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Squarcle✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »If it's so easy for you to make legitimate gold, then why cry? Easy come, easy go. MMOs are not known for staying broken just so early birds can feel leet.
because nothing else in eso is good money wtf am I gonna do go grind the same dungeon 50 times a day to make the same money id get off 1 enchant if I get a purple ring drop or decon something to sell 1 grain solvent? no thanks. I can sell a full armor and weapon + jewlerry enchant set to someone for nearly 100k, that's like a months worth of grind to anyone. that I make for pressing R a couple times0 -
Auralia✭✭✭Enchanting does need to improve and give you better experience. I welcome any improvement to that craft.0 -
indytims_ESO✭✭✭✭In my opinion, the ONLY thing wrong with Enchanting is that some runes stack to 100, others only to 20.
Other than that, I sincerely wish all the OTHER crafts were slower to level like Enchanting. Maxxing out a craft in a couple hours kinda makes crafting 'levels' pointless.0 -
If they improve something, its a problem because - others will not do the same 'suffering'. Its a game, we are not competing for the 'limited marbles' of real life.
The best of MMOs - the players; the worse of MMOs - the players.2 -
This happens with every MMO sometime after launch. They make things easier as time goes on. Enchanting is a lot of work and frankly I welcome the change.
I really don't understand how it diminishes what you did..you still did it and it was a big accomplishment for you. Whatever changes made to the game have no effect on what you did or how you did it.1 -
Squarcle✭✭✭indytims_ESO wrote: »In my opinion, the ONLY thing wrong with Enchanting is that some runes stack to 100, others only to 20.
Other than that, I sincerely wish all the OTHER crafts were slower to level like Enchanting. Maxxing out a craft in a couple hours kinda makes crafting 'levels' pointless.
exactly I think in an MMO anything that takes u over a month is.. well, to be expected? they want you to play over a year, but than hand the cry babies the whole game and than vet levels, and than newer vet levels, within 2 months of release like wtf.. vet 50 before the first year reaches us because people quit their jobs and went on welfare to exploit vet dungeons for 2 lvls in an hour than whine for more content while the rest of us playing aren't even mid vet or vet yet0 -
Squarcle✭✭✭indytims_ESO wrote: »In my opinion, the ONLY thing wrong with Enchanting is that some runes stack to 100, others only to 20.
Other than that, I sincerely wish all the OTHER crafts were slower to level like Enchanting. Maxxing out a craft in a couple hours kinda makes crafting 'levels' pointless.
ikr I got 60ish cura and 80 something kude and that's like 8 stacks instead of 2, enchant is the only thing ive seen like that where stacks go to 200 -
Squarcle✭✭✭fredarbonab14_ESO wrote: »If they improve something, its a problem because - others will not do the same 'suffering'. Its a game, we are not competing for the 'limited marbles' of real life.
The best of MMOs - the players; the worse of MMOs - the players.
it wasn't suffering to me, I liked translating the runes and memorising the different positive and negative effects per essence to make each type of glyph, what im sayin is why after 3 months start to make the game easier.. that should have been done after beta, not make me PAY to be your damn guinea pig wtf, tellin me they didn't see any of these exp differences in months of beta until now? HAWKEYE ZENIMAX0 -
Teevesnacks✭✭✭i got 50 enchanting on my lvl 30 like 2 months ago from spending hundreds of thousands of gold buying potency runes and denata/rekutas, so yea, major acomplishment. because as you see above me, veteran guys cant even get to kuta glyphs yet.
I'd like to know where you got hundreds of thousands of gold from on a level 30 character 12 days after the game got released...
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Squarcle✭✭✭samcharles77_ESO wrote: »This happens with every MMO sometime after launch. They make things easier as time goes on. Enchanting is a lot of work and frankly I welcome the change.
I really don't understand how it diminishes what you did..you still did it and it was a big accomplishment for you. Whatever changes made to the game have no effect on what you did or how you did it.
it does when a billion other people can make what I make instead of 4-5 other people, my market is already hard enough with people who buy off bots or go to start zones and pay 1k for kuta ripping off lowbies to undercut me now, only gonna get worse, soon my glyphs will have as much value as a white level 30 bow with no traits.0 -
Squarcle✭✭✭Teevesnacks wrote: »i got 50 enchanting on my lvl 30 like 2 months ago from spending hundreds of thousands of gold buying potency runes and denata/rekutas, so yea, major acomplishment. because as you see above me, veteran guys cant even get to kuta glyphs yet.
I'd like to know where you got hundreds of thousands of gold from on a level 30 character 12 days after the game got released...
Yes I would like to know this aswell
said like 8 times already in this post, gonna call me a gold buyer again tell it to zenimax im not goin through trollfest some more0 -
Teevesnacks✭✭✭Teevesnacks wrote: »i got 50 enchanting on my lvl 30 like 2 months ago from spending hundreds of thousands of gold buying potency runes and denata/rekutas, so yea, major acomplishment. because as you see above me, veteran guys cant even get to kuta glyphs yet.
I'd like to know where you got hundreds of thousands of gold from on a level 30 character 12 days after the game got released...
Yes I would like to know this aswell
said like 8 times already in this post, gonna call me a gold buyer again tell it to zenimax im not goin through trollfest some more
Well honestly with all the botting, gold selling duping that was rampant at that time I could see how you got to 50 enchanting so early
Here's one way that I just thought of that you wouldn't get caught:
Get your "friend" to dupe materials, create the glyphs and have your toon decon them, you won't have any evidence of being involved in the process but you have powerleveled your skill to maxEdited by Teevesnacks on June 17, 2014 1:46AM1 -
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Fixed.
Yeah, I'm jealous of the guy who has to pay to win. I'm jealous of the guy who cares so much about being the best in a game that he can't stand the thought of a bug being fixed to allow other people to progress at the rate they were always meant to because they might catch up, and it's not fair because if he had to cheat to get there then everyone should have to cheat to get there.
Nope. You're never going to get anyone to believe you, because it's not true. You accidentally outed yourself as a gold buyer.Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »YOU CANT REALLY MAKE ENCHANTING EASIER TO LEVEL AFTER SO MANY OF US SPENT SO MUCH GOLD AND TIME ON IT!! thats like taking away veteran levels! you'll have a mutiny I tell ya! A MUTINY!!
if you decrease the exp needed for levels or increase the exp per glyph, I DEMAND being auto leveled to the next cap when you release them because that is bigger nonsense than not nerfing dragonblood on a DK or nerfing mages fury on a sorc.
(still cant wrap my brain around why the biggest tank class has the biggest heal in game, and why the highest hitting ranged mage also has the highest damage execute, isn't there a healer class and an assassin class..?)
How much gold did you buy to level enchanting up?
never had to buy gold, never gonna after the bank ive made on enchanting lol. I flipped motifs and sold raw mats I collected during runestone collecting during early access, first 2 days I acquired over 50k cash while others made maybe 3k questing.
yep I get reported daily as a gold buyer seein as my mains name is "Cpr" yet im not banned yet so say what you must. you outed yourself as jealous for not believing how much pixel golds I has. you just mad my lvl 5 spent more in horse food than your bank has in total
dood, im trolling
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Dusty5✭✭✭Dude run to the inn and get a drink or 6. ZOS is done trashing player class's with nerfs now its time to screw up trade skills. Then mounts then whatever they can come up with to do the most damage to the greatest number of players.0
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Squarcle✭✭✭Teevesnacks wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »i got 50 enchanting on my lvl 30 like 2 months ago from spending hundreds of thousands of gold buying potency runes and denata/rekutas, so yea, major acomplishment. because as you see above me, veteran guys cant even get to kuta glyphs yet.
I'd like to know where you got hundreds of thousands of gold from on a level 30 character 12 days after the game got released...
Yes I would like to know this aswell
said like 8 times already in this post, gonna call me a gold buyer again tell it to zenimax im not goin through trollfest some more
Well honestly with all the botting, gold selling duping that was rampant at that time I could see how you got to 50 enchanting so early
Here's one way that I just thought of that you wouldn't get caught:
Get your "friend" to dupe materials, create the glyphs and have your toon decon them, you won't have any evidence of being involved in the process but you have powerleveled your skill to max
zzzz than tell zenimax I did this? why waste my time with your half a$$'d sherlock holmes on forums, is this a witch hunt that I wasn't invited to. for the 700th time in 2 hrs, I flipped motifs, sold raw mats I collected during runestone farming, and just in general was a merchant, now be-gone you unamusing troll0 -
Teevesnacks✭✭✭Teevesnacks wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »i got 50 enchanting on my lvl 30 like 2 months ago from spending hundreds of thousands of gold buying potency runes and denata/rekutas, so yea, major acomplishment. because as you see above me, veteran guys cant even get to kuta glyphs yet.
I'd like to know where you got hundreds of thousands of gold from on a level 30 character 12 days after the game got released...
Yes I would like to know this aswell
said like 8 times already in this post, gonna call me a gold buyer again tell it to zenimax im not goin through trollfest some more
Well honestly with all the botting, gold selling duping that was rampant at that time I could see how you got to 50 enchanting so early
Here's one way that I just thought of that you wouldn't get caught:
Get your "friend" to dupe materials, create the glyphs and have your toon decon them, you won't have any evidence of being involved in the process but you have powerleveled your skill to max
zzzz than tell zenimax I did this? why waste my time with your half a$$'d sherlock holmes on forums, is this a witch hunt that I wasn't invited to. for the 700th time in 2 hrs, I flipped motifs, sold raw mats I collected during runestone farming, and just in general was a merchant, now be-gone you unamusing troll
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isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »If it's so easy for you to make legitimate gold, then why cry? Easy come, easy go. MMOs are not known for staying broken just so early birds can feel leet.
because nothing else in eso is good money wtf am I gonna do go grind the same dungeon 50 times a day to make the same money id get off 1 enchant if I get a purple ring drop or decon something to sell 1 grain solvent? no thanks. I can sell a full armor and weapon + jewlerry enchant set to someone for nearly 100k, that's like a months worth of grind to anyone. that I make for pressing R a couple times
Um, so you're mad because you can't price gouge - and you forget that, eventually, everyone can and probably will level up their own darned trades ... sometimes without buying a single thing. I never buy anything to level up crafting, I farm it all myself. Meanwhile, you just said it was easy-peasy to make gold legitimately through other means.
Jeezus crispies, they fixed ONE LEVEL of enchanting because it was _broken_ and required more xp than it should have done. They didn't come rob your damn bank account with a gun to your head, steal your company and ship you off to Saudi - that's what you're acting like happened.
Chill out. And remember, ANYONE can level ANYTHING, so your gravy train wasn't going to last forever, anyway.
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isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭GrimGryphon wrote: »
Why not? I'd rather see a game without humans. It'd be a nice change, and quite original!
Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on June 17, 2014 2:35AM0 -
seaef✭✭✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »GrimGryphon wrote: »
Why not? I'd rather see a game without humans. It'd be a nice change, and quite original!
**woosh**
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ZheinLevin✭✭Never spent gold to get it to max level. I just found people to trade/deconstruct glyphs with.NA Ebonheart Pact
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I'm sorry I didn't finish reading the post, it just turned into this in my head so I stopped:
I agree. I stopped after a few lines.0 -
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Just sayin'....The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.0 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭yes, lets make the game simple and faceroll-able for anyone who only wants to play the game 15 mins a day and doesnt wanna work for levels. why should anyone who actually put time or effort be acknowledged right? we should all be able to make veteran kuta glyphs after 10 mins of grinding right? YEA! screw those guys i want 5 enchanting levels per decon, because its FAIR
Yep. Instant unsub.0 -
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✭On that note: I have a level 34 enchanter and a Massive supply of runes. So PM me if you are AD and want to swap v5-v7 glyphs.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Sethowar✭✭Why does enchanting need fixing? At the moment its a challenge and an achievement to level. None of the crafts are any challenge whatsoever now, whereas enchanting can take some special planning, a lot of buying and selling glyphs and runes, and some good time swapping glyphs. Besides,
1. You don't need to get it past 40
2. If you put any thought whatsoever into efficiency you can get about 14-15 xp/gp. If you consider alchemy mats are (mostly) about 100g/ea, with a maybe 50g high end water, you're looking at about 80xp/g. Sure, its different, but that doesn't make it broken.
3. I have a 180 slot bank, 4 toons with 110 inventories, a bank toon with ~80 of each purple upgrade and ~20 of each yellow upgrade and am by no means rich. Just from questing and selling some mats I've easily gotten enough money to level enchant, and have about 70-80k on top of that at the moment.
I think its fantastic that one of the money sinks is a skill, and it also gives nubs a way to make some $$$ by selling aspect runes which they can fairly easily get. ENCHANTING IS NOT BROKEN DON'T *** WITH IT.0 -
NobleX35✭✭✭✭GothicPython wrote: »GothicPython wrote: »Do you understand how dragons blood works? It has a base cost of 450ish Magicka and it only heals 33% of *missing health* to the player it wont ever heal anyone other than the player and you can only spam it so many times before you completely run out Magicka and yes it might be the largest, but it's also the weakest. It's a skill that already has diminishing returns built into it...and you're complaining?
diminishing returns? u cast 1-2 and ur full hp already, take a potion, ur full everything, and whoever was attacking u is already dead. explain the logic?
For re-iteration...It heals 33% of *missing health*. A DK can never get "fully" healed off that skill because it's missing health not total health.
Say a DK has 3,000 health and they are down to 500 and for those of you that can't add/subtract...it means they're *missing* 2,500.
First cast: 2,500 * 0.33 = 825 health returned. The first cast healed the DK for 825 health.
Now assuming nothing has changed and the DK hasn't received any other heals or lost any more health
Second cast: 500 + 825 = 1,325
3,000 - 1,325 = 1,675 missing health
1,675 * 0.33 = 552.75 health returned.
825 + 552.75 = 1,377.75 health returned after casting it twice which is not even 50% of the DK's total health pool.
The DK has gained 1,377 health and spent 900 Magicka...explain to me again how this is unbalanced?
ok so my turn. a Dk who walks into a 50v1, holding block, with reflect spells and razor armor turned on reflecting half the damage you do to him using light robes spamming impulse and talons with 15 sec timer on potions from enchant, is now effectively healing over 1k hp a sec while returning over 1-2k damage every 1-2 sec to multiple targets without using an ulti, having 30% reduced spell cost, 40% magicka regen, and for all we know he has on warlock set giving him even more of a flood on that 2k+ magicka he has included in his 3k hp, which could even be more with ayelid well and food buffs like usual, drops a talon drops his standard, you've all successfully given another DK 10k alliance points for standing within 15 metres, and anyone out of his death zone, is just reflecting all their spells back on him, and if he had bat swarms, u just popping him to full hp shredding yourself. run? how, he has shield charge on a weapon swap or pulls u. but hey what do I know, im just a witness to it 500 times a day in wabbajack server
Everything you've stated here is an issue with broken game mechanics and specific armor passive imbalances rather trying to justify or argue that an individual skill is OP. My whole point was that you were complaining that Dragon's Blood is OP, but when you really look at the facts the skill itself is not.Edited by NobleX35 on June 17, 2014 3:45AM"Only the dead have seen the end of war."0 -
ShADoW0s✭✭✭A tip for everyone leveling enchanting, after level 20 DO NOT make white glyphs, only make green and up and trade with partner for decon. For example, a Vr1-3 white gives ~350 exp for create ~1k for decon, while a Vr1-3 green gives ~1.3k creation and ~4k decon! I think this is why so many people are failing at enchanting.1
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YourNameHere✭✭✭I just wish for more circles!
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