Remove cancelled accounts from the forums

GreySix

Elirienne wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Elirienne wrote: »

Completely agree. IF you are not playing the game, you do not belong here and I am not interested in what you have to say.

If you have X days left on your subscription, then you should be able to post for X days.

Of course. I am still not interested (why would I care about someone's opinion who is not playing the game we are discussing?), but yes, then they should be able to post. But not a moment longer.

In regard to interest, concur. The negative-themed threads that interest me are the ones that offer both criticisms and viable recommended fixes.

"This game sux and I'm going to WS," doesn't fit that definition.

fredarbonab14_ESO

^^^ Why? To hear their 'constructive criticism', which I am sure we already heard 50x before they quit, and imagine after they do so, imagine the ~tone~ then with nothing to loose. What we face here is the obnoxious behavior of a significant number of MMO players who play every new game, but if the game is not for them begin to be obnoxious and terrorize the forums of the game, since they be told quickly to shut up INSIDE the game, where people are playing and having fun, they take their 'rage' in these forums. Not so fast I say.

GreySix

fredarbonab14_ESO wrote: »

^^^ Why? To hear their 'constructive criticism', which I am sure we already heard 50x before they quit ...

There is no requirement for you to read it, but if they're still subscribed they have the same right to post as you do, your disagreement with what they post notwithstanding.

JessieColt

IMHO, User forums should be restricted to users. If you cancel your account, (and can no long log into the game), you are no longer a user and should not have the ability to post to the user forums.

Rosveen

rayeab16_ESO wrote: »

stop telling everyone to use the fan made forums, when we were ALL TOLD NOT TO DO IT!
we were told to ONLY USE THESE FORUMS, for our own safety. for our accounts safety.

I don't remember ZOS ever saying that. But even if they did, I'm sorry, but registering on fansites doesn't compromise my account security in any way. I have a completely different email and password here.

Rev Rielle

JessieColtub17_ESO wrote: »

IMHO, User forums should be restricted to users. If you cancel your account, (and can no long log into the game), you are no longer a user and should not have the ability to post to the user forums.

Exactly.

"If you can play, you can have your say."

DenverRalphy

In my experience with numerous MMOs, a significant majority of forum users who have claimed "I quit", "I canceled my account", "I'm done here", etc... actually haven't done as they claim. More often than not, they just make those statements for attention or to stir the pot.

stungateb14_ESO

In a healthy society/relationship you must allow dissension.

Cass R. Sunstein writes.

Terrorism and other violence frequently is a consequence of intolerance for dissenting thoughts, according to Cass R. Sunstein, a University of Chicago law professor whose analysis concludes that suppression of dissent can result in the absence of facts and other arguments—key factors in effective decision-making. Whether a dramatic debate about public policy or routine deliberations about mundane choices, dissent contributes to small groups and society at large, he writes. Groups of people do better if they cultivate diversity, openness, and even dissent. A truly free society prohibits censorship and enables free expression to occur, continues Sunstein, who studies three phenomena of group dynamics: individuals’ desire to conform to groups, group decision- making, and the tendency for parts of groups to polarize.

Why Societies Need Dissent is somewhat academic, yet readable, blending legal judgments and common sense. Noting that consensus can mean conformity, it blasts “political correctness” and conformists themselves (which he dubs “free riders,” contributing far less than they benefit from society). Provocative in its own type of dissent, it is non- partisan—observing that both Democratic and Republican judges tend to drift to extremist rulings without the checks and balances of opposing opinions.

Dissenters, whether federal jurists or conscientious members of PTAs, are those who resist the pressures to go along at some risk to themselves, Sunstein adds. Their insights can be useful, even vital. He concludes that it is in society’s best interest to discourage conformity and rigidity, and to promote opinions and ideas.

Head.hunter

I'd say it comes down to specific posters, either trolling or so offended at certain aspects of the game that they just blow their top, never forgiving and never forgetting.

Elirienne

stungateb14_ESO wrote: »

In a healthy society/relationship you must allow dissension.

Among those who belong to that society. People who do not play this game do not belong into our society.

stungateb14_ESO

Elirienne wrote: »

stungateb14_ESO wrote: »

In a healthy society/relationship you must allow dissension.

Among those who belong to that society. People who do not play this game do not belong into our society.

My physical copy of CE Imperial edition says I do.

Elirienne

DenverRalphy wrote: »

In my experience with numerous MMOs, a significant majority of forum users who have claimed "I quit", "I canceled my account", "I'm done here", etc... actually haven't done as they claim. More often than not, they just make those statements for attention or to stir the pot.

True.

DireKit

Azarul wrote: »

Let them look just not comment.

Yeah. What they aught to do is make the forums visible to everyone, but only those who are subscribed can post.

nerevarine1138

stungateb14_ESO wrote: »

Elirienne wrote: »

stungateb14_ESO wrote: »

In a healthy society/relationship you must allow dissension.

Among those who belong to that society. People who do not play this game do not belong into our society.

My physical copy of CE Imperial edition says I do.

Are you subscribed to the game? Are you currently playing?

If the answer to both those questions is "No," you have nothing relevant to post on the forums.

GreySix

Nyswar wrote: »

stungateb14_ESO wrote: »

Elirienne wrote: »

stungateb14_ESO wrote: »

In a healthy society/relationship you must allow dissension.

Among those who belong to that society. People who do not play this game do not belong into our society.

My physical copy of CE Imperial edition says I do.

Are you subscribed to the game?

Really, that's the only point that matters. Folks do subscribe to more than one game, often taking "breaks" from one MMO at a time IOT focus on another.

Yet their points on why they're taking said break are often valid.

dafraorb16_ESO

No sub accounts shouldn't be able to posting.
The forum right now is full of Wowstar player that spread hate and bad propaganda

Justan

dafraorb16_ESO wrote: »

No sub accounts shouldn't be able to posting.
The forum right now is full of Wowstar player that spread hate and bad propaganda

I really WANT to love ESO, but it's very flawed at end game. Perhaps more so than any MMO i've ever played in the last decade.

And as for posting on the forums, i still have 150 days or so... should i not be allowed to post and tell them that their end game is garbage because it offends fanboys?

Again, if you want to refund me personally for the 150 days i have left i'll gladly leave.

nerevarine1138

Justan wrote: »

dafraorb16_ESO wrote: »

No sub accounts shouldn't be able to posting.
The forum right now is full of Wowstar player that spread hate and bad propaganda

I really WANT to love ESO, but it's very flawed at end game. Perhaps more so than any MMO i've ever played in the last decade.

And as for posting on the forums, i still have 150 days or so... should i not be allowed to post and tell them that their end game is garbage because it offends fanboys?

Again, if you want to refund me personally for the 150 days i have left i'll gladly leave.

Are you still playing the game? Then feel free to post.

If you aren't playing the game, then you aren't currently experiencing endgame, and you have no relevant feedback to provide.

Also, every time you use the word "fanboy," Stendarr kills a kitten.

GreySix

Nyswar wrote: »

If you aren't playing the game, then you aren't currently experiencing endgame, and you have no relevant feedback to provide.

Have the developers yet modified the main story instances to allow anything but forced-solo play?

If the answer is no, then I've still got a dog in the fight ... and I'll post about it.

Justan

Nyswar wrote: »

Justan wrote: »

dafraorb16_ESO wrote: »

No sub accounts shouldn't be able to posting.
The forum right now is full of Wowstar player that spread hate and bad propaganda

I really WANT to love ESO, but it's very flawed at end game. Perhaps more so than any MMO i've ever played in the last decade.

And as for posting on the forums, i still have 150 days or so... should i not be allowed to post and tell them that their end game is garbage because it offends fanboys?

Again, if you want to refund me personally for the 150 days i have left i'll gladly leave.

Are you still playing the game? Then feel free to post.

If you aren't playing the game, then you aren't currently experiencing endgame, and you have no relevant feedback to provide.

Also, every time you use the word "fanboy," Stendarr kills a kitten.

I logged in yesterday. I'm vet 12 already and desperate for something of quality at endgame, but it's non existent.

I paid for my days, and that entitles me to get on the forums until it runs out. If you want to refund me out of your own pocket, again, i'll disappear and never come back.

I'm keeping an eye on ESO because i waited a decade for it and really WANT to love it. But it doesn't love me back.

I'm no wildstar fanboy (that game is just as bad) and i'm no WoW fanboy either since i haven't been there since WOTLK, but as an ESO fanboy (or former fanboy) i have the right to tell them that they dropped the ball big time with ESO end game content. Seriously, whoever thought of vet levels needs to permanently wear a dunce hat around Zenimax offices. it's the single worst idea in recent MMO history.

I'm not playing any other MMO atm, again, i really wanted and expected to luv ESO for a long time... but it's not ready for prime time yet and launched a year or so early. I can't help but have the distinct feeling we are beta testers for the console version this xmas or whenever it drops.

If they keep with this current vet content as endgame, they will have to pull a FF14 and revamp the entire game eventually because it's so very unpopular.

ESO is a shizo game at the end of the day. It's stuck somewhere between a single player ES game and a traditional MMO and it doesn't compete well enough on either front. You could always load up skyrim with mods for a better ES experience, and there's a myriad of MMO's that offer more social experiences with actual end game that has more than 5 seconds of thought put into it.

seaef

I'm convinced that a lot of the vocal minority are paying $15 a month so they can play World of Forumcraft.

How about changing the policy so you lose your forum access if:

• You haven't logged into the game for over 30 days, or
• Your sub runs out

whichever comes first.

To reactivate your forum account, you must have an active sub.

Justan

cfurlin wrote: »

I'm convinced that a lot of the vocal minority are paying $15 a month so they can play World of Forumcraft.

How about changing the policy so you lose your forum access if:

• You haven't logged into the game for over 30 days, or
• Your sub runs out

whichever comes first.

I assumed you did lose your forum access when your sub runs out. As long as you have X playtime on your account, you have the right to post until X playtime is up. Whether or not you log into the game.

I'm not a troll, i genuinely want to love ESO because it's the only MMO i planned to play this year. WS i sampled and it's a joke. Archeage and EQN are f2p so they automatically lose my interest forever, so i'm really left with few options after ESO so i really want ESO to do well... but in order for that to happen, Zenimax needs to understand that their current idea of endgame is a resounding failure and needs to be revamped ASAP or face an even bigger exodus of players as more people experience the vet content, which is a miserable grind.

Bangstin

cfurlin wrote: »

I'm convinced that a lot of the vocal minority are paying $15 a month so they can play World of Forumcraft.

How about changing the policy so you lose your forum access if:

• You haven't logged into the game for over 30 days, or
• Your sub runs out

whichever comes first.

To reactivate your forum account, you must have an active sub.

Wonder why for example people don't play that much forum wars in Guild Wars 2 forums even when it's free to play and you keep your forums priviledges indefinately?

Cogo

You can not reply or start post on WoW forums unless you have an active Blizzard account. Whoever said WoW forums allow anyone to post just proves how useless their info is.

stungateb14_ESO

Yes and No but neither is relative to my ability to post on these forums.

First you ban negative post made by those without a subscription then after you realize that doesn't stop negative posting or trolling as some would have you believe then you ban subscribers from posting negative comments and what you end up with is something similar to 1600's Puritan America or 1930's Germany or current day China, North Korea, Iran etc etc is that what you really want?

Dissent is not unhealthy being a sheeple is without getting into the specifics of the virtues and vices of the two I'll just use the analogy of H.G Wells novel : The Time Machine specifically the Morlocks and Eloi you decide which is which.

But as someone has posted earlier my time here is coming to an end and as such ESO will not be graced with my presence neither on the forums or in game which to me is a great disappointment since over the last 1+ years I've devoted a lot of time to and is by far the shortest time I've ever given a MMORPG since the days of UO-EQ-Lineage-10six-Shadowbane-DAOC-WoW-AOC-GW-GW2.

You win...or did you?

seaef

Bangstin wrote: »

Wonder why for example people don't play that much forum wars in Guild Wars 2 forums even when it's free to play and you keep your forums priviledges indefinately?

Wut?

Have not been to the GW2 forums? It sounds eerily similar to the ambient noise in a daycare center...and not during nap time.

MajikMyst

Ojustaboo wrote: »

I think ex players should be allowed to post but only if they are constructive.

The problem with statements like this is that it assumes that people that play the game are incapable of writing destructive posts..

Whether or not someone writes a constructive post or not is dependent on the kind of person writing the post.. Not to mention your judgment on what is or isn't constructive..

People that are currently subscribed and actively playing the game are just as capable of writing horrible posts as anyone else.. So to single out the person that simply isn't playing at the moment is simply wrong.. You want to talk about a destructive posts or thread?? See this thread..

How does this thread improve the game in any way??

Let's also consider that most if not all of those negative threads are at least based on some truth.. This game is not perfect.. Bethesda would do themselves well to read the threads that are critical of the game.. Constructive or otherwise.. Except of course this one.. This thread is largely meaningless.. Just an attempt to discriminate against fellow players and turn the forums into a members only club so someone can feel special..

Everyone should have the right to voice their opinions about the game.. That is simply how it should be..

You should hold your standard to all, not just to people who are ex-players..

Ysne58

ZOS needs to make some real improvements -- including allowing at least duo grouping in forced solo quests. As far as grouping goes, they also need to allow those who want to, to solo the dungeons and they need to fix the phazing issues.

Fixing the forced solo quests that still aren't working properly.

They have made a step in the right directions by allowing the public test server to be a public test server. I did add one more month to my subscription because of that.

Depending on how things go in the next month, I may continue or let it lapse for awhile. I also have a very serious surgery coming up for pancreatic cancer that will limit play time both during the hospital stay and recovery and I may lapse my sub for that reason as well.

Daethz

Maybe ZOS should listen closely to their unsatisfied customers and try harder to fix the problems?

seaef

Daethz wrote: »

Maybe ZOS should listen closely to their unsatisfied customers and try harder to fix the problems?

There's a big difference between an unsatisfied customer and an entitlement baby with gas.