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Imperial Motif---really worth 125k gold?

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  • kitsinni
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    On the other it isn't worth that because you can always find one for sale for 50k or so.
  • Scarletblaze
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    Nymirah wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    It's worth a 1,000,000 gold if someone pays that much, just like art.

    Exactly, worth is a dynamic concept... and with general reference to the sale of goods or services, something is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it.

    I agree with you both...but please justify why this playable race motif, even to those who need instant gratification or gold to burn, is worth so much? This is a game item, not art hehehe. Comparing art with this particular motif is not the best analogy, in my opinion. Besides, players who are insanely rich would be smarter than to spend that much gold on this item....except the people who buy gold from sellers =(
    Edited by Scarletblaze on July 1, 2014 6:54PM
  • Phantax
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Nymirah wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    It's worth a 1,000,000 gold if someone pays that much, just like art.

    Exactly, worth is a dynamic concept... and with general reference to the sale of goods or services, something is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it.

    I agree with you both...but please justify why this playable race motif, even to those who need instant gratification or gold to burn, is worth so much? This is a game item, not art hehehe. Comparing art with this particular motif is not the best analogy, in my opinion.

    Because its so rare to find. If people were finding 10 a week (like the blue motifs) it would only be worth 1200-1500 the same. Its the rarest item in the game, hence the highest price !
    What's not to understand ?

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  • ItsMeToo
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Nymirah wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    It's worth a 1,000,000 gold if someone pays that much, just like art.

    Exactly, worth is a dynamic concept... and with general reference to the sale of goods or services, something is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it.

    I agree with you both...but please justify why this playable race motif, even to those who need instant gratification or gold to burn, is worth so much? This is a game item, not art hehehe. Comparing art with this particular motif is not the best analogy, in my opinion.

    Should I have used the car example? Same result.
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  • Food4Thought
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    Is it worth it?

    Depends I suppose.

    I think everyday I play I see somebody trying to sell the rarer 11 - 14 motifs. As for the bottom 9 ... they are so common you almost can't even give them away.

    As for Imperial ...

    It has been a couple of weeks since I have seen anybody try to sell one. It is very rare indeed that I do see one up for grabs.
  • Scarletblaze
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    **In addition, the MAJORITY of players with upgrade can make an Imperial toon and CRAFT Imperial style armor----TO SELL TO OTHER PLAYERS.

    **If a player only has the standard edition, they could easily ask a buddy/guildmate/zone to CRAFT that style of armor (since bulk of players have imperial edition), thus avoiding the need to spend 125k gold for motif.

    I would appreciate feedback/responses to justify paying that much gold.

    Thank you!

    (Please respond to this question without stating the obvious: item worth is subjective to player, people have gold to burn, etc. This thread is to discuss/share opinions about this particular item.)

  • kitsinni
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    I have seen one for 60, one for 55, two for 50 and one for 45 in the last three days not that rare.
  • ItsMeToo
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    **In addition, the MAJORITY of players with upgrade can make an Imperial toon and CRAFT Imperial style armor----TO SELL TO OTHER PLAYERS.

    **If a player only has the standard edition, they could easily ask a buddy/guildmate/zone to CRAFT that style of armor (since bulk of players have imperial edition), thus avoiding the need to spend 125k gold for motif.

    I would appreciate feedback/responses to justify paying that much gold.

    Thank you!

    (Please respond to this question without stating the obvious: item worth is subjective to player, people have gold to burn, etc. This thread is to discuss/share opinions about this particular item.)

    Okay, you don't want our opinions. Then just post yours and let the thread die. That's okay by me.
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    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

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  • Scarletblaze
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    No, not discouraging opinions. Just want more detailed answers besides the obvious reasons. =)

    Would you pay 20k-125k for a PLAYABLE race motif? If you saw a guild mate spend that much gold for this particular item, would you stop them? How about if they were about to buy it from you?

  • Scarletblaze
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    kitsinni wrote: »
    I have seen one for 60, one for 55, two for 50 and one for 45 in the last three days not that rare.

    Would you personally sell this item for that much or buy it? If so/not then why?

  • Scarletblaze
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    Food4Thought wrote: »
    Is it worth it?

    Depends I suppose.

    I think everyday I play I see somebody trying to sell the rarer 11 - 14 motifs. As for the bottom 9 ... they are so common you almost can't even give them away.

    As for Imperial ...

    It has been a couple of weeks since I have seen anybody try to sell one. It is very rare indeed that I do see one up for grabs.

    Would you sell/buy this particular item (Imperial Motif) for an insane amount of gold?

  • ItsMeToo
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    I don't even buy items from vendors. I like to find my items. So, even 1 gold is too much to pay.

    I do have a very great Guild and a nice Guild Bank and no, we are not recruiting at this time.
    Edited by ItsMeToo on July 1, 2014 7:12PM
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    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
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    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • someuser
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Ok, I'm going to give you a big boy answer.

    Items in game (and in real life) are worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. Period. It's not rocket science.

    If your assumption, that most everybody owns the Imperial Edition, was true I doubt that motif would be selling for so much.

    Here is food for thought:

    The game has been out for 3ish months now. A lot of people who signed on in April with their Imperial Editions have quit. I guarantee you that there is a sizable segment of the community who does not have access to the Imperial line... People *ahem kids and unemployed adults* who have a lot of gold *ahem time* on their hands. If you have 100s of thousands of gold in your account it isn't a big deal to drop 60k ish on the Imperial Motif. What the hell else are you going to use all that gold on?

    125k does seem steep, I'll give you that, but unless you're whining because you want that motif and don't have the Imperial Edition then why do you care??
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  • joshisanonymous
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    MasterSpatula wrote: »
    That's a stupidly-high price for it. I'm not shocked, though, because it's stupidly rare.

    It's idiotic for Imperial to be the rarest motif, and you and I both know that the only reason it's that rare is to direct more players into buying the Imperial Edition.

    I personally see this as perhaps the single sleaziest decision ZOS has made. And this nonsense is a repugnant side-effect of that sleazy decision.

    This is a rather cynical way to look at it.

    Alternatively, it's so rare because they don't want to trivialize the bonuses that people who already bought the Imperial Edition paid for. That would anger quite a few people, I'm sure.

    I doubt there are many people who upgrade to the Imperial Edition and I also highly doubt that anyone who buys the Imperial Edition right off the bat is thinking, "I better get this version, because I don't want to have to spend 100k on an Imperial motif somewhere down the line."
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  • Scarletblaze
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    someuser wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Ok, I'm going to give you a big boy answer.

    Items in game (and in real life) are worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. Period. It's not rocket science.

    If your assumption, that most everybody owns the Imperial Edition, was true I doubt that motif would be selling for so much.

    Here is food for thought:

    The game has been out for 3ish months now. A lot of people who signed on in April with their Imperial Editions have quit. I guarantee you that there is a sizable segment of the community who does not have access to the Imperial line... People *ahem kids and unemployed adults* who have a lot of gold *ahem time* on their hands. If you have 100s of thousands of gold in your account it isn't a big deal to drop 60k ish on the Imperial Motif. What the hell else are you going to use all that gold on?

    125k does seem steep, I'll give you that, but unless you're whining because you want that motif and don't have the Imperial Edition then why do you care??

    If you are going to quote, please use the entire original post so that people understand the context of the original question. =)

    Also, this is not a whining post; simply soliciting my fellow adventurers as to why this particular item is being sold/bought for an outrageous price.
    If you refer to original post (the part of post you omitted) you will understand why I posed that question. I don't want/need motif since I can already craft this armor type with my own Imperial toon and sell it for profit.
    Edited by Scarletblaze on July 1, 2014 7:26PM
  • SirAndy
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k?
    It's worth what people will pay for it. Asking price is *not* the same as selling price.

    We have one in our guild store for 15k right now and nobody has bought it yet ...
    ;-)
  • Arthur_Spoonfondle
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    A rare item is worth whatever people are prepared to pay for it. If someone is daft enough to pay 125K for it, then that is their problem, just as long as long as the buyer doesn't finance the purchase by buying gold from gold sellers.
  • andreas.rudroffb16_ESO
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    that description flaw is still active (see in shop - upgrade imperial edition)
    Edited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on July 1, 2014 7:31PM
  • someuser
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    If you are going to quote, please use the entire original post so that people understand the context of the original question. =)

    Also, this is not a whining post; simply soliciting my fellow adventurers as to why this particular item is being sold/bought for an outrageous price.
    If you refer to original post (the part of post you omitted) you will understand why I posed that question. I don't want/need motif since I can already craft this armor type with my own Imperial toon and sell it for profit.

    I omitted the worthless parts... the parts where I wasted time that I'm never going to get back...

    And it is a whining post. You don't want one (Imperial Motif), yet you are complaining about how much they cost. Again, why do you care? What is it that is really bothering you??

    I see people trying to sell stuff all the time for stupid crazy prices... yet I have yet to make a single thread on it. Why? Because what does it matter??????? I'm not going to buy it.
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  • arena25
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    Hello, friends.

    I just want to say if I get Imperial motif, I'm gonna sell it for an extremely high price. Maybe 100K, but when you're talking selling a gold colored item, you're talking some big bucks here.

    Why do you think the purple ones are selling for 20K or even 25K? Rarity has a direct impact on the price of an item. If it's Gold, expect a fortune in your future. If it's purple, still a small fortune. Blue, maybe not as big of a profit, but some serious coin still, especially for low level players.

    Goodbye.

    Signed,

    Shedelin
    Scribe to Arena25

    P.S. I understand you can buy Imperial Edition, but it costs $20 extra. This one will not pay $20, even if his highness, Arena25, thinks its a good idea.
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  • Scarletblaze
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    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    With all of the Imperial white horses running around (they can craft on an imperial character), why not ask in guild/zone/buddy to craft you a set? Would be much cheaper than shelling out so much gold....for a PLAYABLE RACE armor style =P
    Edited by Scarletblaze on July 1, 2014 7:33PM
  • Scarletblaze
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    arena25 wrote: »
    Hello, friends.

    I just want to say if I get Imperial motif, I'm gonna sell it for an extremely high price. Maybe 100K, but when you're talking selling a gold colored item, you're talking some big bucks here.

    Why do you think the purple ones are selling for 20K or even 25K? Rarity has a direct impact on the price of an item. If it's Gold, expect a fortune in your future. If it's purple, still a small fortune. Blue, maybe not as big of a profit, but some serious coin still, especially for low level players.

    Goodbye.

    Signed,

    Shedelin
    Scribe to Arena25

    P.S. I understand you can buy Imperial Edition, but it costs $20 extra. This one will not pay $20, even if his highness, Arena25, thinks its a good idea.

    So what you are saying is the only reason people are buying this 'yellow' item at such a high price (this is a playable race motif---like nords) is because of it's rarity? It's not rare if the majority of players have the Imperial edition (note the several white horse mounts players have). Is it easier to just ask someone to craft you a set or spend 20k+ on a playable race motif?

    Just because this item is yellow, is it truly worth that much gold?
  • andreas.rudroffb16_ESO
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    With all of the Imperial white horses running around (they can craft on an imperial character), why not ask in guild/zone/buddy to craft you a set? Would be much cheaper than shelling out so much gold....for a PLAYABLE RACE armor style =P

    no they cant

    imperial horse is not race bound

    imperial crafting IS bound to play imperial as a race
    made serveral tickets ... never got a response ... just false advertising

    Edited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on July 1, 2014 7:45PM
  • Kalman
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    No it's not all motifs are overpriced.
  • andreas.rudroffb16_ESO
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    just farm them in Coldhaven
  • Scarletblaze
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    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    With all of the Imperial white horses running around (they can craft on an imperial character), why not ask in guild/zone/buddy to craft you a set? Would be much cheaper than shelling out so much gold....for a PLAYABLE RACE armor style =P

    no they cant

    imperial horse is not race bound

    imperial crafting IS bound to play imperial as a race
    made serveral tickets ... never got a response ... just false advertising

    Okay, the white horses running around indicates that player as an owner of IE giving them access to create an imperial character in which to craft imperial armor without a motif. If you do not have IE, why spend a ton of gold on that motif, rare or not, when you can ask someone riding a white horse to craft it free?
    Edited by Scarletblaze on July 1, 2014 7:50PM
  • andreas.rudroffb16_ESO
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    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    With all of the Imperial white horses running around (they can craft on an imperial character), why not ask in guild/zone/buddy to craft you a set? Would be much cheaper than shelling out so much gold....for a PLAYABLE RACE armor style =P

    no they cant

    imperial horse is not race bound

    imperial crafting IS bound to play imperial as a race
    made serveral tickets ... never got a response ... just false advertising

    Okay, the white horses running around indicates that player as an owner of IE giving them access to create an imperial character in which to craft imperial armor without a motif. If you do not have IE, why spend a ton of gold on that motif, rare or not, when you can ask someone to craft it free?

    remember you have to level crafting and traits on THAT CHAR

    (about 100 skillpoints for a full craft and 300 Days for traits)
    Edited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on July 1, 2014 7:50PM
  • arena25
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    Scarletblaze, most people will still ask for a heavy price. Sir Arena25 is part of the guild Craftaholics and Craftaholics United, and while they sell things to other guildies at reduced prices, no one gets a free set of Imperial. In fact, it still costs the average guildie 5K gold. This one can only imagine how much it will commend if a guildie of the above mentioned guild sold it to a nonguildie.

    Well? What price would it commend?

    Signed,

    Shedelin
    Scribe to Arena25

    P.S. This one does understands your argument, ScarletBlaze. But, this one must also ask, "Which would you rather pay? $20 or up to 125K gold (and at least 5K gold, which according to Lord Arena25, took him until level 12 to do).
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  • Fairydragon3
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    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    With all of the Imperial white horses running around (they can craft on an imperial character), why not ask in guild/zone/buddy to craft you a set? Would be much cheaper than shelling out so much gold....for a PLAYABLE RACE armor style =P

    no they cant

    imperial horse is not race bound

    imperial crafting IS bound to play imperial as a race
    made serveral tickets ... never got a response ... just false advertising

    Okay, the white horses running around indicates that player as an owner of IE giving them access to create an imperial character in which to craft imperial armor without a motif. If you do not have IE, why spend a ton of gold on that motif, rare or not, when you can ask someone to craft it free?

    remember you have to level crafting and traits on THAT CHAR

    (about 100 skillpoints for a full craft and 300 Days for traits)

    yup, im almost done with woodworking, but cloth/metalwork is going to take more time, since there are more items to research, but have to research at the same rate
  • Scarletblaze
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    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »
    Scarletblaze wrote: »
    Hello =)

    Is the Imperial Motif really worth 125k? I understand that it is considered a very rare drop, but is it truly worth all that gold?

    Please consider the following before responding to this post:

    **The MAJORITY of players upgraded to the Imperial Edition giving them access to convert most items to Imperial Style--free, but makes items bound to their account.

    Zenimax forgot to mention that you can only craft Imperial Gear (not bound) if you play Imperial

    so .... everyone with even IE needs that motive if he plays "what he wants" like me

    With all of the Imperial white horses running around (they can craft on an imperial character), why not ask in guild/zone/buddy to craft you a set? Would be much cheaper than shelling out so much gold....for a PLAYABLE RACE armor style =P

    no they cant

    imperial horse is not race bound

    imperial crafting IS bound to play imperial as a race
    made serveral tickets ... never got a response ... just false advertising

    Okay, the white horses running around indicates that player as an owner of IE giving them access to create an imperial character in which to craft imperial armor without a motif. If you do not have IE, why spend a ton of gold on that motif, rare or not, when you can ask someone to craft it free?

    remember you have to level crafting and traits on THAT CHAR

    (about 100 skillpoints for a full craft and 300 Days for traits)

    I understand that =)
    However, how many players do you think are already imperial, but bought the motif anyways? Also, how many players buy the non playable race motif (ae/barbaric/daedric/primal) only to realize AFTER they learn that motif, they can't even craft it due to needing to be a high level crafter? So if you learn Imperial motif, those same requirements don't apply?
    Edited by Scarletblaze on July 1, 2014 8:01PM
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