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Goodbye vampires.
As if crits and misses are not bad enough you go and add another luck based mechanic
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I'm not even complaining about the bug, 5% chance to deal enough damage to kill you... The damage needs a serious nerf.
As if Vampires don't already have enough problems now.
Edited by thomaswinkworthb16_ESO on June 26, 2014 1:17AM Edit:
I'm not even complaining about the bug, 5% chance to deal enough damage to kill you... The damage needs a serious nerf.
As if Vampires don't already have enough problems now.
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TheBucket✭✭✭✭Care to elaborate? Or is this just a another thread full of accusations?William Reignes
Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
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✭silver shards hits 100% of the time now..so..if you know someone is a vampire hit them with silver shards..they're dead.1 -
Morticielle✭✭✭
Of course this is working as intended, because Zenimax makes no mistakes as we all know ...Tintinabula wrote: »silver shards hits 100% of the time now..so..if you know someone is a vampire hit them with silver shards..they're dead.
Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD
Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand4 -
ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭How do you accidentally make a skill proc 100% without messing with the skill somehow? It's undocumented in any form. Do they have a saboteur vamp-hater in their ranks that snuck that code in perhaps?3
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TheBucket✭✭✭✭Morticielle wrote: »
Of course this is working as intended, because Zenimax makes no mistakes as we all know ...Tintinabula wrote: »silver shards hits 100% of the time now..so..if you know someone is a vampire hit them with silver shards..they're dead.
Who said that? Or you just jumping to drastic conclusions? Of course they make mistakes. You find me a perfect programmer who doesn't make mistakes and ill hand you $100William Reignes
Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
Creator of Thirsty Thief Build (Retired 1.5)0 -
TheBucket✭✭✭✭ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »How do you accidentally make a skill proc 100% without messing with the skill somehow? It's undocumented in any form. Do they have a saboteur vamp-hater in their ranks that snuck that code in perhaps?
It could be based on the vampire itself or because of the tooltips. Many different things can change when you change the main.William Reignes
Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
Creator of Thirsty Thief Build (Retired 1.5)0 -
ByrenV✭Tintinabula wrote: »silver shards hits 100% of the time now..so..if you know someone is a vampire hit them with silver shards..they're dead.
does this work against NPCs too?0 -
ItsRejectz✭✭✭✭✭Yeah it's crazy! Has 100% crit chance now even though the toolbar dosnt say so. So if your a vamp you will be dead in under 2 seconds even if blockingXbox EU - GT: o69 Woody 69o
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SBR_QuorTek✭✭✭Thing is if drasticly increasing critical hits which can be done by some moves there is a chance it would actually affect the chance of the proc being budged by that, just some thoughts... and even if the case then the game is working as intended, undead should not be.... but that is my thing...
As seen in some screenshots the shard when hitting normal should be hitting quite a bit harder as well on undead in general if having maxed skill lines here and there.0 -
Morticielle wrote: »
Of course this is working as intended, because Zenimax makes no mistakes as we all know ...Tintinabula wrote: »silver shards hits 100% of the time now..so..if you know someone is a vampire hit them with silver shards..they're dead.
Who said that? Or you just jumping to drastic conclusions? Of course they make mistakes. You find me a perfect programmer who doesn't make mistakes and ill hand you $100
I'm fine with making a mistake.
But changing a skill and not noticing that the proc has changed to 100% while testing ist not ok.
I mean, if you change a skill that procs on certain kinds of enemies, you have to test it on that kind of enemies. Not noticing, that it procs 100%, I can't believe they tested it at all after the change.
It's like changing the windscreen wiper of a car and then testdriving it only during sunshine and not using it once.
So for what reason did you test it then.
Also most programers I know (studying business informatics atm) do at least test their changes a bit, or tell the qm's that they changed something, so they know they have to test it.
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health morph for war horn lasts for almost 50,000 days or until death as well make sure to use that everyone also.0
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✭It is clearly another bug they managed to add to the game instead of fixing it.
Still , it is better to keep talking about , maybe they will take less than 1 year to fix this one considering how fast their dev team works."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭When they fix this bug they'll add two more. You never know what you're going to get. It could be as simple as extracting swords and getting onions or it could be unintended flying mounts that people have been asking for. With RM being stealth-nerfed perhaps we need a pegasus.2
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http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114345/silver-shard-vampire-petition?new=1
Rather than complain on a post sign onto the petition
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SBR_QuorTek✭✭✭ElectricBlue97 wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114345/silver-shard-vampire-petition?new=1
Rather than complain on a post sign onto the petition
Believe that is against the TOS, but I could be wrong0 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »When they fix this bug they'll add two more. You never know what you're going to get. It could be as simple as extracting swords and getting onions or it could be unintended flying mounts that people have been asking for. With RM being stealth-nerfed perhaps we need a pegasus.
It has become a game of "WHAT SHALL BREAK NEXT???""nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭They must have a serious troll on the dev team. Probably a Priest of Arkay or something.Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on June 25, 2014 11:28PM1 -
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✭How was vamp fotm for everyone? by the time I got vamp they had nerfed swarm and still hadn't fixed mist form. I don't even use vamp skills. Now im supposed to die instantly every single time to anyone who sees I have white skin?...no thanx3 -
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✭ElectricBlue97 wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114345/silver-shard-vampire-petition?new=1
Rather than complain on a post sign onto the petition
You cant have petitions in the forums.
Anyway , zen devs are slow and incompetent , but not stupid.
Im guessing they will fix it , but maybe it will take up to 2 weeks AND will probably break something else in the process."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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You mean like the tests that were done when they wanted to boost only VP on vet mobs? "Ooops, sorry, we boosted their health and their autoattacks are doing 500 on plate. Our bad."I can t understand, this sounds like poor tests have been done.
They probably just changed a variable and left it at that, making the assumption that making things work on players was the only thing changed...0 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭There wasn't even a way to test these pvp changes on the PTS. For instance, Rapid Maneuver not working on horses and this Silver Shard issue. The VR12 templates provided on the last PTS were all one faction and they don't give you any pvp skills. They gave us FIghter's Guild Skills, but no players to test them on. Not sure how this happened, as there were supposedly no changes to the Silver Shards skill.Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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sagitter✭✭✭✭✭There wasn't even a way to test these pvp changes on the PTS. For instance, Rapid Maneuver not working on horses and this Silver Shard issue. The VR12 templates provided on the last PTS were all one faction and they don't give you any pvp skills. They gave us FIghter's Guild Skills, but no players to test them on. Not sure how this happened, as there were supposedly no changes to the Silver Shards skill.
So are you telling me that ability can t be pvp tested in pts server? how dumb is this?0 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭There wasn't even a way to test these pvp changes on the PTS. For instance, Rapid Maneuver not working on horses and this Silver Shard issue. The VR12 templates provided on the last PTS were all one faction and they don't give you any pvp skills. They gave us FIghter's Guild Skills, but no players to test them on. Not sure how this happened, as there were supposedly no changes to the Silver Shards skill.
So are you telling me that ability can t be pvp tested in pts server? how dumb is this?
Technically they could, but it's not easy. They provided two different templates, each from a different faction. One is VR12, Daggerfall, one is low level AD or EP, and you can create a new character. So all the VR12's were Daggerfall, and for someone to test this Silver Shards skill on another player, they would have to arrange it basically with someone who made a low level character.
Regardless, no one would know they need to test these skills, as they never documented any changes to it.Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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Right. If you go to the PTS forum, you'll see my request that they enable at least a single Cyrodiil instance there to test AvA stuff. Set bonuses, skills, etc...You are you telling me that ability can t be pvp tested in pts server? how dumb is this?
And, yes, while you CAN buy a horse, we have 0 AvA skills. And vampire lines? Gotta farm for that trait.Edited by Sihnfahl on June 26, 2014 1:03AM0 -
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I think Rapid Maneuver not working horses was intended, according to patch notesThere wasn't even a way to test these pvp changes on the PTS. For instance, Rapid Maneuver not working on horses and this Silver Shard issue. The VR12 templates provided on the last PTS were all one faction and they don't give you any pvp skills. They gave us FIghter's Guild Skills, but no players to test them on. Not sure how this happened, as there were supposedly no changes to the Silver Shards skill.
i have no idea why i thought this, i must have read it somewhere, maybe redditEdited by thomaswinkworthb16_ESO on June 26, 2014 2:52AM0
