Overall Satisfaction With ESO

ThePageMaster

7

I went for 7. Looks glorious and I haven't experienced any issues with it yet but it's losing three because the Vet content makes creating alternate players pointless as you'll be doing their story missions again anyways. That lowers the replay element in my mind.

PvP has become impossible for me also because I'm still at a relatively low level and I get destroyed by these cowardly Nightblades hiding in their coward shadows. Damn them and their tactics. I no likely.

Moxan

9

ThePageMaster wrote: »

I went for 7. Looks glorious and I haven't experienced any issues with it yet but it's losing three because the Vet content makes creating alternate players pointless as you'll be doing their story missions again anyways. That lowers the replay element in my mind.

I would like to do all of the content on one char instead of making more alts, so the way zos did it is fine for me. Either way isnt it the same amount of content?

dsalter

6

quite enjoyable but lacking heavily in balance and to much re-used content, ask me again in 3 months and i can bet a large amount will up their rating

Audigy

9

I gave it a 9,

reasons are.

Positive:

- Its a great MMO that does focus on MMO aspect´s a lot, such as grouping, crafting, Roleplaying
- Grouping however is not forced, so you can quest or raid with complete strangers, not like in other MMO´s where you cant unless you are spamming the LFG chat or dedicate yourself to a raiding guild with all the downsides of it
- Pretty stable release client, I believe I only crashed twice since release and I don't have any lag issue´s either
- Wonderful story, I enjoy doing each and every quest and that I can pretty much decide how I finish a quest - as example, either by diplomacy or killing
- I dislike skill tree´s for a living, therefore I am having a great time leveling my abilities while I use them
- Crafting is a viable source for gear, not a gimmick like in most MMO´s
- I am not forced to do dungeons to progress, but I can do them as an alternative to questing or pvp
- VR´s give players something to do past max level to progress their char, its not a simple raid or die game but a do whatever you like once you reach 50

Negatives:

- No housing system
- Bad multi core threading
- Current focus on raid and AV content, instead of crime system, DB or housing (scared it might become a WOW clone that never has anything for non raiders since WOTLK in a content patch)


ESO is one of the better MMO´s that I played since Vanilla WOW, which still ranks second behind Ultima if we talk about release versions. I feel as a valued customer and share the vision of the Dev´s that ESO should be more than just a dungeon grinder. The almost daily updates by the community represantives help to understand and see the future of ESO, it seems like they actually care about their game and not just the money.

That said, I am a bit disappointed about the lack of response in regards of housing and especially the multi threading issue´s. I am afraid they try to hustle both things under the carpet in hope we forget about them... To just know they work on the CPU limit would mean a lot, but so far no comment

SexyVette07

3

There are free to play games that blow this POS out of the water. I had such high hopes....

Grileenor

6

It is a great single player online game. But it lacks lots of MMO features. You can't even see names above the avatars. You don't notice if it is a guild mate or a NPC standing over there without moving the targeting cursor there. You can't jump in and play together if your are not whithin a certain amount of levels because you lack shared goals. When you play it is nice, but you play alone unless you spend exactly the same time on the same things as other people.

The megaserver is another issue. I don't make friends outside the guild because I don't talk to strangers anymore. Who knows what language they understand or speak? All nations running around on a single server instance is killing some fun for me as well. So, no great number at the end though the single player experience is great

D3usEX

6

No satisfaction here, another patch , another nerf for Nighblades, but fixing the real issues..no..

bugulu

7

Gave it a 7, it's an enjoyable game and has lots of potential but also several issues that should be adressed.

AS usual, the F2P are the loudest moaners in the game despite being a minority which the poll reflects. Free leech much? Makes you wonder why people are still playing the game if they are not having fun playing it.

steveb16_ESO46

4

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

It's a game of two-halves and I'm losing after half-time, for me ESO isn't the long-term gaming investment I had really thought it would be pre-release, the VR bait-and-switch is unacceptable to me.

This.

Mithrae

4

bugulu wrote: »

AS usual, the F2P are the loudest moaners in the game despite being a minority which the poll reflects. Free leech much? Makes you wonder why people are still playing the game if they are not having fun playing it.

Wow... most folk who hang out on the ESO forums more or less like ESO. Who would've thunk it. It never occurred to you that most of the folk who've decided to cancel their subscriptions are not answering this poll? If they purchased the game and hung in for this long, those low voters obviously are not F2Pers at all.

flow.currypoteb17_ESO

6

IDK, i had more fun in the beginning.

Rodario

9

I luckily haven't experienced most reported issues myself. 'knock on wood'. I am a little worried about endgame motivation though. When I'm VR12 and wearing full legendary self crafted gear, I don't know what else there will be left in terms of rewarding content...

bugulu

7

Mithrae wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

AS usual, the F2P are the loudest moaners in the game despite being a minority which the poll reflects. Free leech much? Makes you wonder why people are still playing the game if they are not having fun playing it.

Wow... most folk who hang out on the ESO forums more or less like ESO. Who would've thunk it. It never occurred to you that most of the folk who've decided to cancel their subscriptions are not answering this poll? If they purchased the game and hung in for this long, those low voters obviously are not F2Pers at all.

That's not entirely true. As usual, the official game forums attracts the ones who complain the most. World of Warcraft have had their doomsayers proclaiming that the game is gonna end for years now and the game is approaching its 10 year mark. This is true for majority of the MMO:s out there. And as usual, people who advocates F2P won't spend a dime on the game but want to get stuff for free while they leech on the small minority that actually pays cash for in game items vanities.

My question still stands. If people are not satisfied with the game, why are they still playing it?

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO

7

Lower vote for PvP massive lags, PvP level booster not working for veterans (pre vets are food, low vets are also food - AP for free / with little to zero effort)

And please hardcore PvPers go back behind your rock. I HAVE VETERAN character and if I am attacked by non vet he dies without questions no matter how hard he tries. His dmg output is like mosquito sting (not inflicting any illness;-) ). When I fight same level veteran I usualy lose because the player did better in the fight, BUT I DID hurt him a lot and he almost died.(read as I took 90% of his HPs with me and died only because I messed it up)

That is satisfied PvP and I say good fight. Then I get facerolled by VET12. I do little to no damage to them and they inflict massive damage in return and also has way better resource pools on magicka and stamina as well. So even if you play well and keep them CCed, they will sustain it and when you are out of resources, they simply fry you to ash with few shots.

Another thing that I am missing out is player shop - but I gave up my hopes.

What else does not suit me? Hmm I think grouping, because even if Iam in guild, there is no reason ti ask them for group play unless you want help with world boss or dungeon.

But in overall I like the game. Since my friend did not join me playing I suppose random grouping with strangers suits me.

So my main issue lies in PvP only, which should be fixed with non vet campaign. (I will play PvP only there most likely as I like idea of all players scalled to 50)

steveb16_ESO46

4

bugulu wrote: »

My question still stands. If people are not satisfied with the game, why are they still playing it?

Waiting while 6 month sub runs down in the hope Zen show some sign of getting their act together.

Hilgara

7

Good points.
Love the difficulty. Been looking for an MMO that had some kind of challenge for ages.
Looks beautiful and has lots of immersion.
Combat works well with lots of variation across classes making rerolling worth doing.
Phasing works well. Could be better but I love the way the world moves on with my story.
bad points.
Devs seem slow to react to problems and have very poor communication with the community.
many of the in game menus seem rushed. Guild stores etc.

Nothing that I don't expect to be fixed in future though its looking good if the devs can just get their finger out and communicate a little better.

bugulu

7

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

My question still stands. If people are not satisfied with the game, why are they still playing it?

Waiting while 6 month sub runs down in the hope Zen show some sign of getting their act together.

That have to suck. I payed three months for this since I am not willing to pay for a long time commitment of a game I haven't played before.

steveb16_ESO46

4

bugulu wrote: »

And as usual, people who advocates F2P won't spend a dime on the game but want to get stuff for free while they leech on the small minority that actually pays cash for in game items vanities.

You have absolutely no grounds to say that. You're just muck throwing.

Anyway ESO doesn't have enough options for 'fluff' to make a good FTP. It's too focused. You'd have to go the LOTRO route and actually remove and monetise basic features or blatantly sell advantages. Don't see it as either possible or likely unless someone like Perfect World came in and completely remade the game.

Now that I cancelled my sub renewal here I started playing STO, which is Free To Play. I've spent a tidy sum on it already because it's an expansive game world that has a lot of room for selling stuff and have just taken out a lifetime sub in the current Sale.

ESO might close but I doubt it'll go FTP. I hope not. I hope I'm given reason to resub.

bugulu

7

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

And as usual, people who advocates F2P won't spend a dime on the game but want to get stuff for free while they leech on the small minority that actually pays cash for in game items vanities.

You have absolutely no grounds to say that. You're just muck throwing.

Really?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-04-09-only-2-2-percent-of-free-to-play-users-ever-pay-report


Swrve research finds 46% of all revenue comes from .22% of player base, two-thirds of people stop playing after one day

Swrve tracked the habits of 10 million new players on 30 games in its network over the course of 90 days, finding that only 2.2 percent of those players ever spent money. The spending of monetized players wasn't spread evenly, as Swrve found 46 percent of revenue came from just 10 percent of that group, or .22 percent of the total player base.

And another link:

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177409-only-0-15-of-players-account-for-50-of-free-to-play-game-revenue

Whilst this are about mobile apps, you would probably find the same pattern in PC games as well.

And here comes a link to the report itself:
http://landingpage.swrve.com/rs/swrve/images/swrve-monetization-report-0114.pdf?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonvqzLZKXonjHpfsX56+QrXqG/lMI/0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4AS8BgI+SLDwEYGJlv6SgFTrPHMat50LgJUxE=

ZoM_Head

8

Riddled with bugs, but even Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are bugged like mad, even with official and unofficial patches.

My only concern is the lag, so i am waiting for the EU server to move to Europe, then give it some time to get stable. Then and only then i can determine my future with ESO.

90% of the issues i have are from lag, so i will be patient and we shall see.

Rylana

4

Four, believe it or not that number is higher than it would have been a week ago.

I was this close to giving up.

steveb16_ESO46

4

bugulu wrote: »

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

And as usual, people who advocates F2P won't spend a dime on the game but want to get stuff for free while they leech on the small minority that actually pays cash for in game items vanities.

You have absolutely no grounds to say that. You're just muck throwing.

Really?

Yes, really. You were making specific statements regarding this game and this forum. furthermore you throw pejoratives around. If something is FTP it is FTP and if people choose to play within those limitations it does not make them 'leechers'. It makes them second or third class citizens.

This isn't a 'pay what you feel it is worth' restaurant. No-one is under any obligation to pay for a service explicitly delivered as Free.

Besides - those figures include, as it says - the two thirds of people who download, give it a try and stop playing within a day.

The FTP business model works on the fact that if its a good enough game to a person, like STO is for me, then enough people will spend enough money for it to be profitable.

Ojustaboo

8

I went with an 8.

Best game I've played in years, last time I felt like this was getting FF 7 on my PS1

Last MMO I started where I felt like I would be here for the long haul was Lotro and I had a fair few years in that (have lifetime account so can always return if they ever make it good again)

The first month after release should really have been a continuation of the beta in my opinion, far far too many bugs for a paid release.

Now, while there are still bugs, an acceptable amount is the wrong words as in an ideal world there would be none, but show me a MMO that doesn't have any... I now very rarely experience real game breaking bugs (either on main or alt) and playing an alt in the same early level areas as I started my main in, is like playing a different game, what the game should have been released like.

There are some things I would like changing/improving. I'm vet 3. I enjoyed 1 - 50 10000000 times more than I'm enjoying my vet content, mainly because I wanted to experience the other two factions on alts and spoiling the stories/quests is a bit of a downer.

I wanted to play a sorc before I even got into my first beta (Jan this year) and wanted to play a summoner. However, in order to be able to enjoy my vet content, I have had to respec, learn the res skill line and not use a bow any more as my second weapon.

My main weapon no longer has the pets, again as I needed other skills in order to be able to do the vet content and survive.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't really enjoying my new spec, I hated vet stuff before this, however it's also true that I am not now playing in the way I had wanted to.

Before I did the respec, I used the Magical anomalies to gain just over one vet level, went from just under Vet 2 to 300k in vet 3. I didn't want to do this, but I simply couldn't survive without doing so. Whether this would still have been needed if I'd ditched the way I wanted to play earlier and respeced, I don't know.

One of the things that I really liked and was one of the first things I commented on in beta was how refreshingly nice it was doing the mages and fighters guild quests and finding a bit of a challenge.

I died over and over and over again with Doshia, but once I learnt how the orbs worked, it became a really good and doable fight (and I am no where near what most would call a good player).

I believe it's been nerfed twice now, A guild member said the following in guild chat just yesterday

"She died in 3 hits before she even turned into a harvester, I had my ultimate prepared, pots ready to go, bah nothing, this used to be such an awesome fight"

It's sad that one of the best fights in the game (in my opinion) has now been turned into a faceroll and concerns like that and the rest of my post is what led me to give it an 8. Infact an 8 might be slightly too high.

I think this game has great potential but too many quick reactions to appease those that shout loudest from the devs could make the game go either way.

Hopefully I'm hear for the long haul.

bugulu

7

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

And as usual, people who advocates F2P won't spend a dime on the game but want to get stuff for free while they leech on the small minority that actually pays cash for in game items vanities.

You have absolutely no grounds to say that. You're just muck throwing.

Really?

Yes, really. You were making specific statements regarding this game and this forum. furthermore you throw pejoratives around. If something is FTP it is FTP and if people choose to play within those limitations it does not make them 'leechers'. It makes them second or third class citizens.

This isn't a 'pay what you feel it is worth' restaurant. No-one is under any obligation to pay for a service explicitly delivered as Free.

Besides - those figures include, as it says - the two thirds of people who download, give it a try and stop playing within a day.

The FTP business model works on the fact that if its a good enough game to a person, like STO is for me, then enough people will spend enough money for it to be profitable.

Free to play games are carried by the minority who spend money on the game.
The rest of the people are free loading on the other players and people advocating here on the forums that the costs can not be justified and they wanting this game to go F2P will most likely never ever spend a dime on the game itself.
Entitlement to pay the game without any cost.

FishBreath

3

3. The game is a MMO that can't decide if it's a singleplayer or multiplayer game. As a singleplayer game the game is much worse than the singleplayer TES games because of all the gameplay compromises that have been made to make the game a MMO.

Most of the game's PVE content is designed for singleplayer play. Quest stages don't advance for example when your team mates talk to NPCs. You have to do it too. Also difficulty is scaled for a single (casual skilled) player so when running in a group most of the PVE content becomes cakewalk. The game is already cakewalk when I do quests alone so I run without all gear on to prevent me from becoming completely bored.

steveb16_ESO46

4

You are just trying to pass off your own petty moral judgements as facts. They are not leechers, They are a defined category of customer.

As for the rest of your post - that's just hand-waving assertions that you are in no position to know regarding posters on this forum.

When FTP games start banning people who don't spend money you can get back to me. Until then they are 'customers'.

stumpy999

3

I'm loving it, there's some flaky stuff sure, but overall it's been awesome from my POV

Tabbycat

9

I'm happy. It's not perfect. It is better than all the other MMOs on the market currently.

EQBallzz

5

Went right down the middle with a 5. A month or so ago I would have said 8 but as time goes on I get more and more disappointed in the speed and effectiveness with which they are applying fixes and adding features (features mind you that are the most basic, rudimentary MMO features that should have been there from the start). It's also disappointing that they are not reacting faster to the exodus of players from veteran areas (and the game).

Hopefully they will get it all fixed and up to speed eventually but it might be too little too late already (for me anyway). My thriving guild of friends is now a hollowed out husk and I don't think that's fixable which is a bummer and has a negative impact on my outlook for the future of the game.

Knootewoot

3

I chose 3 i think.

I loved the game, but it is getting boring real fast. I am V8 and played casual (2-3 hours a day in beginning and now 1 hour max.

1-50 was an awesome ride and great stories. i listend to all quests and no... i did not read books. Never did that in TES and also not IRL.

I don't like VR content and not because of the difficulty (although with my build 3 mobs i can just take, but 2-3 hits and im dead mostly. So i use shadow a lot), but because i dont want to kill my own faction and there are to few other players around. I am in deshaan area.

So nowadays i only do PvP, capture/defend 2-3 keeps and log out.

Not the game i hoped it would be. And future content (like stealing/jailing) would not add much because V12's have nothing to do in starter area's stealing cups and other no use things. Might work for ingredients but i get those from caves.

I do look forward to thieves/dark skill lines. But that might take a long time to be implemented.

I do keep subbed.... but overall i only like the PvP now.