Seasonal armor problem

Kronosphere

one thing discussed at quakecon was this new seasonal armor that will be released incrementally and get a bit better each time. i like the idea. but what i dont like is, its heavily implied this armor will be top tier. this now means every high level player is going to look exactly the same. motifs are rendered redundant and with it crafters. everyone is going to be walking around and look like 1 of 3 things (light medium and heavy variants) which imo will be horrible.

one big thing i love with mmos is making my character look and feel just right, just how i want them to be. will i now have to slap on this new armor and become a clone soldier like the rest? what do you guys think?

imo there needs to be a new crafting component or material that takes the place of the rare armor drops.

instead of beating boss, getting lucky and getting the armor, u simply get the rare material instead, and then go on to get it crafted into the rare set in the special style or any style of your choice (there are problems with this as well but this is just a quick whipped up example)

Lynx7386

You're wrong, everyone will be walking around looking like one thing, because everyone will still be using 7 Light armor and a destro staff

Samadhi

Maybe the recent redesign of crafted sets and PvP sets is season 1 of this idea, and none of us have caught on yet.

Kronosphere

Lynx7386 wrote: »

You're wrong, everyone will be walking around looking like one thing, because everyone will still be using 7 Light armor and a destro staff

lol oh yeah how stupid of me =P

Rodario

I haven't seen any specifics yet, so it might very well be implemented in the form of bop crafting recipes (alongside the bought armors, but cheaper), thus giving you all style choices.

Karnus

Nothing wrong with a little conformity.

Kalann_Pander

Kronosphere wrote: »

one thing discussed at quakecon was this new seasonal armor that will be released incrementally and get a bit better each time. i like the idea. but what i dont like is, its heavily implied this armor will be top tier. this now means every high level player is going to look exactly the same. motifs are rendered redundant and with it crafters

This is my real concern.
ZoS sold us a game in which you could craft the best gear.
As such, crafting should be a necessary step in acquiring seasonal gear. And by crafting, I don't mean just applying tempers.

Including crafting in the process would also resolve your other concern, as crafting would enable appearance variation via motif choice and dyeing.

The easiest way is to add a lootable item, which would add a "set piece trait" when applied to a piece of gear.

The previous season's gear could be acquired at a special crafting location.

Kronosphere

Kalann_Pander wrote: »

Kronosphere wrote: »

one thing discussed at quakecon was this new seasonal armor that will be released incrementally and get a bit better each time. i like the idea. but what i dont like is, its heavily implied this armor will be top tier. this now means every high level player is going to look exactly the same. motifs are rendered redundant and with it crafters

This is my real concern.
ZoS sold us a game in which you could craft the best gear.
As such, crafting should be a necessary step in acquiring seasonal gear. And by crafting, I don't mean just applying tempers.

Including crafting in the process would also resolve your other concern, as crafting would enable appearance variation via motif choice and dyeing.

The easiest way is to add a lootable item, which would add a "set piece trait" when applied to a piece of gear.

The previous season's gear could be acquired at a special crafting location.

yes this is exactly what we need! only problem is, how do u get a crafter to craft it without the chance they simply steal your stuff and run?

ItsGlaive

Kronosphere wrote: »

one thing discussed at quakecon was this new seasonal armor that will be released incrementally and get a bit better each time. i like the idea. but what i dont like is, its heavily implied this armor will be top tier. this now means every high level player is going to look exactly the same. motifs are rendered redundant and with it crafters. everyone is going to be walking around and look like 1 of 3 things (light medium and heavy variants) which imo will be horrible.

one big thing i love with mmos is making my character look and feel just right, just how i want them to be. will i now have to slap on this new armor and become a clone soldier like the rest? what do you guys think?

imo there needs to be a new crafting component or material that takes the place of the rare armor drops.

instead of beating boss, getting lucky and getting the armor, u simply get the rare material instead, and then go on to get it crafted into the rare set in the special style or any style of your choice (there are problems with this as well but this is just a quick whipped up example)

That's a good point actually, yet another argument for a proper cosmetic tab

Kalann_Pander

Kronosphere wrote: »

yes this is exactly what we need! only problem is, how do u get a crafter to craft it without the chance they simply steal your stuff and run?

Easy : they craft it, you trade for it, and you only apply the "set trait" object when the gear is firmly in your hands

Kronosphere

Kalann_Pander wrote: »

Kronosphere wrote: »

yes this is exactly what we need! only problem is, how do u get a crafter to craft it without the chance they simply steal your stuff and run?

Easy : they craft it, you trade for it, and you only apply the "set trait" object when the gear is firmly in your hands

that could work. seems to take the focus off the crafter tho as they wont be making the endgame gear good. any one and there dog with the item will

KhajitFurTrader

Karnus wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a little conformity.

Bad example, because

[no] animal has a more distinctive coat than the zebra. Each animal's stripes are as unique as fingerprints—no two are exactly alike—although each of the three species has its own general pattern. (source)

So they may look alike for the untrained laymen's eye, but boy, for Zebras there's all the difference in the world. :P

Rune_Relic

Kronosphere wrote: »

Kalann_Pander wrote: »

Kronosphere wrote: »

one thing discussed at quakecon was this new seasonal armor that will be released incrementally and get a bit better each time. i like the idea. but what i dont like is, its heavily implied this armor will be top tier. this now means every high level player is going to look exactly the same. motifs are rendered redundant and with it crafters

This is my real concern.
ZoS sold us a game in which you could craft the best gear.
As such, crafting should be a necessary step in acquiring seasonal gear. And by crafting, I don't mean just applying tempers.

Including crafting in the process would also resolve your other concern, as crafting would enable appearance variation via motif choice and dyeing.

The easiest way is to add a lootable item, which would add a "set piece trait" when applied to a piece of gear.

The previous season's gear could be acquired at a special crafting location.

yes this is exactly what we need! only problem is, how do u get a crafter to craft it without the chance they simply steal your stuff and run?

You make the armour from crafting material bind to player material.
So the material can be used by anyone, but the armour produced can only be used by the person tht got the material drop

Bind on creation rather than bind on equip