It seems ZoS customer service has hit an all time low.

SratPrincess

Over the past few days, I've seen several threads pop up about players using hacks in PvP. Some of them mentioned names, others didn't. However, ALL of them were either closed or deleted by mods. Some of the mods even said that they closed the threads due to the posters "Demanding" action. Well yeah, if people are hacking, I think it's acceptable to want something done asap.

It seems you have more rights if you cheat in this game as opposed to playing clean. I think ZoS will be seen as a complete joke in the gaming community after their terrible handling of ESO.

Slash8915

Don't expect this thread to stay open or even up for long.

Mablung

SratPrincess wrote: »

Over the past few days, I've seen several threads pop up about players using hacks in PvP. Some of them mentioned names, others didn't. However, ALL of them were either closed or deleted by mods. Some of the mods even said that they closed the threads due to the posters "Demanding" action. Well yeah, if people are hacking, I think it's acceptable to want something done asap.

It seems you have more rights if you cheat in this game as opposed to playing clean. I think ZoS will be seen as a complete joke in the gaming community after their terrible handling of ESO.

Naming and shaming is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Discussing specifics of an exploit is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Threads like the ones you describe that do not break the FCoC are closed due to independent interpretation of the FCoC.

I want to say more but cannot because it would break the Forum Code of Conduct.

Slash8915

Mablung wrote: »

SratPrincess wrote: »

Over the past few days, I've seen several threads pop up about players using hacks in PvP. Some of them mentioned names, others didn't. However, ALL of them were either closed or deleted by mods. Some of the mods even said that they closed the threads due to the posters "Demanding" action. Well yeah, if people are hacking, I think it's acceptable to want something done asap.

It seems you have more rights if you cheat in this game as opposed to playing clean. I think ZoS will be seen as a complete joke in the gaming community after their terrible handling of ESO.

Naming and shaming is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Discussing specifics of an exploit is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Threads like the ones you describe that do not break the FCoC are closed due to independent interpretation of the FCoC.

I want to say more but cannot because it would break the Forum Code of Conduct.

Watch out... Smileys could be seen as being against the FCoC...

Arsenic_Touch

This thread is looking a little grey.

zgrssd

SratPrincess wrote: »

Over the past few days, I've seen several threads pop up about players using hacks in PvP. Some of them mentioned names, others didn't. However, ALL of them were either closed or deleted by mods. Some of the mods even said that they closed the threads due to the posters "Demanding" action. Well yeah, if people are hacking, I think it's acceptable to want something done asap.

They are working on it as fast as they can. They are not making this extra slow just to annoy you, you know?

They just had a content patch and those usually break a decent amount of stuff. In every MMO. This is not worse then what happened after 1.1.
In latest 1 month nobody will even remember the isues we had after 1.2.3 untill we remind people that cry "worst patch ever!"´.

Slash8915

I'm going to claim this as the official "Five star guys only" thread. OP, get out of here.

Edit: Damnit, zgrssd... You screwed it all up.

SratPrincess

zgrssd wrote: »

SratPrincess wrote: »

Over the past few days, I've seen several threads pop up about players using hacks in PvP. Some of them mentioned names, others didn't. However, ALL of them were either closed or deleted by mods. Some of the mods even said that they closed the threads due to the posters "Demanding" action. Well yeah, if people are hacking, I think it's acceptable to want something done asap.

They are working on it as fast as they can. They are not making this extra slow just to annoy you, you know?

They just had a content patch and those usually break a decent amount of stuff. In every MMO. This is not worse then what happened after 1.1.
In latest 1 month nobody will even remember the isues we had after 1.2.3 untill we remind people that cry "worst patch ever!"´.

That's not the point entirely. The main issue is that the mods are treating people that are reporting it like they are criminals.

kirnmalidus

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Fairydragon3

Slash8915 wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

SratPrincess wrote: »

Over the past few days, I've seen several threads pop up about players using hacks in PvP. Some of them mentioned names, others didn't. However, ALL of them were either closed or deleted by mods. Some of the mods even said that they closed the threads due to the posters "Demanding" action. Well yeah, if people are hacking, I think it's acceptable to want something done asap.

It seems you have more rights if you cheat in this game as opposed to playing clean. I think ZoS will be seen as a complete joke in the gaming community after their terrible handling of ESO.

Naming and shaming is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Discussing specifics of an exploit is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Threads like the ones you describe that do not break the FCoC are closed due to independent interpretation of the FCoC.

I want to say more but cannot because it would break the Forum Code of Conduct.

Watch out... Smileys could be seen as being against the FCoC...

Watch out...watching out is also a breach of FCoC, and they might request your mandatory participation in their human centIpad project.....YOU AGREED TO THE TERMS AND SERVICES!

Slash8915

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

Fairydragon3

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

NOPE because in reality you have no prof, only speculation. Remember when people were report Mist walkers because of the way the game was behaving when vamps used that ability.

We are not the judge and jury, if anything by complaining about how you can't call them out, that puts you in the position as the guy with the pitch fork in this Flamming mob known as the forums

Edit BTW I'm 4 stars as of 4 days ago. WHAT NOW SON! WHAT WHAT!

kewl

Mablung wrote: »

Naming and shaming is against the Forum Code of Conduct. Discussing specifics of an exploit is against the Forum Code of Conduct. Threads like the ones you describe that do not break the FCoC are closed due to independent interpretation of the FCoC. I want to say more but cannot because it would break the Forum Code of Conduct.

You are a funny guy @Mablung, +5 bacon for you.

nerevarine1138

There is no game forum anywhere that lets you name and shame.

Report players in-game if you suspect them of hacking/botting. There's no need to post here.

Mablung

kewl wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

Naming and shaming is against the Forum Code of Conduct. Discussing specifics of an exploit is against the Forum Code of Conduct. Threads like the ones you describe that do not break the FCoC are closed due to independent interpretation of the FCoC. I want to say more but cannot because it would break the Forum Code of Conduct.

You are a funny guy @Mablung, +5 bacon for you.

I like bacon.

Slash8915

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

NOPE because in reality you have no prof, only speculation. Remember when people were report Mist walkers because of the way the game was behaving when vamps used that ability.

We are not the judge and jury, if anything by complaining about how you can't call them out, that puts you in the position as the guy with the pitch fork in this Flamming mob known as the forums

Eh... I see where you're coming from and I agree to an extent. But when it's obvious someone IS hacking, I don't care if they get their feelings hurt.

Huckdabuck

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

This thread is looking a little grey.

Agreed!

nerevarine1138

Slash8915 wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

NOPE because in reality you have no prof, only speculation. Remember when people were report Mist walkers because of the way the game was behaving when vamps used that ability.

We are not the judge and jury, if anything by complaining about how you can't call them out, that puts you in the position as the guy with the pitch fork in this Flamming mob known as the forums

Eh... I see where you're coming from and I agree to an extent. But when it's obvious someone IS hacking, I don't care if they get their feelings hurt.

You don't know when someone is hacking.

I had another player tell me I was hacking because of the display bug that happened on sneaking.

You have no idea whether someone else is hacking, and you have no right to try starting up a witch-hunt on the forums. There is an in-game system. Using anything else is just attention-seeking behavior.

Slash8915

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

NOPE because in reality you have no prof, only speculation. Remember when people were report Mist walkers because of the way the game was behaving when vamps used that ability.

We are not the judge and jury, if anything by complaining about how you can't call them out, that puts you in the position as the guy with the pitch fork in this Flamming mob known as the forums

Eh... I see where you're coming from and I agree to an extent. But when it's obvious someone IS hacking, I don't care if they get their feelings hurt.

You don't know when someone is hacking.

I had another player tell me I was hacking because of the display bug that happened on sneaking.

You have no idea whether someone else is hacking, and you have no right to try starting up a witch-hunt on the forums. There is an in-game system. Using anything else is just attention-seeking behavior.

When someone hits several VR12's for 2k with a heavy attack, even when blocking... I think that's a pretty good indicator. Oh, and...

[img][/img]

nerevarine1138

Slash8915 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

NOPE because in reality you have no prof, only speculation. Remember when people were report Mist walkers because of the way the game was behaving when vamps used that ability.

We are not the judge and jury, if anything by complaining about how you can't call them out, that puts you in the position as the guy with the pitch fork in this Flamming mob known as the forums

Eh... I see where you're coming from and I agree to an extent. But when it's obvious someone IS hacking, I don't care if they get their feelings hurt.

You don't know when someone is hacking.

I had another player tell me I was hacking because of the display bug that happened on sneaking.

You have no idea whether someone else is hacking, and you have no right to try starting up a witch-hunt on the forums. There is an in-game system. Using anything else is just attention-seeking behavior.

When someone hits several VR12's for 2k with a heavy attack, even when blocking... I think that's a pretty good indicator. Oh, and...

[img][/img]

It's true, we are very buff.

But again, there's no way to know what's happening without having the tools the GMs and developers have access to. They can look at playlogs and determine who is actively using exploits, bots, etc. You simply don't have that information available, and as rational as you may be, most people don't name and shame because they've taken their time and thought things through.

Fairydragon3

Slash8915 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

NOPE because in reality you have no prof, only speculation. Remember when people were report Mist walkers because of the way the game was behaving when vamps used that ability.

We are not the judge and jury, if anything by complaining about how you can't call them out, that puts you in the position as the guy with the pitch fork in this Flamming mob known as the forums

Eh... I see where you're coming from and I agree to an extent. But when it's obvious someone IS hacking, I don't care if they get their feelings hurt.

You don't know when someone is hacking.

I had another player tell me I was hacking because of the display bug that happened on sneaking.

You have no idea whether someone else is hacking, and you have no right to try starting up a witch-hunt on the forums. There is an in-game system. Using anything else is just attention-seeking behavior.

When someone hits several VR12's for 2k with a heavy attack, even when blocking... I think that's a pretty good indicator. Oh, and...

[img][/img]

as a 4 star.....awwwww

ZOS_AlanG

Discussions of hacks and exploits may be taken off of the forums to prevent the means of preforming these acts from spreading. It's fine to alert us to the fact that people are using an exploit, but an explanation of how (even a partial one) will be removed from the public forums and the discussion kept private.

Naming and shaming is also against the rules, which may result in a thread being closed and/or that content being edited out. Additionally, we do not allow discussion of private moderation actions, although any such concerns can be PMed to us.

Out of respect for everyone's privacy, we won't discuss disciplinary actions or other private moderation with other individuals. However, if someone is concerned about general behavior, or has examples of public moderation they wish to discuss, we are happy to talk about it.

While it would probably be better for this thread to be taken to private channels, we aren't going to lock it right now. Please make sure you keep any further discussion on topic, civil and within the rules.

Edit: tweaked somewhat to improve clarity

Slash8915

It's ok. We are compa

ZOS_AlanG wrote: »

Discussions of hacks and exploits may be taken off of the forums to prevent the means of preforming these acts from spreading. It's fine to alert us to the fact that people are using an exploit, but an explanation of how (even a partial one) will be removed from the public forums and the discussion kept private.

Naming and shaming is also against the rules, which may result in a thread being closed and/or that content being edited out. Additionally, we do not allow discussion of specific moderation actions, although any such concerns can be PMed to us.

Out of respect for everyone's privacy, we won't discuss disciplinary actions or other private moderation. However, if someone is concerned about general behavior, or has examples of public moderation they wish to discuss, we are happy to talk about it.

While it would probably be better for this thread to be taken to private channels, we aren't going to lock it right now. Please make sure you keep any further discussion on topic, civil and within the rules.

Funny how when the thread is ABOUT you guys closing threads, you're not so quick to close it. ;P

nerevarine1138

Slash8915 wrote: »

It's ok. We are compa

ZOS_AlanG wrote: »

Discussions of hacks and exploits may be taken off of the forums to prevent the means of preforming these acts from spreading. It's fine to alert us to the fact that people are using an exploit, but an explanation of how (even a partial one) will be removed from the public forums and the discussion kept private.

Naming and shaming is also against the rules, which may result in a thread being closed and/or that content being edited out. Additionally, we do not allow discussion of specific moderation actions, although any such concerns can be PMed to us.

Out of respect for everyone's privacy, we won't discuss disciplinary actions or other private moderation. However, if someone is concerned about general behavior, or has examples of public moderation they wish to discuss, we are happy to talk about it.

While it would probably be better for this thread to be taken to private channels, we aren't going to lock it right now. Please make sure you keep any further discussion on topic, civil and within the rules.

Funny how when the thread is ABOUT you guys closing threads, you're not so quick to closing it. ;P

I think he just agrees that 5-star members are super buff and good looking.

SirAndy

Slash8915 wrote: »

Watch out... Smileys could be seen as being against the FCoC...

@Slash8915
You have no idea. I got an official warning and post removed for using a smiley that was beating a dead horse.

The mod who deleted my post and sent me a PM afterwards was brand new (no posts in her profile) and had no idea what "beating a dead horse" even means. I can only guess she is not from around.

Oh well ...

Mablung

SirAndy wrote: »

Slash8915 wrote: »

Watch out... Smileys could be seen as being against the FCoC...

@Slash8915
You have no idea. I got an official warning and post removed for using a smiley that was beating a dead horse.

The mod who deleted my post and sent me an PM afterwards was brand new (no posts in her profile) and had no idea what "beating a dead horse" even means. I can only guess she is not from around.

Oh well ...

Might want to edit this. Talking about disciplinary actions is against the Forum Code of Conduct.

Bolo_Bob

then they shouldnt allow bot reporting at all either, because we have no proof.
we cant see their data or video logs, so they cant be called a bot and we cant judge.

so even if their names was keyboard gibberish, cant prove they are a bot even tho they appear to move, harvest, teleport, fly like a bot.

^all that applies to hacking players according to some of you, but i bet alot of the same people reported bots.

i think some of you just like to argue.

Slash8915

Bolo_Bob wrote: »

i think some of you just like to argue.

No we don't, where's your proof?! Pics or it didn't happen!

Fairydragon3

Bolo_Bob wrote: »

then they shouldnt allow bot reporting at all either, because we have no proof.
we cant see their data or video logs, so they cant be called a bot and we cant judge.

so even if their names was keyboard gibberish, cant prove they are a bot even tho they appear to move, harvest, teleport, fly like a bot.

^all that applies to hacking players according to some of you, but i bet alot of the same people reported bots.

i think some of you just like to argue.

Anything reported in a public setting is a no no, by all means report people you think are botters and cheaters, but you need to trust that ZOS, will know when some is innocent, or guilty, otherwise why do you even play this game, if you don't trust them to do this now, then you never will

Fairydragon3

Bolo_Bob wrote: »

i think some of you just like to argue.

this is why you are only star 2. lol jk jk

Honestly this has been the most civil thread on this subject, which is why they left it open

Akhratos

Slash8915 wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

I've only got four stars, can I play too?

I think it is a bit ridiculous that we can't call out people who are cheating and exploiting. In some campaigns it is completely out of hand, and you have people in zone chat saying "person x is at the keep and they are a known scroll hacker so keep them away from the scroll".

This stuff is common knowledge in game but the mods and devs are ignorant to the situation because the don't allow discussion about it here. That's messed up.

Yep. ZoS is the MMO equivalent of the parent that sends their kid to 10 minutes of timeout every time they bite someone.

Luiz Suarez parents?