Make Emperor More Accessible

Carnagan

DontBeAfraid wrote: »

scarydrew wrote: »

I am not a hardcore, live in my moms basement, 16 hours a day in cyrodiil type player, thus i will never achieve emperor, the top people on the leaderboards have an absurd amount of alliance points. Is it possible to have a current emperor that receives the full emperor bonuses and a secondary emperor which would be the person with the most alliance points that does not already have the emperor skill line unlocked. The secondary emperor would simply have that skill line unlocked but not receive any of the active emperor bonuses. This would allow everyone no matter how much they play a chance one day to eventually have the emperor skill line unlocked because all of the people ahead of them already have it unlocked. I hate that an entire skill line in the game is basically impossible for me to ever access.

yesterday i saw an former emperor.
he was lvl 25 and pvp rank 3..

Having been Emperor is attached to the account, not the character.

CapuchinSeven

It should be harder to get AND they should remove the previous emperor tree, you get the buff when you get the title.

kassandratheclericb14_ESO

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

It should be harder to get AND they should remove the previous emperor tree, you get the buff when you get the title.

Maybe they could..once you are a FORMER make it that you get to keep one skill from the skill line and the rest go away. That way you get a nice prize but not the skill line.

Fi'yra

Emperor isn't supposed to be easy to get.. lol

Anubis

And while you are on, Zeni, please make Emperorship accessible for pve players, since I'm not a pvp player...

/irony off

SantieClaws

If this were realistic all you would have to do to become Emperor would be to be biologically related to the previous one.

Or you could become Emperor by drinking the previous one - or killing them by some other means.

kassandratheclericb14_ESO

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

If this were realistic all you would have to do to become Emperor would be to be biologically related to the previous one.

Or you could become Emperor by drinking the previous one - or killing them by some other means.

Or eating their heart? *grins*
And nice Futurama reference BTW.

kitsinni

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

I wish casuals and not just Emperor Farmers and Professional MMO Athleses could get Emperor.

Really? You want casual players to be Emperor?

When there are level 13 emperor's I think it is already pretty much that way.

Sallington

I really want to make 150k a year, but I don't have time to work 60 hours a week. Please make it easy for us people that don't want to work as hard. I pay gas money to get to work just like everyone else, so I should be able to make just as much as anyone else.

Spottswoode

Given that:

• The current state of Tamriel borders on anarchy.
• Each of the three factions would not view rule of the throne by the other two with any legitimacy.
• The Worm Cult is directly dividing and setting the factions against each other.

We can safely assume that the position of Emperor is not very valuable. In fact, it would probably be no misnomer to say that the position would entirely be symbolic story-wise. With the political power contained by the three alliances, the imperial authority in shambles, and the Worm Cult manipulating the entire affair, it is a fairly reasonable thing for there to be an Emperor of the Day. That being said, the position of Former Emperor would accordingly be common. Literally, it has no value any more because it has no literal value.
I do, however, find it hard to believe that any jackwagon warlord who happens to be on top of the tophiem of the week would be appointed Emperor by the powers they fight for. Even if the postion is only symbolic, if the rulers of the individual provinces just allow the military to appoint whoever they want they risk significant loss trying to control that position from theirs. (Symbols with an army can be quite dangerous.) It would seem more likely to me that the rulers of each alliance would pick a candidate and run with them as opposed to willy nilly appointing the best warrior.(Granted, in this political state, the candidate who succeeded would almost certainly be assassinated.) So perhaps this Emperor business could do with some organization.
With that said, I have three specific proposals:

• Add two new honorary titles with their own trees: Imperial Battlemage and High Chancellor.
• The position of Emperor should be chosen from a list of candidates. Criteria for the candidacy would change periodically. That candidate would then compete for the crown.
• Assassins of these roles should be given an honorary title. It would also be good if there was a tree for the political assassinations. (Extra damage to the Emperor, things like that)

Adding election politics into the emperor system would be disastrous. Electing the High Chancellor would not be such a terrible idea though.

Bramir

This title and everything that goes with it has lost its meaning because the vast majority of people who have attained emperor did so by exploiting a broken game mechanic.

I wouldn't worry too much about never becoming emperor...people will assume you are an exploiter unless they already know otherwise...with good reason.

scarydrew

Natjur wrote: »

Just dump the Emperor skill line.
Make it so the current Emp gets a bonus, but not skill line.

this seems like a somewhat better idea

scarydrew

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

From your post I assume you are a Nightblade, going to play solo.
Unfortunately if you want to become an Emperor that is not the way you should play.

You need to join groups, defend and attack keeps and play at least 4 hours per day exclusive in Cyrodiil. If you are good player, you will do it.


I do not live in a basement, I work and playing a total around 12 hours in Cyrodiil per week. Yet, I mass around 100K-130K points (and I mean Emperor points) for the same period. (around 8k per hour).

If I was playing 4 hours per day, I would have had amassed enough points to become Emperor on my campaign, however I do not care.

Wabbajack emperor is sitting on several million points, so I don't believe your four hours per day will be enough to get you emperor, and yes I am a nightblade no I am not a solo type player, I go in very large groups and can often get 20-30k/hour when I play. Additionally, with what i suggested, it would only happen when emperor is changed to a different alliance, thus there would only be a new unlocking of emperor skill line once in a while, and I likely would still never see emperor skill line because I'm sitting at like 800 in my alliance rank. Was just a thought

scarydrew

Its funny how angry and outraged people get at a simple suggestion and especially comparing it to real life. No i dont expect a 150k/year job working 20 hours per week, I expect 40k/year working 40 hours/week because thats realistic lol, it's also realistic for a game, especially one like ESO, to adjust things like how emperor is obtained. Not saying that my idea would work perfectly, just brainstorming, which is how a lot of great changes that are upcoming started.

By the way, they are adding in a feature similar to WoW's rested bonus to keep casual players in line with the hardcore players, I'm assuming everyone is outraged at that as well?

scarydrew

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

If this were realistic all you would have to do to become Emperor would be to be biologically related to the previous one.

Or you could become Emperor by drinking the previous one - or killing them by some other means.

Great futurama reference!

Morvul

why do soo many modern "gamers" (using the term very, very loosely here) want everything, but please without doing anything???

scarydrew

Morvul wrote: »

why do soo many modern "gamers" (using the term very, very loosely here) want everything, but please without doing anything???

I've played games since nintendo, I played MUDs MMOs all kinds of RPGs, I dont want anything handed to me, I just felt like the fact that in Wabbajack you need several million points that it was a littttttle bit out of reach for a very large portion of the playerbase, I could be wrong though

Just felt like I was seeing the same person gain emperor over and over and over, I'm not saying obtaining emperor should be easy, probably my suggestion did recommend making it too easy (hence its a brainstorming idea ) I just think if theres only 3 people per campaign (one for each alliance) who ever have enough points to get emperor that might be too limiting.

Nox_Aeterna

While i dont think i will ever get the emperor line , i think it is ok the way it is.

Still , i hope they dont any other skill tree that is behind such wall , they take far to long to add any , making them for just a few would be annoying.

scarydrew

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

While i dont think i will ever get the emperor line , i think it is ok the way it is.

Still , i hope they dont any other skill tree that is behind such wall , they take far to long to add any , making them for just a few would be annoying.

Valid point!

nicholaspingasb16_ESO

No.

moxiesauce

I like that emperor is "suppose" to be hard to gain. They should revert all emperor's as of now since 90% of them were gained through exploits. The real challenge will be after 1.3.

Morvul

well, currently "exploiting" ones way to emperorship seems to be a thing.

However, that does not change the fact that emperor was DESIGNED to be completely, absolute and utterly out of reach for 99% of the playerbase...
And essentially unreachable for another 0.99% of said playerbase :P

oh, and before anyone twists my words: I consider that a good thing!
(speaking as a player firmly belonging to the 99%, not the 0.99% and most certainly not to the 0.01%...)

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Why does the OP care so much about where we live or how we spend our time?

If focusing more on real life is getting him real life benefits, then why does he care if people focus on the game and get in game benefits?

I have said in the past, I will level and work on a character for anyone who will trade me things like their paycheck, their car, their house.

I doubt I'll get emperor but I will live on the damn game in exchange for you passing me your rewards for playing well in real life.

Kl3mzyy

Emperor is way too easy to get on new campaigns and it doesn't have any meaning, you can drop 5 people ( 10 as dk ), but that's it.

So if you want it just go on new campaign and play for 1 day and you will get it.

btw emperor and cyrodil needs major overhaul

Razour

@OP Anything else on that wish list that we can fix you up with so you don't have to break a sweat or do anything inconvenient like play the game?

(and just to be clear - I'm also highly unlikely to ever get emp - and that's fine for me)

srfeivor_ESO

Everyone! Everyone! Come one, come all! Everyone gets a blue ribbon! We're all winners here! Yay! Yay!!!

Cody

just go to hopesfire and ask whatever guild is there to do the pathetic and sad thing known as emperor trading with you. emperorship DOES need reworking, but you wont get it by begging for it.

Cathexis

I'm telling you, emporer slayer status. Maybe some repeatable quests that give you outlandish rewards for killing former emporers and tie emp benefits to displaying the title emp or former emp.

The way I see it, emps and former emps are a dime a dozen. Its time to start deciding who's really an emp and who's just a title and some perks.

scarydrew

moxiesauce wrote: »

I like that emperor is "suppose" to be hard to gain. They should revert all emperor's as of now since 90% of them were gained through exploits. The real challenge will be after 1.3.

This kinda plays more into what i was talking about, I felt that if there were gonna be a ton of exploited former emperors it should be made more accessible to those who arent willing to exploit, but a much better idea is to reset emperor. I agree that I also like emperor is supposed to be for the top .01% but thats not the case right now with all the exploited former emperors. If that can be remedied I'd have less of an issue with it

Greybarren

Just because you want it, doesn't mean you should have it.

Put in the time, and blood, and sweat, and tears ... and you better your chances at getting the perks. Pure and simple. Given the fact that this is a social game with competitive elements, yes that means there will be winners and losers (and exploiters, unfortunately.) The emperor titling and skill line is very much a case of this.

Once rewards are consistently spoon fed, the general satisfaction of said rewards tend to be like that of broth: sustaining, but hardly satisfying.