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Would you like these improvements to fishing?

  • Csub
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    After fishing is made useful with these nice ideas, we could have fishing competitions or even fishing villages. Or a questlines which rewards you with a trophy that would teleport you to an Oblivion plane that is the fishermen's paradise and you could meet like-minded people there.
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  • Blackwidow
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    Laura wrote: »
    I like it all but the mount. I want mounts to stay lore friendly and I can't think of any that would be fished up. Everything else is a great idea.

    Fishing in this game is just bad.


    Truth is, Nirn is a big world.
    http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/220/b/b/planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png

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    All we know about is Tamriel. One continent. And truthfully we don't even know all about that.

    So, anyone who says, "that should not be in the game because we have never heard of it", is misguided at best.

    We should not change what we already know, but we don't know much about Nirn.
    Edited by Blackwidow on July 7, 2014 2:20PM
  • The_Sadist
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    1. Sure.
    2. Interesting but ultimately indifferent.
    3. As long as it's lore friendly.
    4. No thanks, wouldn't make much sense either given the lack of magical sea mounts in game / lore.
    5. Makes sense.
    6. House pattern pending, but sure.
    7. Sure why not.
    8. Isn't this the same as above?
    9. Sounds good.
    10. Eh, may have some repercussions given your mini game notion.
    11. I suppose.

    Edited by The_Sadist on July 7, 2014 4:03AM
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  • Requiemfang
    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Laura wrote: »
    I like it all but the mount. I want mounts to stay lore friendly and I can't think of any that would be fished up. Everything else is a great idea.

    Fishing in this game is just bad.


    Truth is, Nirn is a big world.
    http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/220/b/b/planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png

    planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png


    All we know about is Cyrodiil. One continent. And truthfully we don't even know all about that.

    So, anyone who says, "that should not be in the game because we have never heard of it", is misguided at best.

    We should not change what we already know, but we don't know much about Nirn.

    seriously you called Cryodiil a continent? it's a province/country located on the continent of Tamriel lol
  • Uisi
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    Great ideas! The fishing system really needs some changes. Despite the achivements, now i cant find any reason to fish.
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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Fishing in this game is pointless.

    I enjoy fishing in WOW, LoTRO, Rift and FFXIV for various reasons depending on the game; I love fishing up chests in WOW while in Rift there's some good food to me made and the dailies I find fun to do.

    In ESO fishing is just nothing .. I did it on my first character for a while and didn't see much point to it, then I caught a 'blue' fish that vanished from my inventory and I never bothered again and nothing I've read since makes me think anything's changed.
  • Cogo
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    Heh, ok it is pointless if you want something value for it. You do get a fish to show off!

    They have stated that in patch 1.3, I THINK, they add fishing, recipes and others fun things.

    Even if I find "pointless" things....its kinda cool. Maybe because I like Skyrim and worlds in general that at least seams alive, it has it uses. But sure, as gold value fishing do you nothing, yet!
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  • Ojustaboo
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    Very good ideas op.

    Point 7, we could even fish up a bottle containing a rare fish recipe
  • tehsa
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Fishing ideas:
    1. Allow first person mode.
    Yes, please.
    Make it a mini game. Right now it is just boring, IMHO.
    Rather than making a "mini game" out of it, make it like in some other games: once you cast the fishing rod, make some fishes appear in the water for your client to see. Make them move around the bait so you can actually see when you might be able to catch something rather the way it is now, where you just wait for your fish to randomly bite, without you getting any hints prior to that moment.
    Let us find a super rare motif (Sea Scale)
    Actually interesting. Couple that to the ability to being able to process your fish to scales and meat to be cooked and you have some really great direct use for all those fish. Make those motifs really rare though, at least 1:100 or so.
    Let us find a super rare magical mount
    ...meh. I do not really like that idea.
    Make the fish usable for cooking.
    oh god, yes please.
    I want to find trophies I can mount in my house.
    When housing ever gets implemented, yes please (another way of processing fish, similar to several ways of using iron in Skyrim etc)
    Let us find quests in bottle, boxes, etc.
    Sounds neat, but only "unrelevant" stuff please. Rewards, that are nice to look at or you can sell to get some money, but don't give you some real advantages.
    I want to find a cursed person who was turned into a fish that gives an epic quest.
    Same as above. Make it interesting etc but either give out some nice cosmetic or sth as reward when the quest is supposed to be really rare, or some useful reward when it's not a *** to get the quest.
    Bait should not take up inventory space or let us find/make a fishing bait box that holds all bait and fish.
    Coupled with housing you could add some fishing accessories container that gives you some fighting debuff when carried so you really have to prepare for fishing but get a decent bonus (the specialized container) out of it.
    Let us be able to do emotes and other small things while fishing.
    When we are fishing, give us the option to be sitting in a laid back chair, drinking a beer.
    Sounds neat, yes please.
    Have fishing contests. This would go great with other contests like traveling carnivals, or sports events.
    Also sounds neat.
  • Cogo
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Hi there, folks. Thanks for the great, constructive thread! That's one epic mount suggestion. o_O

    Thanks. :)

    Any chance you guys are doing anything like this? I know you guys said you were working on improving fishing.

    I have to agree shorty. I like it!
    No mount though. I think Zenimax should handle that.

    Hope they take it, make it, and let us fish up a rare trophy called Blackwidow?
    Edited by Cogo on July 7, 2014 9:32AM
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  • Rivqua
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Fishing ideas:

    1. Allow first person mode.
    2. Make it a mini game. Right now it is just boring, IMHO.
    3. Let us find a super rare motif (Sea Scale)
    4. Let us find a super rare magical mount
    5. Make the fish usable for cooking.
    6. I want to find trophies I can mount in my house.
    7. Let us find quests in bottle, boxes, etc.
    8. I want to find a cursed person who was turned into a fish that gives an epic quest.
    9. Bait should not take up inventory space or let us find/make a fishing bait box that holds all bait and fish.
    10. Let us be able to do emotes and other small things while fishing.
    11. When we are fishing, give us the option to be sitting in a laid back chair, drinking a beer.
    12. Have fishing contests. This would go great with other contests like traveling carnivals, or sports events.

    1. Sure why not
    2. ?
    3. Sure why not
    4. Mount can only only used in water
    5. Sure why not
    6. Like old ladies bikes? Thats the most common trophies u will find
    7. Sure
    8. No reason for it
    9. No reson. If u have it in a box or not it still takes space.
    10. RP alot?
    11. Sure why not

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  • Audigy
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    I think the biggest push fishing should get is adding it to our crafting lines.

    Not sure how many of you actually fish in RL, but you don't only get fish to eat it there. You can also make stuff from the fish you get and this is completely missing at ESO.

    Why not use the fish for luring specific animals into traps, those again give us leather or wool for our house that hopefully soon comes.

    Also we should be able to fish up maps that lead us to a place where we can loot a treasure.

    I honestly am not a fan of fishing up a mount like at other MMOs, its just not realistic. Which pony is actually hiding in the water? It would drown wouldn't it?

    It should stay realistic in my opinion.


    Contests wont work sadly, the idea is good but it cant work in an MMO. I don't know of any MMO where it did, it will just be exploited like at WOW. Also cant say I am a fan of daily quest´s for fishing - its too much a grind.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Fishing ideas:

    1. Allow first person mode.
    2. Make it a mini game. Right now it is just boring, IMHO.
    3. Let us find a super rare motif (Sea Scale)
    4. Let us find a super rare magical mount percyjackson-seaofmonsters-group-600-04.jpg
    5. Make the fish usable for cooking.
    6. I want to find trophies I can mount in my house.
    7. Let us find quests in bottle, boxes, etc.
    8. I want to find a cursed person who was turned into a fish that gives an epic quest.
    9. Bait should not take up inventory space or let us find/make a fishing bait box that holds all bait and fish.
    10. Let us be able to do emotes and other small things while fishing.
    11. When we are fishing, give us the option to be sitting in a laid back chair, drinking a beer.
    12. Have fishing contests. This would go great with other contests like traveling carnivals, or sports events.

    Have a nice day. :)

    All good ideas, would be great like that.
    Especially the minigame, it's boring as it stands at the minute.
    Edited by AlexDougherty on July 7, 2014 9:43AM
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  • Raash
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    I think this was one of the best suggestions of what fishing could and SHOULD be in whatever game that choose to have the feature.
    Its these "small" but so important parts of a game that makes me want to stay with a game.As a matter of fact, it would probably be enough right there for me to resub the game for a while.
  • Rev Rielle
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    It would also be nice if the fish we caught could be eaten as well (different from recipes/cooking). Where there are NPC's fishing we can often pick a fish from their catch and eat it then and there already, so it would be nice to have that option with some of the fish we caught ourselves. Perhaps not with slaughterfish though, or trodh... or if we ate those perhaps we'd get sick.
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  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    8. I want to find a cursed person who was turned into a fish that gives an epic quest. That's an incredible idea Mr Limpet

    Well, Mr Limpet WANTED to be a fish - but he could still have a quest. :)

    Also, there's the old myth about the monkfish - while there's a real fish by that name, this one was supposed to be an actual cross between a monk and a fish (basically, a fish that looked ... and dressed ... like a monk). Can't remember what they were supposed to do though, or if it was just yet another thing some monk stuck in one of those silly medieval bestiaries (they were more about theology than animals.)

    But what first came to mind was a vague memory of some old fairy tale involving a talking fish and a princess.

    Also the mudcrab vendor from .. Daggerfall?

    A lot could be done with this idea, I think.

    As for the rest of them, kudos. Fishing needs pretty much any kind of spicing up, rather than just trying to swap 0g bait for a bit of gold. Used bait doesn't even work as advertised.

    Hoping that trophy cases come with housing.
  • Selique
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    Best fishing ideas ever... Who DOESN'T want to sit back in a chair and down some brews while soaking a bait in the water?
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  • nudel
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    You sir get an awesome.

    Sidenote: that mount kinda scares me. Looks like it's made of cotton candy. I don't know whether to pet it or lick it :/
  • Blackwidow
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Laura wrote: »
    I like it all but the mount. I want mounts to stay lore friendly and I can't think of any that would be fished up. Everything else is a great idea.

    Fishing in this game is just bad.


    Truth is, Nirn is a big world.
    http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/220/b/b/planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png

    planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png


    All we know about is Cyrodiil. One continent. And truthfully we don't even know all about that.

    So, anyone who says, "that should not be in the game because we have never heard of it", is misguided at best.

    We should not change what we already know, but we don't know much about Nirn.

    seriously you called Cryodiil a continent? it's a province/country located on the continent of Tamriel lol

    You know what I meant. :) I was tired. :D
  • hammer_fella
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png
    I'm a bit of a TES lore junkie but I've never seen this map, where did you find it and is it canon? As far as I'm aware this is the first depiction of Akavir that I've ever seen, not to mention some of the smaller isles to the east.
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  • AlexDougherty
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png
    I'm a bit of a TES lore junkie but I've never seen this map, where did you find it and is it canon? As far as I'm aware this is the first depiction of Akavir that I've ever seen, not to mention some of the smaller isles to the east.

    Akavir is in the right place, as is Atmora, they've both been show in books in the TES games. I don't know about the other contientis, but they seem to be ok.
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  • Blackwidow
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png
    I'm a bit of a TES lore junkie but I've never seen this map, where did you find it and is it canon? As far as I'm aware this is the first depiction of Akavir that I've ever seen, not to mention some of the smaller isles to the east.

    I just did search Nirn world map TES. You will see a bunch of hits.

    As far as canon, the continents are named in the books and their location. Check out wiki as well.
    Edited by Blackwidow on July 7, 2014 3:35PM
  • AllPlayAndNoWork
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    I would fish all the time if it meant I could actually use the fish to make provisioning stuff.
  • Blackwidow
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    FYI, the mount does not have to be water based. It could be an idol that summons a mount.

    It could be a lost personal object that sets you on a quest to a powerful mage, and when you get there, he gives you a special mount for the reward.

    Could be a bag of bones, when opened, it makes an undead mount.

    Just open up to the possibilities. :D

  • Reivax
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    My biggest complaint is that there is nothing to do with the fish. Would also like to see the fish being an ingredient for a provisioning recipe.

    I wish it were a little faster, sometimes it is as long as a 20 count before the line twitches. A few seconds is plenty.


  • Cogo
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Laura wrote: »
    I like it all but the mount. I want mounts to stay lore friendly and I can't think of any that would be fished up. Everything else is a great idea.

    Fishing in this game is just bad.


    Truth is, Nirn is a big world.
    http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/220/b/b/planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png

    planet_nirn___political__v1__by_hori873-d6h6lwd.png


    All we know about is Cyrodiil. One continent. And truthfully we don't even know all about that.

    So, anyone who says, "that should not be in the game because we have never heard of it", is misguided at best.

    We should not change what we already know, but we don't know much about Nirn.

    seriously you called Cryodiil a continent? it's a province/country located on the continent of Tamriel lol

    You know what I meant. :) I was tired. :D

    Who are you, and where is Blackwidow?
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  • AlexDougherty
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    Reivax wrote: »
    My biggest complaint is that there is nothing to do with the fish. Would also like to see the fish being an ingredient for a provisioning recipe.

    I wish it were a little faster, sometimes it is as long as a 20 count before the line twitches. A few seconds is plenty.

    That's why the minigame suggestion is in the list, if it's doing more than just sitting around waiting to press E, then it should be more fun.
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    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • Blackwidow
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    Cogo wrote: »
    Blackwidow wrote: »

    You know what I meant. :) I was tired. :D

    Who are you, and where is Blackwidow?

    I know you are used to me being perfect, Cogo. :)
  • Seven_Macaw
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    These ideas would make fishing a lot of fun. I'd love to see a Sload motif you could only find by fishing (let's goooo sload!)

    As for mounts, the Maormer have tamed sea serpents, so maybe you could hook one and ride it for a few minutes before it dumps you in slaughterfish territory?

    I'd like to have fishing boats instead of mounts, like you could charter a boat to a fishing spot you heard about and do some deep sea fishing. On the way you encounter pirates or sea monsters.
  • Cogo
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Fishing ideas:

    1. Allow first person mode.
    2. Make it a mini game. Right now it is just boring, IMHO.
    3. Let us find a super rare motif (Sea Scale)
    4. Let us find a super rare magical mount percyjackson-seaofmonsters-group-600-04.jpg
    5. Make the fish usable for cooking.
    6. I want to find trophies I can mount in my house.
    7. Let us find quests in bottle, boxes, etc.
    8. I want to find a cursed person who was turned into a fish that gives an epic quest.
    9. Bait should not take up inventory space or let us find/make a fishing bait box that holds all bait and fish.
    10. Let us be able to do emotes and other small things while fishing.
    11. When we are fishing, give us the option to be sitting in a laid back chair, drinking a beer.
    12. Have fishing contests. This would go great with other contests like traveling carnivals, or sports events.

    Have a nice day. :)

    All good ideas, would be great like that.
    Especially the minigame, it's boring as it stands at the minute.

    Super rare motif means super rare. Not once a week.

    No mount, forget that.

    Fishing I think I heard a podcast from one of the devs. I guess we will see tonight. If they see this, they might get more ideas about what fish can be for then new recipes.

    Bait takes inventory space. Stop making a EVERY good idea to something easy for you.

    The rest is simply fantastic.

    I am serious if any Zenimax see this, if you make a Throphies, that can be fished up. Make a special one and call is Blackwidow, with his permission, of course.
    Edited by Cogo on July 7, 2014 4:14PM
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