Nerf: Materials. Use or Lose.

Soloeus

The idea is simple. All items period will have a "Timer" of say, 30 days from the moment it comes into existence. after this 30 days, the item is deleted permanently.

This will encourage more participation in the economy, and destroy "Stockpiling" as an option.

If you really want to remove botted/duped mats from early period and force an economy going forward, this is how you do it. Ugly? Yes, but it works.

mips_winnt

Soloeus wrote: »

This will encourage more participation in the economy, and destroy "Stockpiling" as an option.

Not to mention encouraging a lot of people to cancel their subscriptions.

Rosveen

Between this and the cash shop, I'm beginning to find it quite difficult to take your threads seriously.

emeraldbay

So...your suggestion is that people will only be able to keep materials for 30 days?

No thank you. Not everyone stockpiles materials for selling, you know. I tend to keep lower-level materials just in case I want to make a new character. And furthermore, what's wrong with people keeping materials to sell? They're only playing the way they want to, how does it affect you?

Also, does this apply to raw materials only, or do refined materials suffer as well? I think I'd be pretty upset if all the iron I refined could never be used for another character unless I leveled two characters at once.

KariTR

Persistent world...

Gilvoth

mips_winnt wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

This will encourage more participation in the economy, and destroy "Stockpiling" as an option.

Not to mention encouraging a lot of people to cancel their subscriptions.

agreed. this idea of a timer is realy not a good idea.

Laura

its certainly out of the box thinking and I can appreciate that. I'm not sure that its something the community would take very well and I can't say that I would be all that happy about it myself.

I think new upgrade items for certain gear down the line may be the answer.. I don't know. i see the point you are making and I think part of the problem comes from the fact that you can get upgrade items off level 1 stuff and use it to upgrade vr12 stuff. Frankly the system is silly and makes legendary gear lul instead of wow but I don't think this is the answer.

AlexDougherty

Soloeus wrote: »

The idea is simple. All items period will have a "Timer" of say, 30 days from the moment it comes into existence. after this 30 days, the item is deleted permanently.

This will encourage more participation in the economy, and destroy "Stockpiling" as an option.

If you really want to remove botted/duped mats from early period and force an economy going forward, this is how you do it. Ugly? Yes, but it works.

And what about hard to get mats like the tempers.

No, just no.

I don't particularly stock my mats, but I am opposed to a mechanic in the game that gets rid of them, leave our materials alone. If I want to craft something I can, when I want, not to get ahead of an artificial deadline that serves most of us no purpose.

reggielee

no. just no. stupid idea.

Gilvoth

reggielee wrote: »

no. just no. stupid idea.

your right, infact, i came here to say just that very thing, but you beat me to it.

Tuttebel

So all the epic and legendary materials I'm saving to upgrade my V12 gear when I get there should rot in my bank account because I choose not to sell them to you? I don't think so ...

Rev Rielle

I'd prefer to see, our character's ability to successfully harvest materials dependent somewhat on their skill using it. e.g. if your character can't use the materials themselves they would have little/no success/ability to harvest it out in the wilds.

reggielee

I guess i should state why i hate it.... long time gatherer/farmer for my own use, I stockpile to make what I want when I need it, most times I outlevel the need so it grows but that is ok, ill be prepped to kit my alts out right away instead of slogging it in greens and white.

those who exploited the mat glitch are prob already low on supplies as they have crafted numerous epic gear. If they run out they prob will just buy more mats off gold farms, its in their nature to cheat.

this only hurts legitimate players who take the slow climb in mmos. if you want to curb gold farmed mat sales, then make the mats bind to acct, but that opens up a whole new discussion on sales for legitimate crafters etc.

Audigy

Without a proper bank system not possible. With one, it might be.

There could be a specific skill line that lets you store wood, flowers, worms etc. better, to extend the lifespan of your goods so to speak.

That said, with our community not possible right now. They are no fans of realism sadly

*I don't want a justice system, as I don't want to die".


You guys here at the thread didn't understand the OP right btw. He was talking about gathered materials like wood, wool - not about extracted material.

stabbykitteh

So I'd lose the Legendary tempers I've been saving since early access, leaving me the option of not having Legendary gear ever or buying tempers at an incredibly over-inflated price from a mat farmer? No, thank you.

freespirit

Audigy wrote: »

Without a proper bank system not possible. With one, it might be.

There could be a specific skill line that lets you store wood, flowers, worms etc. better, to extend the lifespan of your goods so to speak.

That said, with our community not possible right now. They are no fans of realism sadly

*I don't want a justice system, as I don't want to die".


You guys here at the thread didn't understand the OP right btw. He was talking about gathered materials like wood, wool - not about extracted material.

At no point does the OP confirm that he only means 'gathered mats'........

He only talks in terms of 'materials' which imho includes ALL types

Auralia

That's a terrible idea, I absolutely hate it.

Mousmoula

Well, I guess OP is not a crafter...

Jagath

While your at it why not take away the ability to repair your items. Between that and them expiring even if you don't use them Im sure a lot more people will want to play the game..so much for your economy.

MonkeyAssassin24

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This is terrible...this idea...

JKorr

Audigy wrote: »

Without a proper bank system not possible. With one, it might be.

There could be a specific skill line that lets you store wood, flowers, worms etc. better, to extend the lifespan of your goods so to speak.

That said, with our community not possible right now. They are no fans of realism sadly

*I don't want a justice system, as I don't want to die".


You guys here at the thread didn't understand the OP right btw. He was talking about gathered materials like wood, wool - not about extracted material.

I went back and read his post again.

"The idea is simple. All items period will have a "Timer" of say, 30 days from the moment it comes into existence. after this 30 days, the item is deleted permanently."

"All items" isn't gathered materials. All items, period, is ALL ITEMS, which means the tempers and extracted stuff as well as the gathered materials.

No. I have characters I play. Those characters gather material for my crafters. I have characters that are crafters. I craft for my characters. I craft for my friends. I don't want materials/tempers/extracted stuff to disappear because I haven't gotten to use it yet. I didn't use the dupe exploit; I don't do anything with gold/item sellers except report them. I am still working on gathering enough tempers to craft legendaries without failing and losing everything I put into the item up to that point. Having stuff disappear because an arbitrary time limit expired would not be a way to keep me involved with this game.

EDIT:spelling

Istyar

I'm sorry but it's a completely useless and impractical idea.

danno8

Farewell casuals!

Sounds like a great way to eliminate 90% of your playerbase.

Horrum

I will sell and buy what I want to sell and buy and stockpile whatever I want to stockpile.

I have to disagree with this idea. It's a bad idea to force people to sell and buy. Nothing more.

Gilvoth

unfortunately and very sadly i must admit that this is the exactly the terrible type of mind thinking that we have in todays game makers. i would be a bit shocked and surprised if this man is not hired by a game maker.

ThePonzzz

There are plenty of better and prolific ways to stimulate a robust economy. Item decay will never be one of them.

Bolo_Bob

maybe they should add in experience and level decay too.
so like if you dont play a character for 1 hour it start degrading and if you dont play it long enough then you could degrade all the way to level 1, even on crafting skills.

...this is the "dumbest idea's ever" thread right?
just trying to beat someone else to this terrible idea so i can feel special about coming up with an equally stupid idea.

babylon

LOL@rental timer thread for gathering mats.

AlexDougherty

Audigy wrote: »

You guys here at the thread didn't understand the OP right btw. He was talking about gathered materials like wood, wool - not about extracted material.

Even that's a bad idea, I collect enough for crafting, but if my mats started disappearing due to an artificial deadline, well I'ld be extremely annoyed.

Artemiisia

Lol what

That would mean lots of people would lose the legendary mats, since it takes many to make just one piece

if you dont like your mats OP, send them to me or destroy them, but leave my mats out of it

DeLindsay

Soloeus wrote: »

Nerf: Materials. Use or Lose.

Quite possibly the worst idea ever for an MMO.