DID ZOS just push an un-announced hot fix??

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Inimicus wrote: »

How about this one, then?

http://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/195

We're always hiring here, especially as we prepare to support console. QA is no exception.

RedMiniStapler

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We're always hiring here, especially as we prepare to support console. QA is no exception.

amount of 'rage' you guys deal with, i hope you guys are getting paid well.

Mablung

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Funny - what you choose to chime in on. When can we expect a rollback Jessica?

We have been responding. The most we can offer as an answer right now is that we're continuing to work on fixing the FPS drop issue. As soon as we're able to provide a concrete date for a full resolution, we will.

Thank you.

bitaken wrote: »

Funny - what you choose to chime in on. When can we expect a rollback Jessica?

She has been responding just read any of the multiple threads or hit the green dev/mod circle next to a relevant post and you will see the response.

Akhratos

I haver over 300fps now playing at 4K resolution with my oced Riva TNT, around 200ish when I join the 2k player battles in the so populated Cyrodil campaign where I play. Its the one where people do not openly exploit of course, we are all legit happy players. In the EU Frankfurt server.

All the people there is dancing and chanting praises to ZOS for fixing something that did not even exist in the first place (or for some people who claim it fixed after openly negating to have any issue a few hours before).

The best part came when the battle finished (nobody got hurt except for someone who got an arrow to the knee), and worthy pvp legendary set items started dropping from the sky!!

And in the same time, you yet managed to give us back the white text notifications? Nerf your hotfixes!!!

Arsenic_Touch

Izzban wrote: »

I don't know how many players WERE affected, nor do you, incase you think you do, because the ONLY evidence was one player saying he had poor FPS. That is the evidence to the contrary in this thread. One player said he had low FPS. That is what I responded to. You don't make a judgement based on one player.

I have no idea what Monday has to do with this.

You are simply attacking anyone who doesn't jump on your bandwagon of bashing the devs.

Actually, I do know. It's all over the forum, it's all over in game. It's all over reddit. Nice try bending over backwards to defend the developers for their shoddy work though.

Nice job jumping down the guy's throat and acting slighted when someone throws it back in your face. I am simply calling out someone who has no idea what they're talking about, not attacking anyone that doesn't jump on the bandwagon of dev bashing.

So keep up the great work, you really are on a roll here.

williamburr2001b14_ESO

Mablung wrote: »

This tells me the devs are currently clueless about the source of the problem. I hope they figure it out soon, and learn from this for next content upgrade.

This tells me their QA process consists of methods we have never heard of before. [/quote]

http://youtu.be/inR02pEesCQ

ferzalrwb17_ESO

I'm not sure who made the game we played in beta or at launch. It's amazing how fondly I look back at that buggy mess. Because it was a beautifully fun, buggy mess that ran as smooth as silk.

The devs have managed, in 2 updates, to turn that game into an unplayable mess that runs like a slug in glue. That is a damn fine effort. I wouldn't pay these guys to code "hello world".

How many of you are really gullible enough to think they have the slightest clue how to fix this? C'mon now. Hands up. I've got some stuff you might like to buy.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Man... they said they were rolling out a hotfix to help with FPS asap yesterday guess some people have no reason to read updates on the 1.2.3 known issues thread.

Cogo

Mablung wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Funny - what you choose to chime in on. When can we expect a rollback Jessica?

We have been responding. The most we can offer as an answer right now is that we're continuing to work on fixing the FPS drop issue. As soon as we're able to provide a concrete date for a full resolution, we will.

Thank you.

bitaken wrote: »

Funny - what you choose to chime in on. When can we expect a rollback Jessica?

She has been responding just read any of the multiple threads or hit the green dev/mod circle next to a relevant post and you will see the response.

Nice reply.

I could not reply to these posts without getting myself banned.
Thanks

Aeradon

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Inimicus wrote: »

How about this one, then?

http://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/195

We're always hiring here, especially as we prepare to support console. QA is no exception.

Pretty sure your QA did a very good job! Tell them to keep up the good work!

Pre 1.2.3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1o12qsPG8s&list=UUUikJl473wYeflvJhDP85ow

Post 1.2.4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irbdQQjVX3o&list=UUUikJl473wYeflvJhDP85ow

sylviermoone

firstdecan wrote: »

It wasn't announced because Zenimax was hacked. All your glyphs will be compromised.

LOL. "All of your glyphs are belong to us!"

Kiwi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ZkJd4u0Us

NekOnOkO

MichaelShimmel wrote: »

Funny how at Launch My main guild had 224 people in it. a few got trimmed for one reason or another after 1 week we were at 190 today we have 7 active subs, 2 of those are only still active because we fronted 6months.
I really wish I did not buy 6 months time right off the bat, but in my defense the first few day it seemed like they were really just start up bugs, they will fix them. Today I really think they are making more than fixing.

Well, we had ~350 active players in our RvR-alliance at any given time (except night-morning) at release. Now 33 at prime-time only and half of them decided not to renew their sub. Plethora of bugs, lacking end-game and kinda unplayable Cyrodiil... can't see anything worth paying for in TESO atm.

ArconSeptim

Nothing changed, still slow loading of environment objects, and when you get in some major city like Dagerfall everything becomes slideshow, you can't see any effects animation anything! -.- even those damn invisible mobs and aoe etc. nothing fixed I'm telling you rollback before craglorn settings!

Aeradon

NekOnOkO wrote: »

MichaelShimmel wrote: »

Funny how at Launch My main guild had 224 people in it. a few got trimmed for one reason or another after 1 week we were at 190 today we have 7 active subs, 2 of those are only still active because we fronted 6months.
I really wish I did not buy 6 months time right off the bat, but in my defense the first few day it seemed like they were really just start up bugs, they will fix them. Today I really think they are making more than fixing.

Well, we had ~350 active players in our RvR-alliance at any given time (except night-morning) at release. Now 33 at prime-time only and half of them decided not to renew their sub. Plethora of bugs, lacking end-game and kinda unplayable Cyrodiil... can't see anything worth paying for in TESO atm.

Since launch, I was in 3 guilds with average 300 players each. All were shut down when the actives were only 11-13 players at prime time. Moved on to new guilds, trading guild with 380 players, active enchanting guild with 499 players and constant kick within 3 days of inactivity, PVP guild with 220 players, all dwindle down to less than 20 in prime time as of Craglorn, we decided to move on and venture our own, bump into some active players, and now I'm with 100 player trading guild that has only 5 actives, 13 player once active friend guild that is left with only me and another, 2 awesome guilds with 1 month kick system that could only maintain at 200 max no matter how many they recruit, PVP guild with 90 players 30 prime time of which most have unsubbed waiting for fixes.

Not to mention the current ones are cross faction guilds as compared to previous faction only guilds.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

Izzban wrote: »

crislevin wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

I just downloaded this hotfix.

I am still dropping to 4 fps in PvP combat.

I am still dying before I even see enemies on the screen.

I am hoping with all of my heart this wasn't the hotfix they were talking about to fix the FPS issue, because the game is still unplayable in Cyrodiil for me.

This tells me the devs are currently clueless about the source of the problem. I hope they figure it out soon, and learn from this for next content upgrade.

The fact that you think the fact that FPS is down for one person in Cyrodiil means the devs are clueless leads me to believe that you are clueless about pretty much anything concerning software development, networking, and game development.

IT is not for everyone and it's NOT fashionable to bash the devs, whichever fits best.

OT, I was also surprised by this patch. My guess is they caught an exploit and are fixing it

Instead of dealing with semantics concentrate on following - for some people game is unplayable. If it is unplayable for you- would u be that clinical as u are right now ? And about bashing devs - if they said two times they got it and they will fix it and still problem persists what would be then expected reaction from people who cant play ? Its simple - if they work good for them - if they read these forums then they can read people opinion on their results of work. To explain u with what we are dealing here - i am exchanging mails with CS regarding my ticket and i am explaining to them that fps is not just cyrodiil problem and after 5th mail they still didnt get that simple fact. Still while they communicate with me they speak about cyrodiil fps issue. General remarks usually dont do justice but if i want to sublime my emotons about their organisation , skill level and system in general - i would say just - incompetent.

Ojustaboo

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Caduryn wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just wanted to give you a quick update on the FPS issue. We've identified what's causing this, and are working on a hotfix now that we'll get out as soon as we can. We'll let you know as soon as it's been rolled out. Thanks for your patience while we hammered on this one, we know it's been frustrating.

Your really really really sure you identified really the real issue this time? ^^

We're testing it out now to make sure it'll be fixed. For real this time.

I read the above yesterday, when I read that, then read what Zenimax say in this thread, I would be lying if I said it didn't give me the impression they are a little out of their depth

Brizz

Vote for a rollback - and this patch to be PTR tested as it should have been here:
- http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116657/should-zos-rollback-to-1-2-2-and-ptr-1-2-3-1-2-4-until-it-is-working#latest

ArconSeptim

Seems that those 10% of people who actually "enjoy" the game are listened to from Zenimax side, that's not good if you continue like that keep those 10% of your players. goodbye,

SFBryan18

Ironic how comments joke about the developers not communicating with them in a tone which kind of shows why they don't.

suelothvar

Ok im confused, I see vids of people with almost zero frame rate, bitching at the lack of fps, yet can plainly see they have everything on Max still... now I also have fps drop, but wow guess what, if you turn off sun light, shadows and grass, it only drops to about 20, rather than single didgits (works for me)

it aint so pretty, but you can at least play and get your kill on, untill it's fixed.

Mablung

suelothvar wrote: »

Ok im confused, I see vids of people with almost zero frame rate, bitching at the lack of fps, yet can plainly see they have everything on Max still... now I also have fps drop, but wow guess what, if you turn off sun light, shadows and grass, it only drops to about 20, rather than single didgits (works for me)

it aint so pretty, but you can at least play and get your kill on, untill it's fixed.

Why should this be a solution for players? Part of the pleasure for most players is being able to play the game in all of its beautiful, graphical glory. Players are not the cause for the FPS issues. Their systems are not the cause for the FPS issues. So suggesting that the players resolve the issue is not the solution.

ArconSeptim

ARE YOU DEF BLIND? PEOPLE LOWER THEIR SETTINGS TO LOWEST AND STILL HAVE LOW FPS NO MATTER WHICH PC YOU HAVE

suelothvar

Im not saying its a fix, im saying it's helped me at least play atm, yet see constant vids on max settings.. I would much preffer my max settings with lots of fps, like outside cyrodil, but this works for me as a temp answer, rather than bleat here at being unable to even play.

isengrimb16_ESO

Sylvyr wrote: »

Ya'll are approaching this totally wrong. You're focussing on that small little thing just a handful of people care about - PvP.

What you need to do is go into the major town in your zone, find a nice big church or guild hall that has cool windows. Now go inside and check out the new lighting effects and[snip]
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Maybe if there's an exodus of PvPers, the devs can focus not on silly "class balance", but on balancing players vs monsters in vet content.

(The people who complain that WoW classes are now very homogenized can thank PvP for that.)

Mablung

suelothvar wrote: »

Im not saying its a fix, im saying it's helped me at least play atm, yet see constant vids on max settings.. I would much preffer my max settings with lots of fps, like outside cyrodil, but this works for me as a temp answer, rather than bleat here at being unable to even play.

Good of you to lower your standards and play the game at a sub par level. It's your dollar but you should not suggest people do the same. It is not a fix, not even temporary.

Razour

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We just finished pushing a hotfix for the FPS issue. We've done as much as we can in a hotfix to alleviate the issue. The impact will vary—you may see noticeable improvements or marginal ones. This is by no means a final or complete fix to the issue, but we felt it important to do what we could in the short term now.

We’re continuing to work on performance improvements that we’ll roll out in upcoming patches. We’ll keep you updated as we make more progress, and we thank you for your patience.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌

Is there anyway that you can give a clearer indication of what circumstances should be improved by the hotfix and which ones won't be. Some figures on the kind of fps improvements that could be expected would also be helpful.

For example when I land in Cyrodiil my fps drops to ~10fps and just as soon as I get into combat it drops to ~3fps. What should I now expect as a result of this hotfix?

I'd hope that even if the Dev team can't share details of what they've done then at least the QA team should be able to provide details of the results of the change(s) based on their testing.

Rylana

I wish I had more to add at this point, but I actually feel rather weary now =/

Trelia

I've turned off everything that i can, and disabled all my add-ons just in case, my graphic settings are all on low and i still drop to 2-5 fps in Cyrodiil. I wish that this was a fix to the problem because the PvP is by far, for me anyway, the best part of the game.

Darzil

Cogo wrote: »

its kinda sad that a very similar discussion like this, is going on at Reddit. But unlike here, players are testing, rebooting after hotfix, testing tips and have now a lot less problems then yesterday.

Why cant we here, discuss and help to make our game better. Instead of bickering?

Sounds great. Any chance of starting by linking to the relevant bit of Reddit?
It might be here: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/29k004/for_those_having_delayfps_issues_in_pve_zones/

Worth noting that most people seemed to find it a temporary improvement only in reducing the delay before seeing things issue.