Fishing - Still totally broken

Umfafa_Umfafason

As self appointed fishing officer for my guild, I've taken it upon myself to try to catalog the various rare fish and where they can be caught.

Yep, I wanna roll through PVP with a slaughterfish pink set of heavy Nord armor.

It does not appear possible, so how do you offer an achievement in the game that is not possible to get?

Starter island fishing achievement......caught the blue fish at least half a dozen times, and it still doesn't register. Customer support emails say yeah, we know it doesn't work.

Stonefalls wasn't so bad. All the rare fish showed up eventually. 3 rare fish of each water type.

Moving on to Deshaan. There's 3 rare fish in each water type with the exception of foul water. There's ONE fishing node in Deshaan of the foul water type, and from zone chat.....apparently the foul water fish will not spawn there. Also, fish like the Mud Lamprey.....which was caught in a lake, is supposed to be a foul water fish.

Still looking for the Old Man Gar, Toadstool Tilapia and Monkfish. The rest have been caught in the 3 other water types, similarly to Stonefalls. 3 rare fish, 4 water types, 12 fish caught.

It takes work, but you can catch them if you're paying attention...and it isn't broken.

Apparently, though....that's where it ends. 1 out of 3 of the first 3 fishing achievements is possible for my alliance. Should I even try any more?

Not even mentioning Coldharbor, where everywhere is foul waters.....and every green or blue fish I catch isn't even on the list for Coldharbor.

Should I just give up on fishing because someone *** up the database?

Jermu73

Ok now i know it's a bug. I've been trying to get fishing achievement for a long time and i did catch that fish but no achievement in Khenarthi’s Roost

GFBStarWars

dont know who made this, but maybe can help

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bLYOLGKV7WYYa03WhPylV2mKtv7L9xzcyiyeU5TUvOI/edit#gid=0

thanks to whoever made that chart

Umfafa_Umfafason

Yeah, they did make a spreadsheet, but those results are not comparable to what I've caught in Deshaan. The foul water node doesn't even spawn anymore. Been watching it for 2 days.

Mud Lamprey -lake
Old man gar-lake
toadstool tilapia-river
Pikeblenny-sea
Ide-lake
Gourami-lake
Deshaan Chub-river
Cutthroat trout-river
Mustard eel-sea
Mouthbrooder-river
Gibberfish-sea
Monkfish-sea

Their entries for Shadowfen also do not compare to my results.

toxic cooch-missing
histcarp-lake
shark tadpole-river
coelacanth-foul
zander-missing
quillback-(not sure where caught)
boga-river
hardyhead-river
pricklefish-foul
eel goby-foul
orange roughy-missing
opah-river

Kyoma

Try my spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/195fJ7bK4hkXYgncC4Dpp6FIZqKAr5M6wEg7yaIjfoVA/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Umfafa_Umfafason

Yes, those were more helpful. Shadowfen is proving to be quite difficult so yours don't seem to add up to what I've caught so far. Deshaan entries were correct though. (At least when I fished them).

Hotsauce

I went fishing with 2 friends in Auridon the other day, and was cussing them out because node after node they were pulling out Trophy fish. I was getting NOTHING!! Not a single one. After a couple hours I looked at my achievement... and I had actually caught all but 2. I was getting no notification though. Also, one of my friends kept catching Rift fish. It's totally messed up

SeltzerDuke

As long as this thread is here, I should point out that fishing in lake water in the Rift is a waste of time. The lake water rare fish in the Rift are only found in Auridon! My guildmate only discovered this after going through literally hundreds of lake water bait in the Rift and cursing his supposed bad luck. You think this would be simple to fix by reassigning the obviously erroneous swapped database values. The thing about the extreme scarcity of foul water nodes in Deshaan is also strange, since there's an entire corner of the map dedicated to an Argonian village surrounded by a Black Marsh-esque border area filled with snakes and swamp-like waters.

And yes, the starter island achievements have been broken since the beta. I feel for all the new players in these zones who might be achievement-minded and, upon checking the lists of stuff in the tab, might think "Oh, this should be a good one to get right away." I wasted time catching at least three of the rare fish in Bleakrock upon early release before realizing it wasn't a random quirk on my end but an actually broken thing.

Anyhow, I'm about to go V10 and I've decided that fishing will just be a V12 end game thing for me, haha (even though all the achievements are technically complete-able as soon as Cadwell's Gold is unlocked). Hopefully these things will be ironed out by then. I understand it might be the bottom of the priority list (even though I would hope anything involving broken achievements should be looked at pretty expediently, even as something as "frivolous" as fishing, due to the potential frustration involved), but these dyes coming soon are apparently achievement points-based and a lot of players will be looking to cash in some from the fishing section of their achievements tab. Also, if it were so unimportant, why include it at all in broken form? Might as well have saved it for a later launch, then.

traigusb14_ESO2

I've found that some spots can be multiple types (they can alternate, but are only 1 type at a time).

Fishing outside wayrest sewers in wayrest. the river there is sometimes river, sometimes foul.

I'll fish a node using river bait. fish another node or 2 down river..

Fiirst will node come back, I'll get used bait until I switch to my foul bait. Any node on the river, at least down to the waterfall seems to be able to be either river of foul (but just 1 at a time).

This may be true of other places. I have gotten river and foul rares here.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

It would be interesting to see the user interface where the developers type in the information that goes into the tables for fishing and looting. Considering the large amount of stuff that is missing or appears in the wrong place, and the apparent problems with fixing it, the input method must be extremely error prone and difficult to manage.

Reskal

i know 2 foul water nodes, i found yesterday and today. i try to explain:
1. is southly of muth gnaar, a village. you find a little pond there it is a walled halfcircle thats the border to the other map.
2. this one is south of view point coiled path landing. i cannot explain it that exactly but its directly at one of those bamboo bridges. My guess in this region are more of them, the water there looks pretty dirty. But it can be a mix, of foul water-spot and river-spots there.

Since im actually mapping around there, i write down more foul waters if i find.

(when you go here: http://de.slideshare.net/NikolTesla/fishing-compendium-36911855 , there is a little compendium, if you scroll down you see the sorts of rare fishes of deshaan. I think its actual and its helpful also. Obviously foul holes not needed to get all 12 rares, i know someone who got the deshaan-achievement.

Last i heared is, that the 3 starter-maps, where you have to get only 1 fish for achievement, are bugged still(you catch the rare but do not keep it and get no achievement), all others are working - giving achievement i mean.

Neyephe

I was told via customer support that the fishing achievements would be fixed in the next patch, when the dyes come out. They were unable to tell me if we had to "refish" any of the rare fish that did not show on the achievement.

twev

Apparently it's related to the Delta Smelt issue, and Tamriel didn't start conserving water soon enough.

meglon978ub17_ESO

I'll throw in - the Gray Loach in Stormhaven is bugged. You catch it, but it doesn't get counted fr the achievement (only one i had left to catch), and there's only 4 foul water spawn points.. on apparently long timers.

Yes, i bugged it, and have a screenshot of the catch w/ the one add-on open showing it didn't take.... we'll see if they can fix this, or if we're all just screwed over.

Umfafa_Umfafason

Was able to complete Stonefalls, Deshaan, Eastmarch, Cyrodiil, and got started on The Rift. BTW: If you plan on eventually completing fishing, you may want to knock out Cyrodiil before they compress the campaigns. Right now you can get to an empty map, later that might not be possible. Get whacked whilst fishin nodes.

Shadowfen doesn't appear to be spawning lake nodes. Different from having no foul water to fish in Deshaan, at least you could catch the foul Deshaan fish in the other water types. Got 2 lake fish still needed in Shadowfen, but a complete circuit of the map yesterday revealed no lake nodes.

So far, the others are completable, with the exception of the starting island and Shadowfen.

Tallarra

shadowfen dose have lake nodes. they are just really hard to find and only one is up at a time. though once you fish that one seems you have to wait a day for another to come back.. i usually try to find them twice a day but seems i can only find one when i first log on. and thats lucky if i can find one. i just went 2 days without finding any.. lol

Umfafa_Umfafason

I see 1 location in Shadowfen that has a lake node. None of the maps posted here are showing lake node locations.

The Rift lake nodes are bugged as well. They show up, and will give you white fish and tier 2 baits, but when a rare is caught, the animation stops and nothing is awarded.

Coldharbor is completely screwed.....caught 3 rare fish....bichir, cavefish and blueslimefish. None of which are on the list of rares for Coldharbor.

ptheoretpreub18_ESO

For Shadowfen I found 15 lake node, http://i.imgur.com/uChYF43.jpg
when you find one, the next one can be one of those 15 or a completly new one that you have to find. It's kind of broken! It takes me 12 days to find my last rare blue lake fish there.
The rift lake fish and Ice Koi will be caught in Auridon lake http://i.imgur.com/IjqSoQM.jpg
In Coldharbour there is only four rare fish blue, the green-rare will be caught in Reaper's March.

Umfafa_Umfafason

I've checked out that map, and there are no nodes at the blue flag locations. Sometimes there will be a foul water node near it, but nothing on my Shadowfen travels in terms of lakes. The spot I caught the 2 green lake fish at isn't even noted on your map....so I think there may be some differences between players.

Tallarra

Umfafa_Umfafason wrote: »

I've checked out that map, and there are no nodes at the blue flag locations. Sometimes there will be a foul water node near it, but nothing on my Shadowfen travels in terms of lakes. The spot I caught the 2 green lake fish at isn't even noted on your map....so I think there may be some differences between players.

using the map that ptheoretpreub18_ESO posted i have found about 4 of the spots marked on there and have found one not marked. i have caught the 2 greens from the same hole in one of those 4 spots. though i am still missing the histcarp i fish shadowfen daily in hopes of one day finding it~

Darkrogue671

ZoS, if you don't want to take the time to make a credible fishing program towards the achievements, then don't even bother. I'm going to give you credit where credit is due, but I'll also criticize where it's due as well, and your fishing program is just plain bad.

Riften takes the cake. You have two blues you need to get the achievement with only THREE fishing 'nodes' that don't even respond quickly. Now, either the dev team is just plain cynical and cruel, or they don't know any better and neither is a good thing. 50% of Riften is river, YET seems to be classified as a "lake" for what appears to be nothing more than to make the achievement more challenging to get. So, looking at a strip of water, 3 feet across and about 6 inches deep that goes on the length of the map is deemed a 'lake' for nothing more than achievement sake. Shame on you people. Call it out for what it is and change the goals for the achievement, not the other way around.

According to the devs, below would be a LAKE!