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Laerania_ESO✭✭✭
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Edited by Laerania_ESO on August 7, 2014 11:11AM5 -
Raash✭✭✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts6 -
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✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Go play those other games and stop posting in forums then?
A lot of people who are VR12 and have crafter armor won't cry because of level cap increase, they will rejoice because they'll have stronker stats & new/nice/better armor to wear.
Having hit VR12 2 days after the max level was increased from 10 to 12, I approve this change 8).6 -
Raash✭✭✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Go play those other games and stop posting in forums then?
A lot of people who are VR12 and have crafter armor won't cry because of level cap increase, they will rejoice because they'll have stronker stats & new/nice/better armor to wear.
Having hit VR12 2 days after the max level was increased from 10 to 12, I approve this change 8).
Good for you and the "lots of people" then, I know there are people out there being gluttons for punishments and even adults who like wearing dipers and all sort of strange behaviors I cant relate to.
I dont like they gonna raise the lvl cap, whats your problem with that?5 -
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✭✭✭✭VR levels were a mistake and continue to be a mistake. They are a half and half idea that doesn't work. Either make them full levels like all the others with all the benefits or remove them and just leave the champion system with its passives.
It is also sort of sad. I was hoping that in the future some content might be designed a little harder then what we have now. But if they will forever be raising the vr level then all the content added will be dubbed 'mandatory' leveling area and will be just as easy as the rest of the leveling area.2 -
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✭this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.3 -
Kronosphere✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »Actually, it isn't. They said that they're replacing veteran ranks with champion points and 50 will be the max level.
pretty sure they just twisted it to make it sound like there will be no vet level when infact there will always, just with champ points~House Indoril~
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Nicky_W✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The complaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
Edited by Nicky_W on August 7, 2014 1:35PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The complaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
I wouldn't mind so much but they have already shown how fast they want to raise the level cap. And they announced the gear grind. So now you have two end game grinds. First grind the levels then grind the gear. And a month or two later repeat. I like leveling and i like grinding gear. But i dont want to do them both over and over and over. Id like to say ok I'm done with one now i just need to focus on this.0 -
Anastasia✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The complaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1,
which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
I wouldn't mind so much but they have already shown how fast they want to raise the level cap. And they announced the gear grind. So now you have two end game grinds. First grind the levels then grind the gear. And a month or two later repeat. I like leveling and i like grinding gear. But i dont want to do them both over and over and over. Id like to say ok I'm done with one now i just need to focus on this.
But, but, but it will be soooo much more comfortable and relaxing to reach for that gear since the nerf in Vet+ 1-10 content now that mid-levels to endgame is solo-centric. What...you don't want anything to aim for? After a few months of the Champion system, with so many incremental perks added to a player, the ones who have played the longest, and the most will be stronger and more effective, thus creating an even less challenging path to endgame.
It will be easier still in PvE mid to upper level content, and no one will have that pesky 'grouping up' model to worry about. Well, err, endgame PvE content will have consequences, but this may improve the fact that there are lots of folks arriving there who won't have the benefit of having grouped regularly and/or prepped for actual TESO endgame in PvE.
And, imagine! Characters with a broader variety of passives and perks who have been playing longer and have taken advantage of the new Champion points that will be added for the Veteran experience levels are going to have even more
in- depth types of fun with the Justice System as well!
Edited by Anastasia on August 7, 2014 2:04PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The complaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
I wouldn't mind so much but they have already shown how fast they want to raise the level cap. And they announced the gear grind. So now you have two end game grinds. First grind the levels then grind the gear. And a month or two later repeat. I like leveling and i like grinding gear. But i dont want to do them both over and over and over. Id like to say ok I'm done with one now i just need to focus on this.
But, but, but it will be soooo much more comfortable and relaxing to reach for that gear since the nerf in Vet+ 1-10 content now that mid-levels to endgame is solo-centric. What...you don't want anything to aim for? After a few months of the Champion system, with so many incremental perks added to a player, the ones who have played the longest, and the most will be stronger and more effective, thus creating an even less challenging path to endgame.
It will be easier still in PvE mid to upper level content, and no one will have that pesky 'grouping up' model to worry about. Well, err, endgame PvE content will have consequences, but this may improve the fact that there are lots of folks arriving there who won't have the benefit of having grouped regularly and/or prepped for actual TESO endgame in PvE.
And, imagine! Characters with a broader variety of passives and perks who have been playing longer are going to have even more indepth types of fun with the Justice System as well!
Im already dreading just trying to level up my alt. my main is vr7 my alt is 37. It feels like such a waste. Yeah im a dreaded casual but i like my alts. And a level cap allows me to play my alts. No such cap and the time they have made it take to level vr wise pretty much means i cant, or wont. Yeah im a casual and i quest to level so there is no speeding through the vr content. It has already taken me twice as long to get to vr 7 as it did to get to 50.
then they took out the one interesting part of the vr leveling, the challenge. Im scared. But I'm holding out hope for the future.1 -
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well, my crafted legendary armor says that I do not want to start that grind for mats again,
No offense or trolling meant but why do you want to play MMOs then in the first place? You always lose your hard earned, farmed-for-months/years gear with expansions."The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn2 -
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✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Go play those other games and stop posting in forums then?
A lot of people who are VR12 and have crafter armor won't cry because of level cap increase, they will rejoice because they'll have stronker stats & new/nice/better armor to wear.
Having hit VR12 2 days after the max level was increased from 10 to 12, I approve this change 8).
Good for you and the "lots of people" then, I know there are people out there being gluttons for punishments and even adults who like wearing dipers and all sort of strange behaviors I cant relate to.
I dont like they gonna raise the lvl cap, whats your problem with that?
You're the one who has a problem with the way the game is evolving and the rate at which it evolves. I'm just telling you that you're not a unique snowflake, that there are other players who enjoy this. Moreover, you clearly stated that you won't be playing the game anymore so my problem is: Why are you still complaining? It's not like it will change anything nor that it will impact you since "you're unsubing"
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✭✭Problem with this game is that with the bug that allowed people to multiply items and the alt chests that your main could open, mats became very common and widespread so having "legendary" gear became very common. Now that the resources are being consumed and prices have gone up, people are frustrated that their end game gear they had only 3 months after game launch with full legendary enchants is going to be useless.
Flash news: It wasn't supposed to be that way. If you didn't realize that major changes would come because the game clearly wasn't finished on release, you can only blame yourself.Edited by TehMagnus on August 7, 2014 2:27PM6 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Go play those other games and stop posting in forums then?
A lot of people who are VR12 and have crafter armor won't cry because of level cap increase, they will rejoice because they'll have stronker stats & new/nice/better armor to wear.
Having hit VR12 2 days after the max level was increased from 10 to 12, I approve this change 8).
Good for you and the "lots of people" then, I know there are people out there being gluttons for punishments and even adults who like wearing dipers and all sort of strange behaviors I cant relate to.
I dont like they gonna raise the lvl cap, whats your problem with that?
You're the one who has a problem with the way the game is evolving and the rate at which it evolves. I'm just telling you that you're not a unique snowflake, that there are other players who enjoy this. Moreover, you clearly stated that you won't be playing the game anymore so my problem is: Why are you still complaining? It's not like it will change anything nor that it will impact you since "you're unsubing".
That is a good point complaining never changed anything. It is good to know they just randomly changed VR difficulty one day because they were bored.0 -
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well, my crafted legendary armor says that I do not want to start that grind for mats again,
No offense or trolling meant but why do you want to play MMOs then in the first place? You always lose your hard earned, farmed-for-months/years gear with expansions.
no offence taken, thats a good question. To me an MMO is not purely about being able to keep on levling. I enjoy levling when a game is fresh and new, working my way up to max level. when max lvl is reached I get the gear I want and then hang out with mates doing dungeons, pvp and hunting for vanity stuff in a pretty casual manner. I do not oppose raising the lvls, just that in this game the rate at wich they do it is blown through the roof.
With knowing that the lvls will be raised in the close future there simply is no more need to collect any V12 gear, since they will be obsolete as soon as that patch is released.
And to be honest, I was once playing this game called world of warcraft, climbed the pvp ladder and had loads of fun while collecting the gear i sough after, and when I was close to my goal of making high warlord (got to rank 11/13) they changed it all with introducing burning crusade (they too kthe ranking system away) and raising the lvl cap... I quit and never looked back after finding a lvl 61 green item that was stronger then my lvl 60 epic 2 handed mace. With that said, I did have a good year with that game. Hence why the rate at wich they make the same dumb decision to raise cap annoy the hell out of me.
@magnusnetYou're the one who has a problem with the way the game is evolving and the rate at which it evolves. I'm just telling you that you're not a unique snowflake, that there are other players who enjoy this, you clearly stated that you won't be playing the game anymore so my problem is: Why are you still complaining? It's not like it will change anything.
Ah you are the one deciding who is and who is not special snowflakes! ive been waiting to meet you for so long.
I say I am special tho, and what I think about the direction of the game is equally important as any others.
That last thing is not a very good question, as I might just aswell send it back to you? Why do you post, nothing you post here is going to make any difference?
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✭phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The complaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
1) I didn't want that nerf, content was fine.
2) grinding up new vet ranks, easier or not, and having to remake all my gear every 6 weeks is far more than I put in for. No MMO requires that. You get level increases and such maybe once a year.
I want horizontal progression anyway. max level 50 and xp going to champion points once you hit that (which is what I thought was happening)Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.3 -
Nicky_W✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The cmplaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
1) I didn't want that nerf, content was fine.
2) grinding up new vet ranks, easier or not, and having to remake all my gear every 6 weeks is far more than I put in for. No MMO requires that. You get level increases and such maybe once a year.
I want horizontal progression anyway. max level 50 and xp going to champion points once you hit that (which is what I thought was happening)
I didn't say anything about them raising the level, only that Veteran ranks , in their current name and format were staying.
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Mission✭✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Well most games you have grinded that gear for months, if not a year..at least ESO doesn't put you in that..Oh i just grinding for 12 months to get this gear. Now I have to start over..instead you only worked 3 months on it..so not as big of a loss in time spent. Think of it that way!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭killedbyping wrote: »couchkyle25_ESO wrote: »Then why are they adding Season Gear that has no levels at all? They said the whole point was so that your gear mattered, not your level. Now theres no way they'll be letting ppl UNDER lvl 50 run in Trials. So what is the purpose of this system if they simply nerf everyone down to 50? Theres no need for Season Gear in that case. The whole point was so that you dont have to be say, Vet12 to be able to keep up with the Gear chase. You hit lvl 50, buy Season Gear and your in Trial raids with your higher ranked buddies. That was the entire point of this announced system.
Gear do have levels. You just will no longer able to see them, and gear will have no level limitation.
For example, all Tier 2 Trial gear or Elite PVP gear avaible only thru store are actualy VR13 quality.
However this picture are clearly just trolling. 250 damage with just VR15 weapon ? Sure sure
how do you know this information? i did not hear the devs say what you said.
and by the way. that link to the pic is exactly what i saw in zone chat also but it was not a link to a pic but a real link to a real vet 15 weapon that i clicked on ingame and it clearly showed vet 15 as the requirement.
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✭phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The cmplaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
1) I didn't want that nerf, content was fine.
2) grinding up new vet ranks, easier or not, and having to remake all my gear every 6 weeks is far more than I put in for. No MMO requires that. You get level increases and such maybe once a year.
I want horizontal progression anyway. max level 50 and xp going to champion points once you hit that (which is what I thought was happening)
I didn't say anything about them raising the level, only that Veteran ranks , in their current name and format were staying.
veteran ranks are levels, don't be obtuse.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »Actually, it isn't. They said that they're replacing veteran ranks with champion points and 50 will be the max level.
I believe you are wrong. Champion points is an addition to veterancy. Youll do 1-50 then vr1-12 then champion points. That's what the Quake vid said.Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
Vr14 Dk bow/2h
Brayan Blackthunder
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Nicky_W✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The cmplaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
1) I didn't want that nerf, content was fine.
2) grinding up new vet ranks, easier or not, and having to remake all my gear every 6 weeks is far more than I put in for. No MMO requires that. You get level increases and such maybe once a year.
I want horizontal progression anyway. max level 50 and xp going to champion points once you hit that (which is what I thought was happening)
I didn't say anything about them raising the level, only that Veteran ranks , in their current name and format were staying.
veteran ranks are levels, don't be obtuse.
You mentioned something about grinding new veteran levels.
Nothing I have posted in this thread contains my opinion or thoughts on increasing the levels, nor have we seen any evidence from Zen that they intend to do so any time soon.
I only stated that the Veteran Ranks were staying, and their name was irrelevant.
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Raash✭✭✭✭Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Well most games you have grinded that gear for months, if not a year..at least ESO doesn't put you in that..Oh i just grinding for 12 months to get this gear. Now I have to start over..instead you only worked 3 months on it..so not as big of a loss in time spent. Think of it that way!
sure, one can think like that, its a very good point actually. and im happy if that is enough for people. It doesnt do the trick for me tho, sorry to say.0 -
Anastasia✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Laerania_ESO wrote: »
Since normal mmorpgs rise the cap ~every year and players hate it (because they loose everything they grinded for), these devs have to do better and raise it 2 times (and counting) the first 6 months.
Yeah, I suspect they are going for some kind of a record or something. and as you say, where other games have given players a slap in the face with raising the cap ESO follows up with several kicks in the nuts
Go play those other games and stop posting in forums then?
A lot of people who are VR12 and have crafter armor won't cry because of level cap increase, they will rejoice because they'll have stronker stats & new/nice/better armor to wear.
Having hit VR12 2 days after the max level was increased from 10 to 12, I approve this change 8).
Good for you and the "lots of people" then, I know there are people out there being gluttons for punishments and even adults who like wearing dipers and all sort of strange behaviors I cant relate to.
I dont like they gonna raise the lvl cap, whats your problem with that?
You're the one who has a problem with the way the game is evolving and the rate at which it evolves. I'm just telling you that you're not a unique snowflake, that there are other players who enjoy this. Moreover, you clearly stated that you won't be playing the game anymore so my problem is: Why are you still complaining? It's not like it will change anything nor that it will impact you since "you're unsubing".
That is a good point complaining never changed anything. It is good to know they just randomly changed VR difficulty one day because they were bored.
vyndral13preub18_ESO - Gloating is unbecoming. Doesn't matter why they diluted the Vet+ content nor whether we like it - the nerf most definitely DID/DOES have consequences for endgame in this MMO and as we go forward with other content it will be even more notable as per this threads' subject.
"Oh? You mean ZOS is going to make us work for eternally changing gear? Oh? Ya mean I have to group up in endgame to earn that gear? Buttttttt, I haven't had much chance to learn about that group-stuff ;o/ -- and plus, its not fair to not allow me the rewards of further content just because I prefer NOT to involve myself in what it takes to be effective in that content. Just not fair."
Uh-huh.
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✭✭jpredwards10b16_ESO wrote: »If they are already implementing VR15 then that means that one of the new zones; Murkmire or Wrothgar can't be too far off?
It means Upper Craglorn isn't too far off.2 -
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In a sense they are equivalent, but they aren't the same. Every Veteran, be they Vet 1 or Vet 12, is Level 50. When you go up in Vet Rank, you don't get any new points to spend like you did for going up in Level.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »phunkeymonkehb16_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »this is depressing, IU thought they were doing away with vet ranks completely.I could swear they said that.
The vet level crap is dumb, I thought they were going for horizontal progression.
I don't really understand this.
The cmplaint was that people didn't like the veteran grind and the lack of character progression after V1, which they are addressing over the coming months.
Surely whether its called V12 or level 62 is irrelevant?
1) I didn't want that nerf, content was fine.
2) grinding up new vet ranks, easier or not, and having to remake all my gear every 6 weeks is far more than I put in for. No MMO requires that. You get level increases and such maybe once a year.
I want horizontal progression anyway. max level 50 and xp going to champion points once you hit that (which is what I thought was happening)
I didn't say anything about them raising the level, only that Veteran ranks , in their current name and format were staying.
veteran ranks are levels, don't be obtuse.
Anyway, you're right. Veteran Ranks are going away completely once the final version of the Champion System is out. First they are replacing VP with XP as a way to rank up, then they are getting rid of ranks completely and the XP will be used for Champion Points.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Once the Champion System has been fully rolled out, it will replace Veteran Ranks. Don't worry, we'll go into much more detail as we get closer to releasing this new system. It's still being developed, though, so there are still some unknowns.Well no, my understanding is that the XP will go towards the champion system, since the veteran system is going altogether
It's very frustrating to have no comm on the subject from ZOS. The whole thing is confusing and most info we have is from speculation.
This discussion I had with @Laura sums up the confusion quite well:
Having just listened to the whole section on the Veteran System update, I still think it's ambiguous. @ZOS_PaulSage only said they are not removing Veteran Ranks when Veteran Points are exchanged for XP (Phase 2). He still hasn't said what happens to Veteran Ranks at Phase 3, when the Champion System is introduced, aside from that Champion Points will be gained by XP.
That's great, thanks. +1 to the count of "parallel" then :Pthey are NOT taking the veteran ranks out and you will earn champion points while you rank up.
It is still under speculation that all gear may be set to 50 though.
There is an extensive interview on esotr about this
@Laura Have you got a link to that interview? It definitely hasn't been made very clear whether the end-result Champion system is an outright replacement to Veteran Ranks or being added as a parallel.
Personally I would like it as a parallel, that way there is both the horizontal progression of Champion Ratings and the vertical progression of Vet Ranks.
@Enodoc
http://elderscrollsotr.mymiddleearth.com/2014/07/11/episode-118-update-3-w-paul-sage/
this interview is long and I don't remember where he said it but I know he explicitly said they are NOT removing veteran ranks when it was asked in the interview.
Parallel leads 3:1 over replacement
He did make a mention to "everybody level 50 and above", and also mentioned [paraphrased:] "introducing new Season gear that is not restricted by level", which both to me suggest that Veteran Ranks (above 50) and Veteran Gear will still exist.
I just wish someone @ZOS would come and give clarification. Even if they come and say that they haven't answered the question yet because they haven't completely decided whether to do away with VRs completely.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_GinaBruno, please, try and find out for us whether Champion Points are an outright replacement or a parallel system to Veteran Ranks.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_GinaBruno we're still waiting on that clarification :PUESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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