GM imposters in Auridon

Caduryn

Bluepetunia wrote: »

here are two more.....

Are you seriose? I mean really....

1. Those screens are worthless, not readable
2. you can clearly see the Mouse over Name of that GM with a yellow dot right
3. you can see the white shiny Robe
4. you can see lvl 50.



So, what was your point?


But to be fair, GMs should have a different Chat Name Color.

Seravi

I've had several GM's come in on me to help with issues and never did they wear white robes. They have always been projections, the blue see through npc types. If they type to the zone their names have been a bright gold color to show they are not the "regular players". Kind of wondering when they changed up and went to normal characters and normal chat colors.

Komma

I was reading the zone chat. They game across as very friendly to me. They were wanting to get a beginner guild going to help out new players and to be a part of the game to better help the players. Seems when people are nice others don't know how to react. I thought it was weird since I have never seen that in a game but now that I know its real I think its pretty awesome.

Seravi

That would be awesome!

GossiTheDog

Zenimax try to help players.

Community: BURN THEM.

NateMiddleton

I can take nothing from this other than a witch hunt; shame. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

Thank you for trying Zenimax and partner company's. No really, Hard to believe but thanks!

Seravi

Yeah I would love to see them in game more. I think it's awesome they are trying to start guilds for new players. Good to know they have changed how they look cause I am use to the projection GM's.

NateMiddleton

Seravi wrote: »

I've had several GM's come in on me to help with issues and never did they wear white robes. They have always been projections, the blue see through npc types. If they type to the zone their names have been a bright gold color to show they are not the "regular players". Kind of wondering when they changed up and went to normal characters and normal chat colors.

Right when they started to react in-game... it makes sense. They are now trying to mix in with us and some players cry foul! Why they cry foul is beyond me.

Axer

GMs should look more unique imo.

They are pretty much just red guards with white robes. And the white robe doesn't really look unique, pretty sure you can nearly replicate it (aether robe looks pretty similar)

the smoke effect is not noticeable unless you look very close.

They should be bigger, more particle effects, and a cooler unique costume.

adamrussell52_ESO

lighten up

LrdRahvin

adamrussell52_ESO wrote: »

lighten up

Francis

WyndStryke

Perfectly reasonable behaviour on the part of the GMs IMO (being friendly = customer relations, after all), but it was also perfectly reasonable for the player to ask ZOS to confirm that they are GMs (particularly given the current warning about impersonation).

Slash8915

I agree that legit GM's should have different colored names. Seems like MMO 101, honestly...

terryammon

ZOS_JordanH wrote: »

Hey, everyone. Gamemaster Kathar and Gamemaster Finalorn are both legitimate ESO GMs. We hope this provides some clarification on the issue.

As always, no GM will ever ask for details pertaining to a player's account or personal information, so remaining vigilant to impostors is still very important. You can recognize in-game GMs by their white robes and smoke.

Thank you!

Any ingame Gm should have the following as standard and this is talking from experience:

1. Invisible Character Model.
2. Untargetable to the player.
3. Chat should always be a different colour (Yellow most common).
4. Never interact with the public unless its legitimate business.

Its nice to know the GM's are in the background watching and show up when needed, but when you start having staff interacting with the public like this, it makes the staff look unprofessional, Hints why this post is here.

Here's my Tip of the day for you, one developer to another.
How to add ingame CCTV.
Step 1. Create invisible mobs ingame that cant take damage or targeted too.
Step 2. Place these mobs flying at key points of interest around the server.
Step 3. Run multi accounts on the same computer and use a 3 party software to run the clients in smaller squares, then the option to enlarge any client you want.

When i used this type of system on my old freeshard Daoc servers, it worked a treat, with minimum lag added to the servers.
Great way to record large events, from different locations with multiple points of view.

Enjoy

P.S Be nice to see some ingame events, where players can play and watch live, as it happens, it also be a great tactic to get new members and some of the members you have lost, back to the game.

Kenny_McCormick

terryammon wrote: »

ZOS_JordanH wrote: »

Hey, everyone. Gamemaster Kathar and Gamemaster Finalorn are both legitimate ESO GMs. We hope this provides some clarification on the issue.

As always, no GM will ever ask for details pertaining to a player's account or personal information, so remaining vigilant to impostors is still very important. You can recognize in-game GMs by their white robes and smoke.

Thank you!

Any ingame Gm should have the following as standard and this is talking from experience:

1. Invisible Character Model.
2. Untargetable to the player.
3. Chat should always be a different colour (Yellow most common).
   
4. Never interact with the public unless its legitimate business.

well tbh..ur wrong about number 4. my first MMO was SWG(Star Wars Galaxies) great community.GMs actually interacted with the public. got events going. hell if a player had a huge thing they wanted to do and was on a good list with the GMS he/she could inv a GM to do a bunch of stuff (summon mobs/objects..change players into other things (Krayt Dragon/Rancor/Darth Vader FTW)

ik that that time is past. but I hope that ESO/Zeni is trying to bring that back..Good Community = Good MMO = Happyness......these days kids are just too spoiled and nobody cares about other people enough to create a good strong community. that also goes with the GMs yes BUT ATLEAST THE GMs ARE ATTEMPTING TO INTERACT WITH THE PLAYERS.the players just always blame GMs for stuff that the GMs cant do anything about (except give the notes/concerns to to the DEVS (if blame is to be laid..Blame the Devs/people who think up the ideas))

IMO over 10 years....MMOs are about money. not about Community. this needs to be changed. the Player Base needs to change. The Gaming Corporations need to change....if we change. only then will our gaming experience change. if we change. well we will have a damn good community.

GM Interaction = Getting to know them for who they are = More events/Fun = Better Community = Better Gaming Experience for all

yes u may have Experience as a GM..but u must be one of those new age GMs that NEVER get to know the player base by NOT interacting with them. this new age Attitude is just what ruins MMOs. this needs to change.

that is all (period)

terryammon

@Kenny_McCormick‌
I think misunderstood my point with "legitimate business".

Theres a fine line between a member of staff, helping players, interacting with them or just messing about with a group of people, also as they keep their acts fair on all players, it's fine, but when you have staff messing around ingame and tell players they cant do this or that in zone chat, you have crossed that fine line and its not professional anymore, but childish .

Celuwen

I hope this is the start of GM events! I do think they need their own colour coding and outfits so that people don't become confused. We've been warned about people impersonating GMs after all so the wariness is warranted.

Still, GM events! Please, please.

LrdRahvin

Celuwen wrote: »

I hope this is the start of GM events! I do think they need their own colour coding and outfits so that people don't become confused. We've been warned about people impersonating GMs after all so the wariness is warranted.

Still, GM events! Please, please.

Pin the tail on the Devs? (With a REALLY big pin)

Saerydoth

Blizzard actually stopped having their GM's physically appear in game years ago, due to situations like this. People would bother them, ask them to do weird things, etc. They finally just had GM's answer tickets only (they don't even whisper you anymore unless it's necessary to solve the issue).

chuck-18_ESO

When the company is warning us of imposters, then places a GM in-game that looks NOTHING like ANY of the GMs that have appeared before, with ZERO forum posts that authentic GMs would be appearing in-game just to sit around (which is a very, very unique action for a GM to do), it raises red flags. No one should be made to feel foolish for reporting red flags.

ers101284b14_ESO

chuck-18_ESO wrote: »

When the company is warning us of imposters, then places a GM in-game that looks NOTHING like ANY of the GMs that have appeared before, with ZERO forum posts that authentic GMs would be appearing in-game just to sit around (which is a very, very unique action for a GM to do), it raises red flags. No one should be made to feel foolish for reporting red flags.

That parts fine. Its the people saying GM's shouldn't be part of the community that I have a problem with. I'd be all cool doing a dungeon run with them. OR being in their guild.

brandon

I hope they continue to play in the game that would be awesome. I just hope they have a gold chat when they talk so they can be recognized.

fosley_ESO

I have fond memories of GM-sponsored events in other games, and I don't have any problem with GMs sitting around in-game while they are monitoring for potential problems, but I do think it's important that they can be clearly distinguished from other players while in a GM role. Of course, if they're on their own account playing from home, they should look like anyone else, but they probably shouldn't be acting like GMs at that point.

And even though "What's the problem? Maybe I can log my GM account to fix it real quick," seems reasonable, it's probably not a good idea to let the world know PlayerNameX is a GM, or you'll never get a moment's peace while gaming on your off-time.

At the very least, some notification that anyone named "Gamemaster XXX" is definitely a real GM (and behind-the-scenes coding to ensure this is true) would be nice.

WyndStryke

terryammon wrote: »

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3. Chat should always be a different colour (Yellow most common).

Agree with this

4. Never interact with the public unless its legitimate business.

Totally disagree with this

Lunerdog

It's nice to hear that GM's have been in game and that they are willing to take part in activities/set up a guild etc.

But they do need to stand out as genuine GM's, unfortunately but correctly due to scammers and exploiters etc we live in a world of mistrust and I too would have been sceptical in this situation.

Good luck to them and I hope they succeed in their endeavours.

shiva7663

Exclusive colored chat for GMs is essential to prevent impostors.

Bluepetunia

shiva7663 wrote: »

Exclusive colored chat for GMs is essential to prevent impostors.

I agree with this, and thought this was the norm in ESO. Early on in the game when a Gamemaster made their presence known he/she was in yellow letters as was their name.

I also think recruiting for a guild by a GM poses a risk for exploiting the game.
And an unfair advantage to other players who choose not to be in a GM managed guild.