That is the definition of good fiction. I'm not in favor of censorship, and of course there are going to be games and movies where children and animals are tortured and killed, but those are going to illicit a very different emotional response than what ZOS is going for in this game.
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    LOL funny. Cat and Dog ... if you dont see a difference between them and a mudcrab, then you are Asian or need to see a doctor. In ES Cat and Dog arent there for food. Mudcrab yes.... And well. they have owners, so you should get killed before they get lower than 2 pts health.
    I would like if they would allow me to kill you and eat your liver, because why not? you arent much different than a pig, or horse, or any other animal. Its true, just open yourself and see.
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    So you won't mind if I put arrows in child arse for my own amusement? And yeah, they should drop cookable meat, too, like dogs.

    Some people do eat dogs - and some people still do eat other people, prion disease be damned. That's just a "white lie" designed to control the little people, dontcha know. Taboos against eating humans is just a christian missionary BS thing, after all, forcing values on those who didn't ask for them and all that.


    I'm all for keeping missionaries out of third world countries, and am for keeping British ways out of non-British countries; but I -do- resent non-British trying to impose non-British ways on British-heritage countries. Except Canadian Natives, there's treaties still extant regarding their rights, just ask our Supreme Court about their claims.



    That was an interesting plot twist, I didnt see that one comming thats for sure!
    I was under the impression we where discussing cat npc´s here, I suspect you are in the wrong thread.

    Cats have owners, you cant kill em. why? because owner cant kill you for molesting the cat. discussion over?

    How would you know that? It could be possible that cats and dogs are wild too you know and i think its a huge waste of ingame materials. A cat dress or a dog coat etc could be a wonderful thing to impress other players with.

    You know, when I was a kid, I was told it was OK to kill wild animals because "nobody knows them". Well, was it OK for Willy PIckton to kill garbage filthy hookers that nobody knew or cared about (except other filthy AIDS-spreading hookers)?

    Aha mhmm...?! how do I, and you..?... I think I will just take a double whiskey on the rocks and go home a bit earlier this evening. Amazing thread this one is. very much so

    Well, that's what I was told when I was a kid, does it make sense to you?

    It does not to me. I don't know Pickton's victims, any more than I know the victims of the fall hunt - but what is the basis of caring? Genetics? If that's the case, then why should I care about ANYONE who doesn't share my genetic profile? Grey eyes, light brown hair, just light enough to attract YT hate.

    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on August 9, 2014 7:32PM
  • Raash
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    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
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    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    Because most people's RL cats and dogs are important members of their family and seeing people running around killing them in game would be just as distasteful as seeing people running around killing children. RL crabs are something you eat at the sea food restaurant. Pretty simple really. As a cat lover I'd like to thank ZOS for that!

    I dont buy that. If people cant distinguish between whats real life and fiction they should perhaps find some other hobby and not be playing games or watch movies either really.

    Just because it's fictional, and not real life, doesn't mean that it doesn't illicit an emotional response. That is the definition of good fiction. I'm not in favor of censorship, and of course there are going to be games and movies where children and animals are tortured and killed, but those are going to illicit a very different emotional response than what ZOS is going for in this game.

    Yes, but we are talking about cat & dog npcs in a game here, last time i played skyrim & ESO i could hunt for deer, rabbits and rats and what not. Rabbits are a common pet aswell as rats?
    Edited by Raash on August 9, 2014 7:35PM
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    Careful now! I hunt, as a matter of life. I shoot arrows into boar and deer once or twice a year. (In season, avoiding Bambie's mom).
    Not guns. Bows. If I wing something I have to track it and bring it in. It's law and sensible, and can take days.
    I just started this as a lark and a discussion. Feels like it went to a dark place just because I humorously wanted equality in the animal world of ESO and a bit of a chat.

    Understand the intention, read the comments. Reign it in. PLZTHXNP!
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
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    I will make sure to use a humane bow when the revolution comes.
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    Raash wrote: »
    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    aipex8_ESO wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    My cat is on my lap right now.

    ...i mean, i don't think he would like to see me killing his brethren :(

    You dont havto slay cats, but why not let us who want to? Sounds a bit selfish?

    Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

    Well, maybe they should be killable with the Justice System update (and may as well make the bounty for killing each 9999999g).

    Ofc im serious, there is very little difference between a cat and a mudcrab really.I dont see why cat & dogs couldnt be part of cooking & alchemy recepies etc. Would make sense really.

    Because most people's RL cats and dogs are important members of their family and seeing people running around killing them in game would be just as distasteful as seeing people running around killing children. RL crabs are something you eat at the sea food restaurant. Pretty simple really. As a cat lover I'd like to thank ZOS for that!

    I dont buy that. If people cant distinguish between whats real life and fiction they should perhaps find some other hobby and not be playing games or watch movies either really.

    Just because it's fictional, and not real life, doesn't mean that it doesn't illicit an emotional response. That is the definition of good fiction. I'm not in favor of censorship, and of course there are going to be games and movies where children and animals are tortured and killed, but those are going to illicit a very different emotional response than what ZOS is going for in this game.

    Yes, but we are talking about cat & dog npcs in a game here, last time i played skyrim i coud hunt for deer, rabbits and rats and what not. Rabbits are a common pet aswell as rats?

    I see what you are saying, but this really boils down to an emotional issue, and you can't apply straight logic to it. Yes, rabbits and rats CAN be pets, but they are more often food or pests in Western society. Dogs and cats are almost exclusively pets, and very beloved pets. I'm usually a very logical person, but am very close to my pets and find it emotionally distressing to see cats or dogs killed or tortured in movies. I understand that movies where that happens are usually dark and trying to illicit that response. I understand that, I'm not confusing real life with fantasy. I'm saying ZOS isn't going for a dark/horror feel where we see gore and beheadings and children and pets being killed.

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    <I just removed the whole Sam Peckinpah dead chickens and a throw away comment that could have been mistaken as an insult>
    Edited by Araflin on August 9, 2014 7:46PM
    " Brave Clarice. You will let me know when those Nirnroot stop screaming, won't you?"
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    I see what you are saying, but this really boils down to an emotional issue, and you can't apply straight logic to it. Yes, rabbits and rats CAN be pets, but they are more often food or pests in Western society. Dogs and cats are almost exclusively pets, and very beloved pets. I'm usually a very logical person, but am very close to my pets and find it emotionally distressing to see cats or dogs killed or tortured in movies. I understand that movies where that happens are usually dark and trying to illicit that response. I understand that, I'm not confusing real life with fantasy. I'm saying ZOS isn't going for a dark/horror feel where we see gore and beheadings and children and pets being killed.

    You feel the same way watching this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLqIWg8KyCY

    ESO is a digital cartoony game.

    Edited: for faulty quote
    Edited by Raash on August 9, 2014 7:43PM
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