Patch 1.3 soft caps stats

Bashev

Here you can see the new soft caps of the stats.
PvP

PvE

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Sweet, weapon damage cap is higher. Now 2h users won't be gimped for having a gold weapon and some weapon damage buffs. With this, traits are less likely to cap out stuff before any other buffs come in too (mostly looking at armor and spell resist).

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO

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Trayyacakes

Spell resistance and armor soft caps are untouched, still rendering heavy a bad choice... why ZOS!?

Zerikin

Wow, the main stats are much much higher.

Azarath_tiberius

What is that buff you got?
"Increase All Primary Stats" Is that food buff or something?

Xnemesis

can you post a comparison between PTS and Live?

Atreyu

michaelpitop2eb17_ESO wrote: »

What is that buff you got?
"Increase All Primary Stats" Is that food buff or something?

yes, it's food.



Btw this is a nerf to magicka build and pretty good buff to stamina based dmg build it seems.

in cyrodill the weapon dmg softcap atm is 165. new one 195. While spell dmg is 152 on live, and new one 129.


I must say I'm pretty excited about this change. Looking forward to go back to my beloved Dual Wield build.

olsborg

Yea thats a nerf to my spelldamage. Its already 131 on live, and this would softcap me already...hmm I dont like it, but I guess I'll live....*pout*

Maverick827

Was spell damage nerfed in PvE?

Thejollygreenone

Maverick827 wrote: »

Was spell damage nerfed in PvE?

Yes, it seems all soft caps are teh same in cyrodiil as in pve for some reason, max hp is 500 points higher for bolstering purposes, but other than that these raised soft caps account for both pve and pvp.

Atreyu

Xnemesis wrote: »

can you post a comparison between PTS and Live?

here are LIVE

Maverick827

Wow, 158 to 131 is a massive nerf. I was hoping they weren't going to go this route with balancing, because trying to keep two balls in the air (nerfing Magicka and buffing stamina) is unnecessarily complicating the task of balancing stamina.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ can we please have an open discussion about the nerfing of magicka users? Balance-by-nerf is a historically bad way to go about doing things. Please don't let this be another massive change that gets railroaded through without a discussion.

Hypertionb14_ESO

the spell damage "nerf" only weakens class abilitys tho.. it puts more emphasis on what weapon you use as all weapon abiltiys even the ones based on magicka are based on the weapon damage attribute...

this actually does exactly what i have mentioned before, the biggest problem in the game being the overpowering nature of class abilitys which are ALL magicka based vs the more varied abilitys in weapons... if player builds were more weapon focused, you would see greater use out of weapon builds like most stamina builds...

its sad they have decided to do this via a nerf tho... but i guess in the end you have to nerf something in order to avoid power creep.

Xnemesis

seems like all this did was bring up weapon abilities a bit and bring down class abilities a bit. Im good with it for now I cant wait to test it a bit when I get home.

Arsenic_Touch

This is great. Don't know how well it's going to synergize with the new sets bonuses but it's a step in the right direction.

Maverick827

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

its sad they have decided to do this via a nerf tho... but i guess in the end you have to nerf something in order to avoid power creep.

I don't think you can avoid power creep. Blizzard, who probably has the most experience with huge, successful MMOs, couldn't avoid it with WoW. When I quit playing gear had stats like +267 Agility, and now it's like +1245 Agility. Crazy.

Warraxx

Maverick827 wrote: »

two balls

Tamanous

Brilliant start to solving the magicka vs stamina ability discrepency. Hope it works out as planned.

On a side note: If ANYONE cries about their fotm light armor/staff build being nerfed they should reconsider their connection to reality.

Lyall84

Tamanous wrote: »

Brilliant start to solving the magicka vs stamina ability discrepency. Hope it works out as planned.

On a side note: If ANYONE cries about their fotm light armor/staff build being nerfed they should reconsider their connection to reality.

Agreed, lots of complaints about the loss of 6% spell critical from crafting sets, but completely blind to the 42% spell penetration that light armor magicka builds still have that stamina builds have no way of getting a comparable benefit.

Maverick827

Tamanous wrote: »

Brilliant start to solving the magicka vs stamina ability discrepency. Hope it works out as planned.

On a side note: If ANYONE cries about their fotm light armor/staff build being nerfed they should reconsider their connection to reality.

If ANYONE can't comprehend a way to buff stamina without nerfing magicka, they should reconsider...

Atreyu

are we sure it's legit btw? I mean it's too good to be true so I hope it's not a case of the softcap mod being bugged due to not being updated to that patch.

tom.danhelb16_ESO

Maverick827 wrote: »

Wow, 158 to 131 is a massive nerf. I was hoping they weren't going to go this route with balancing, because trying to keep two balls in the air (nerfing Magicka and buffing stamina) is unnecessarily complicating the task of balancing stamina.

Don't forget they raised the max magicka soft cap significantly which means that the damage output won't change that much even with lower spell power cap. It also means that you will now have more room for your spells since your magicka pool is now higher. I think it's well balanced now. We'll see!

DrimacusMeleth

olsborg wrote: »

Yea thats a nerf to my spelldamage. Its already 131 on live, and this would softcap me already...hmm I dont like it, but I guess I'll live....*pout*

@olsborg‌

Can you give me a hint how you've done that? Right now the only way to get SP is by enchants on rings and amuletts, max 13 per piece. Which is 39 on all three. Which equals in 130 SP (91 base + 39).
Just want to know what I missed here...


edit: oh and @Atreyu just saw your screen, same question to you. How did you get above 130?

DeLindsay

Keep in mind that many sets in 1.3 have Spell damage and Weapon damage as set bonuses. Well to be fair, more are Weapon damage to buff up Stamina builds but there's several with Spell damage as a set bonus too. It is strange that they increased almost all soft caps but chose to leave Resists/Armor alone. Even if they kept the same 30% Soft cap and 50% Hard cap but increased the value it took to reach either, that would've been nice.

DrimacusMeleth

yeah but as far as I know there is no set on live which increases SP. That's why I'm curious...
Seems like I miss something

Reremnu

All Dragonknights rejoice - more max health = slightly "better" Dragon Blood!

Aziz006

No one was not getting that much spell damage anyways. Max you can get now is 136 with 3 piece spell damage jewelery and PvP buff. So instead ZOS brings soft cap down to 131 and introduces some spell damage sets. Now you can get over 140 spell damage. So it is arguable if it is a nerf or not. If you have better argument please share.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

It sounds great. We have to see how it plays out in practice. Magic users should have in mind that this change will give stamina users just fair chance and shouldnt be worried much. If this change is narowing
gap game will become much more attractive and competition more interesting. I finally see some balls here from Zos. Good go Zos !!!

jovial

Aziz006 wrote: »

No one was not getting that much spell damage anyways. Max you can get now is 136 with 3 piece spell damage jewelery and PvP buff. So instead ZOS brings soft cap down to 131 and introduces some spell damage sets. Now you can get over 140 spell damage. So it is arguable if it is a nerf or not. If you have better argument please share.

That's true although with spell power pots we'll have less after patch than before. Still might work out to more overall spell damage.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

Basically if u look at new caps - they are as high as like they almost dont exist ( for resource pools, gear and weapons which will be present at that patch ) except for some categories ( weapon, spell damage. .. ).