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I really don't know why I'm still persevering with this game

GrimMauKin
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There are so many bugs in this game it's unreal but surely the most fundamental are control keys that simply stop working on a regular basis making combat virtually unplayable at times in a game that's based around combat; Zenimax seem to have no interest in fixing it.

I've just died again as my control skills keys stopped working in the middle of a big fight (Esc Esc does work but you continue to be hit when actioning it and I'm not going to last very long again a big pack of Daedra with just underpowered melee attacks to rely on). In the combat session previously I couldn't crouch as the crouch key stopped working (a bit of a handicap for a Nightblade); I really have lost count of how many I've died because of bugs.

Instead of fixing the issues it seems to have become progressively worse and I'm now experiencing keys ceasing to work every few melee sessions (when they do work I get the chance to experience all the other combat bugs).

These aren't lag issues (that's a separate problem) it's a case of the keys simply ceasing to work. It really doesn't get much more fundamental than this - I can't control my character reliably. Can we prioritise this one please instead of putting all the effort into new content?
Edited by GrimMauKin on June 14, 2014 5:10PM
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  • AlienSlof
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    I second this - I've had incidents lately of my key presses not responding, and resulting in my death(s). Please fix this one!
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  • Anath_Q
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    GrimMauKin wrote: »

    Instead of fixing the issues it seems to have become progressively worse and I'm now experiencing keys ceasing to work every few melee sessions (when they do work I get the chance to experience all the other combat bugs).

    These aren't lag issues (that's a separate problem) it's a case of the keys simply ceasing to work. It really doesn't get much more fundamental than this - I can't control my character reliably. Can we prioritise this one please instead of putting all the effort into new content?

    This has been especially bad for me since the patch at the beginning of the week. There have been a couple of other posts about this with no response from ZoS. Submitted a ticket as well...and no response. At this point, I am just hoping a fix will randomly appear soon.
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  • Tavore1138
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    This is beyond bad tonight, as per my thread... ZOS seem unwilling to even acknowledge the problem, I am assuming they have no idea on what to do to fix this at all.

    P.S. I have bug reported in game and out as well as threads here and never seen a single answer from CS, they have invested heavily in the Ostrich skill tree.
    Edited by Tavore1138 on June 14, 2014 6:02PM
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  • Ysne58
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    It's been happening for quite some time. It seems to have gotten worse recently though.
  • Nebthet78
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    This has been happening for a while now.. at least a month for me on and off. It gets rather annoying. Especially when you are with others in a group and your non-responsiveness can result in their death.
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  • Soloeus
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    This is beyond bad tonight, as per my thread... ZOS seem unwilling to even acknowledge the problem, I am assuming they have no idea on what to do to fix this at all.

    P.S. I have bug reported in game and out as well as threads here and never seen a single answer from CS, they have invested heavily in the Ostrich skill tree.

    Oh, you aren't in Entropy Rising. If you were, all your threads would have been "puppied" up.

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  • Tavore1138
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    Entropy Rising?

    But in answer to the OPs question - the reason we persevere is because this game is like crack to TES players, the 90% of TES goodness & lore makes us forget the bad code until it smacks us in the face and we post threads like this...
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  • Hoamaii
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    Couldn't agree more with SuraklinPrime, it is somehow like crack to TES players - even though it so often turns into a bad trip...

    About them keys not responding, the one that particularily makes me laugh (to tears, to tears...) is my Dragon Leap only responding with a loud BANG and my character getting stuck in a stupid crouched position with stiff, folded wings while desperately crawling to escape thugs... Such a stupid way to die for an ex-Dovahkiin who defeated Alduiin...
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  • Yam_of_the_Center
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    Hoamaii wrote: »
    ...getting stuck in a stupid crouched position with stiff, folded wings while desperately crawling to escape thugs... Such a stupid way to die for an ex-Dovahkiin who defeated Alduiin...
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  • RatsnevE
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    Technical support is 3rd party support for ZOS. I strongly suggest everyone use in-game /bug and /feedback. You get the same sort of ticket numbers but I've been told they route more directly to ZOS even though support can still see them too. I like to go this route and in addition send the same reports to the regular phone-back support when they are dire--which they usually always are for me.

    I know some days I ask myself the same question as the OP of why do I bother? Partly its because quitting means you waste (for me $90) what you have spent on the game. Also, (fact for me) I've enjoyed playing an awful lot of the game even with an apparently broken NB or at least as a casual gamer who hates strategy and loves exploring around and I've done so much of that successfully. But when you also get stopped cold by so many other numerous events it is so totally frustrating.

    Also, once I stop playing for whatever the upsetting reason is it can take days to get fired up to continue--that's what I'm going through right now. I'm probably lingering in some sort of depression over the game. Maybe tomorrow?
    Edited by RatsnevE on June 15, 2014 5:14AM
  • Phinix1
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    OP, I have given it some thought and the answer is actually pretty obvious. The primary reasons people are willing to give this game so much slack with so many glaring issues are:

    1) The "new and shiny" factor.
    2) There really isn't much (new) out right now.
    3) It waves the "Elder Scrolls" banner.
    4) There are aspects of the game which are well designed and fun.

    The problem with #4 is that it is mostly gathering and crafting that are well designed and fun, and also the voice acting and many of the quests. But the thing that you spend 90% of your time doing, that being combat, is actually pretty terrible at this point once you hit veteran content.
    Edited by Phinix1 on June 15, 2014 7:39AM
  • Hoamaii
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    Actually I'm not so sure about the "shiny and new" - new it is for sure (if you do not count the lengthy Beta testing), but shiny?

    I may be wrong but I believe ESO counted very much on the solid Elder Scrolls fan base which has always been very forgiving of the numerous bugs because the games were so well designed. Honestly, the well designed and fun parts of the game are directly inherited from the franchise - nothing new here. I'm wondering what'll happen when the WoW crowd gets bored and the TES crowd realize this time they're helpless to fix the bugs...

    With the release of the Creation Kit (or G.E.CK.), Bethesda treated its players like "partners" in fun, that was a very inspired move. ZoS treats them more like "loyal subjects" who are supposed to behave submissively - the Forum design alone says it all. Loyal they are and probably will remain (to the franchise), but submissive?.. Think twice.
    Edited by Hoamaii on June 15, 2014 1:33PM
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  • DanteYoda
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    I can't wait until my sub runs out, and i can finally uninstall this pos..
  • Fairydragon3
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    I can't wait until my sub runs out, and i can finally uninstall this pos..

    FYI you can uninstall with out having to wait for your sub to run out
  • AngryWolf
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    Thanks God it's not just me. I'm having my keys stop working more and more myself. What is up with that?!? That has to be fixed NOW.
  • Hoamaii
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    Wow, didn't think there'd come a time when these keys not working would get in my way - after all we do have a grand choice of 4 to 5 keys for skills!..

    Ahem, but no, I had not run into that one quest "the Parley" where you're only allowed to use ONE key ("x"). I must have played it a dozen time and inevitably, the key stops responding in the middle of the quest. Can't finish it. And oh, I really got bored of watching the introduction video a dozen time too before I tried and got stuck again... (it's not just ESO but what is it with video games almost systematically reloading before the video rather than after? It gets to a point when you want to kill the NPCs yourself rather than defend them!..)
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  • Grim13
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    OP, I feel your pain. I cannot express, without descending into a cavalcade of expletives, just how frustrating I find the game's unresponsiveness to be!

    Especially, in Cyrodiil. <must. bite. tongue.>

    How a computer game company can fail so spectacularly at the very basics, neigh, the FUNDAMENTALS, of programming, is well beyond me!?

    ..It's like they hired middle school computer class kids to code this game... such is the level of amateur hour BS we're forced to tolerate.
  • twev
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    OP, I feel your pain. I cannot express, without descending into a cavalcade of expletives, just how frustrating I find the game's unresponsiveness to be!

    Especially, in Cyrodiil. <must. bite. tongue.>

    How a computer game company can fail so spectacularly at the very basics, neigh, the FUNDAMENTALS, of programming, is well beyond me!?

    ..It's like they hired middle school computer class kids to code this game... such is the level of amateur hour BS we're forced to tolerate.

    Ahhhh, you didn't play 'Defiance', I see.....

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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Entropy Rising?
    One of the 'elite' end-game guilds ZOS are taking requests and guidance from it seems, some devs are talking to them directly on their forum/teamspeak, while not posting anything at all on here.

    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on June 16, 2014 7:38AM
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    GrimMauKin wrote: »
    There are so many bugs in this game it's unreal but surely the most fundamental are control keys that simply stop working on a regular basis making combat virtually unplayable at times in a game that's based around combat; Zenimax seem to have no interest in fixing it.

    I've just died again as my control skills keys stopped working in the middle of a big fight (Esc Esc does work but you continue to be hit when actioning it and I'm not going to last very long again a big pack of Daedra with just underpowered melee attacks to rely on). In the combat session previously I couldn't crouch as the crouch key stopped working (a bit of a handicap for a Nightblade); I really have lost count of how many I've died because of bugs.

    Instead of fixing the issues it seems to have become progressively worse and I'm now experiencing keys ceasing to work every few melee sessions (when they do work I get the chance to experience all the other combat bugs).

    These aren't lag issues (that's a separate problem) it's a case of the keys simply ceasing to work. It really doesn't get much more fundamental than this - I can't control my character reliably. Can we prioritise this one please instead of putting all the effort into new content?

    I don't know why Im still playing at all either, cant progress in vr wo a group due to nerfs to stamina dks. Cyrodil sucks because its always AD winning
  • njowoweb17_ESO
    Guys there is a solution!spam the same key for at least 3 times!!done
  • stypsyb14_ESO
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    Agree with OP. This 'keys stop working' bug is making the game unplayable. I also think it started happening much more frequently with the latest patch.
  • Heinzy
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    Confirmed, this is now happening to me.
    Window key seems to be the only thing knocking back my abilities in order.

    Perhaps it's a new combat mechanic. Alt tab out of the game to blind you or something.
  • GossiTheDog
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    Disable addons. Seriously, the ESC key bug is often triggered by addons. Something happened in 1.1.2 patch around addons which is broken, and unfortunately not fixed.
  • Hiply
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    Disable addons. Seriously, the ESC key bug is often triggered by addons. Something happened in 1.1.2 patch around addons which is broken, and unfortunately not fixed.

    I don't use add-ons, have never used add-ons, don't have an add-on framework installed. Seriously, this key bug does not have a 1:1 correlation with add-on use.
    Edited by Hiply on June 16, 2014 2:32PM
  • Fairydragon3
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    Hiply wrote: »
    Disable addons. Seriously, the ESC key bug is often triggered by addons. Something happened in 1.1.2 patch around addons which is broken, and unfortunately not fixed.

    I don't use add-ons, have never used add-ons, don't have an add-on framework installed. Seriously, this key bug does not have a 1:1 correlation with add-on use.

    Be sure to put that stuff in your original description of the problem. This is why people complain about getting stupid responses they have already tried. although you don't use addon's doesn't mean this will not work for others. Remember the forums are for more than just you getting help. Others come here looking for answers to their own problems, so no solution should be dismissed
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Hiply wrote: »
    Disable addons. Seriously, the ESC key bug is often triggered by addons. Something happened in 1.1.2 patch around addons which is broken, and unfortunately not fixed.

    I don't use add-ons, have never used add-ons, don't have an add-on framework installed. Seriously, this key bug does not have a 1:1 correlation with add-on use.

    Be sure to put that stuff in your original description of the problem. This is why people complain about getting stupid responses they have already tried. although you don't use addon's doesn't mean this will not work for others. Remember the forums are for more than just you getting help. Others come here looking for answers to their own problems, so no solution should be dismissed
    In my personal experience putting in such facts to the ticket doesn't prevent boiler-plate responses suggesting precisely what you already tried from being sent in reply. :(
  • Fairydragon3
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    Hiply wrote: »
    Disable addons. Seriously, the ESC key bug is often triggered by addons. Something happened in 1.1.2 patch around addons which is broken, and unfortunately not fixed.

    I don't use add-ons, have never used add-ons, don't have an add-on framework installed. Seriously, this key bug does not have a 1:1 correlation with add-on use.

    Be sure to put that stuff in your original description of the problem. This is why people complain about getting stupid responses they have already tried. although you don't use addon's doesn't mean this will not work for others. Remember the forums are for more than just you getting help. Others come here looking for answers to their own problems, so no solution should be dismissed
    In my personal experience putting in such facts to the ticket doesn't prevent boiler-plate responses suggesting precisely what you already tried from being sent in reply. :(

    How so?, I hope you dont't mean the whole log out, /camp thing, because /camp is not the same as logging out and in. But I know CST's tend to hire those types of people who seem to not read a ticket, but those people don't last too long
  • Anlaemar
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    I can't wait until my sub runs out, and i can finally uninstall this pos..

    Ummm, you don't have to wait for the sub to run out. Uninstall now, please. Won't hurt the feelings of those who actually are willing to pay and love playing it.
    Edited by Anlaemar on June 16, 2014 5:44PM
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