So... When does the EU realm REALLY move to the EU?
Palemoon_EU
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I know - this summer. Well, we are now halfway through summer and still no moval. The lag/latency are really starting to kill my game fun. Almost every time, when I order a spell via the corrosponding key... nothing.... It sometimes takes three-four keystrokes, before the spell fires off. This is getting ridiculus...
So pretty please, with butter on top: when is the scheduled moval to EU planned?
So pretty please, with butter on top: when is the scheduled moval to EU planned?
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Night_Watch✭✭✭On the 12th of never!
Just kiddin'.
We were told that the EU server to EU migration would be sometime this summer and, until otherwise informed, that's all we know.
Also - get ready for the influx of posts telling you that lag / latency has nothing to do with location!"If there is an underlying oneness of all things, it does not matter where we begin, whether with stars, or laws of supply and demand, or frogs, or Napoleon Bonaparte. One measures a circle, beginning anywhere."
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Romo✭✭✭✭Bollerlotte wrote: »i dont expect zenimax was serious about "this summer" announcement.
Do expect the "seriousness" to be tied to the console release, which initially was for this summer also.0 -
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We're barely two weeks into summer, how did it suddenly turn into "halfway through"?Well, we are now halfway through summer and still no moval.3 -
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✭✭The german community manager @ZOS_KaiSchober stated in a german thread, that a Megaserver is already running in the EU Datacenter and on internal testing or something.
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ArconSeptim✭✭✭✭I'm sure when it comes, EU server will be the most optimized server running, probably we'll have less bugs than NA ahahahEdited by ArconSeptim on July 6, 2014 5:34PM1
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Night_Watch✭✭✭
Thing is, these threads about EU to EU or lag in general almost always do get ridden with such 'location' posts.
Not saying who is right or wrong!
"If there is an underlying oneness of all things, it does not matter where we begin, whether with stars, or laws of supply and demand, or frogs, or Napoleon Bonaparte. One measures a circle, beginning anywhere."
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Truth hurts?Night_Watch wrote: »Also - get ready for the influx of posts telling you that lag / latency has nothing to do with location!
I play from Europe and see no appreciable 'lag' which I put down to internet latency, my 'ping' times are typically 100 or so which is what I get in all other MMOs I play with NA-based servers. In fact I see little 'lag' at all except for a very occasional spike which may be server or internet, it's impossible to say.
Playing WOW for example I see no play differences at all between east coast/mid-state NA servers with 120 or so ping and those in Europe, only when I play on west coast servers with 200 latency is there any skill delay to speak of and even that doesn't materially affect playing most of the time.
When one is able to play an MMO with the servers in Japan, FFXI, with NO 'lag' then clearly the internet 'ping' time is, per se, irrelevant if the game is designed to handle it.
Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on July 7, 2014 7:47AM4 -
Night_Watch✭✭✭fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »
Truth hurts?Night_Watch wrote: »Also - get ready for the influx of posts telling you that lag / latency has nothing to do with location!
I play from Europe and see no appreciable 'lag' which I put down to internet latency, my 'ping' times are typically 100 or so which is what I get in all other MMOs I play with NA-based servers. In fact I see little 'lag' at all except for a very occasional spike which may be server or internet, it's impossible to say.
Playing WOW for example I see no play differences at all between east coast/mid-state NA servers with 120 or so ping and those in Europe, only when I play on west coast servers with 200 latency is there any skill delay to speak of and even that doesn't materially affect playing most of the time.
When one is able to play an MMO with the servers in Japan, FFXI, with NO 'lag' then clearly the internet 'ping' time is, per se, irrelevant if the game is designed to handle it.
I'm not taking sides on the lag / location debate and, as I wrote; 'Not saying who is right or wrong!'. As to truth, that is said to be like beauty! True in the eye / mind of the beholder.
We will all just have to wait and see what happens with regard to an EU based EU mega server. An update (good or bad) on the matter could be better than none though!Edited by Night_Watch on July 7, 2014 10:21AM"If there is an underlying oneness of all things, it does not matter where we begin, whether with stars, or laws of supply and demand, or frogs, or Napoleon Bonaparte. One measures a circle, beginning anywhere."
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✭✭Now the EU customers can See what the Australian customers must live with forever...
At least you EU players will get a server at some point...0 -
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If the OP has had to press their skill-key more than once, it's got to be server lag which they're primarily experiencing. From what I've seen (as an EU player on the NA server), most lag on ESO is server-lag (which won't be affected by a move), rather than network lag. Sure, moving the servers here will save 50-100ms, but won't make a blind bit of difference to the 250-3000ms lag you get in cyrodil sometimes.
What is worrying me right now is that everyone who thinks that a server move will make things better will be really disappointed when they discover it makes virtually no observable difference.
Edited by WyndStryke on July 7, 2014 12:45PM1 -
Lunerdog✭✭✭✭✭WyndStryke wrote: »
If the OP has had to press their skill-key more than once, it's got to be server lag which they're primarily experiencing. From what I've seen (as an EU player on the NA server), most lag on ESO is server-lag (which won't be affected by a move), rather than network lag. Sure, moving the servers here will save 50-100ms, but won't make a blind bit of difference to the 250-3000ms lag you get in cyrodil sometimes.
What is worrying me right now is that everyone who thinks that a server move will make things better will be really disappointed when they discover it makes virtually no observable difference.
Agree to an extent, the internet lag doesn't help but its server lag and game coding that needs addressing.1 -
Palemoon_EU✭✭WyndStryke wrote: »
If the OP has had to press their skill-key more than once, it's got to be server lag which they're primarily experiencing. From what I've seen (as an EU player on the NA server), most lag on ESO is server-lag (which won't be affected by a move), rather than network lag. Sure, moving the servers here will save 50-100ms, but won't make a blind bit of difference to the 250-3000ms lag you get in cyrodil sometimes.
What is worrying me right now is that everyone who thinks that a server move will make things better will be really disappointed when they discover it makes virtually no observable difference.
Yes and no. A moval won't do anything to server lag. But it will limit the amount of jumps, a EU based client would need to take, before reaching the server = minimized Network lag...
Come on, Zenimax - lift the curtain a bit, so that we can have some Peace at mind. When will the moval take place?0 -
WyndStryke✭✭✭... Yes and no. A moval won't do anything to server lag. But it will limit the amount of jumps, a EU based client would need to take, before reaching the server = minimized Network lag ...
And that'll still only be the 50-100ms I mentioned. I doubt very much whether we'd be able to notice it over the overhead of the serverside lag. There's absolutely no way that it'd have anything to do with the long lag that you were mentioning in your initial post. 100ms versus probably 3000ms is nothing.
The bottom line is that they'll move the servers here, and you won't see any different.Edited by WyndStryke on July 8, 2014 1:25PM0 -
Palemoon_EU✭✭As of now, we experience between 200ms to 700ms... So any improvement, will in my book become a positive experience...0
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✭clearly the internet 'ping' time is, per se, irrelevant if the game is designed to handle it
The key clause here being "if the game is designed to handle it". ESO is quite special in how it handles combat, so network timing becomes an issue. Judging from my frequent mishaps with abilities that don't fire, telegraphs that show only after I have already been hit and blocks that appear well timed on my end but are treated by the server as if I was just standing with my arms down the sides and taking every hit to my face, I can at least suspect that the game is not completely tolerant to my current network delays of around 200 ms. My problems may be due to dropped packets or occasional lag spikes rather than a high average ping, but I think those possible issues would also improve considerably with a server that wasn't sitting halfway across the globe from where I am.
I really hope the situation improves with the server move. I have been more or less unable to play at times because of network delays. No FPS issues, but a sometimes huge clock skew between me and my enemies in combat, which mostly ends up as sudden, unexpected and undeserved damage on my end.
Edited by stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO on July 9, 2014 10:14PM1 -
Devolus✭✭✭I know - this summer. Well, we are now halfway through summer and still no moval. The lag/latency are really starting to kill my game fun. Almost every time, when I order a spell via the corrosponding key... nothing.... It sometimes takes three-four keystrokes, before the spell fires off. This is getting ridiculus...
So pretty please, with butter on top: when is the scheduled moval to EU planned?
According to the July Road Ahead:EU MEGASERVER UPDATE
We’re getting closer and closer to being able to announce a specific date for the migration of the EU Megaserver to our Frankfurt data center. As I type this, it looks like the move will happen during either the last week of July or the first week of August. This is obviously a delicate operation, and we have to make sure that everything is up and running and that all character data is transferred successfully. We are taking the time to do it right.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8"The day I start considering people's feelings before speaking my mind is the day my efficacy as a politician comes to an end. When that day comes, just kill me outright, I beg of you."
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Navuri✭✭✭Can anyone explain to me how the server move to Frankfurt will affect my gameplay in the EU with regards to speed, ping, repsonsiveness and things like that? I'm not a technician or anything like that, so maybe someone can explain how this will affect the EU players. I'm having a good time playing the game at the moment without lag or slow responsiveness. Will I actually see some benefits from this?0
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Auric_ESO✭✭✭✭the closer a server is to you, in general, the better the ping to it. The better the ping the better the responsiveness. Now, we could jeust tbe talking 1000th's of a second in some cases or 1000's of miliseconds in others. Not telling how its going to affect you in particular as there are way too many variables. You could feel nothing or it could make everything just a bit better. Its unlikely to be worse."The purpose of training is to tighten up the slack, toughen the body, and polish the spirit." Morihei Ueshiba0 -
Argurios✭✭Latest update said it will be going live around Julember time. Aiming for the early to late third of the month, most likely sometime between the 1st and 32rd. Unless its a leap year then it might slip.
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I hope it's soon. I don't live in europe but europe is much closer to me. At the moment my ping to the server in the US averages at 360 to 450ms. To servers in europe I normally get about 190 to 200ms. It's very laggy for me to the US and I think there are many other people that have the same problem(Australians etc)0
