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Suggestion: Give Templar A Crafting Bonus

Genada
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For those that have them and those that may want to try them out it would be great if Templar had some kinda of crafting bonus.

This is a good idea for Templar because most Templar end up being banking and crafting toons.

As a secondary suggestion please add a costume we can wear as ex adventures and give us a emote that says we took a arrow to our mana regen.

Look at what is being created now, it's not Templar. This suggestion may at least encourage some to try the class.
  • Inco
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    LOL - I'm sorry this is so true.... My VR12 Templar now collects dust in a Craglorn bank and runs out for MATS and crafting once a day.

    ZOS - Please fix our class like NB's and put us on par with SORC's. Thx...
  • Dag86novanub19_ESO
    I play a Twmplar just fine between multiple roles, healer, tank and AOE DPS, what is wrong with Templars exactly?
  • ExiledKhallisi
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    min max kids lel.....conform they say! They still get wrecked in cyrodil....i dont understand.
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  • anakaki
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    I play a Twmplar just fine between multiple roles, healer, tank and AOE DPS, what is wrong with Templars exactly?

    Either your trolling or you haven't hit veteran content beyond 6+. If not, read the forums.
    Death Recap for Templars
    Have you tried rerolling to a Sorcerer or Dragonknight?
    Templars do more dps than DK's.
  • Pimbee
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    Even though Templar isn't nearly as wanted (not wanted at all) as the other classes for Craglorn; I have seen a good amount of people making Templars on my friends list and guild lists. At lower levels they'll probably think nothing is wrong with Templar, but once they hit mid-veteran ranks or Craglorn; I wonder what they'll be thinking about Templar compared to other classes they have.

    I thought about making my Templar the "All Crafter" once I hit VR12 since I really do not enjoy playing on her as much as my Sorcerer. I do love healing on my Templar, but I read and heard that NB and Sorc can out-heal a Templar, and so I am going to try out all 3 as healers and see for myself. If that's true, then I will be using my Templar as the crafter of everything and hang up her weapons and armor.

    I said all that to say this: I think the only way to actually get more permanent Templars is to either bring them up to Sorc or DK status, or bring Sorc and DK down so far that everyone just hates playing every class equally. I would prefer to buff Templars than to nerf Sorc and DK, but it doesn't seem to be going that way.

    My Templar will most likely be stuck to a crafting table.
  • Genada
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    Maybe to get them into end game they can also offer a bonus that let's them carry extra packs for DK and Sorcs as well.

    Every Templar you take in your group adds a temp bonus to inventory by five.
  • tplink3r1
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    I play a Twmplar just fine between multiple roles, healer, tank and AOE DPS, what is wrong with Templars exactly?
    you cant solo craglorn like the other 3 classes(this shows how strong they can be), you cant heal like a NB and you cant DD like sorc and DK.
    i know NBs are far from "op", but they are in fact better than templars in this moment.
    Edited by tplink3r1 on June 4, 2014 10:03PM
    VR16 Templar
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  • KracsNZ
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    Lol, my soloing build is now a light armor + sword/board (mitigation) + blazing shield/crescent sweep spammer. Solos really well against trash mobs in Craglorn... bosses not so much (one I can do is the named scorpion cause he hits like a girl). Glass canon build as if I run out of magicka (which happens really fast with blazing shield) I'm dead.

    Still miss old 5heavy/2light sword/board spec. Oh well.
  • Genada
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    They should also give Templar a bank alt title as well, that's what they have become so they deserve it.
  • KracsNZ
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    Genada wrote: »
    They should also give Templar a bank alt title as well, that's what they have become so they deserve it.

    How bout the "I'm so not a bot, plz don't banzor me even though my name is FGtdGTDGFS" title.
  • Phantorang
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    Templar DPS sucks ass, we arent even the best healers because we dont have any magicka regen, Sorcs with Resto staff are actually beating us with all their crit healing.

    We do have 1 ability that is very good with groups in boss fights etc: Backlash, it adds 36% more damage of the damage caused the last 7.2 sec.

    I do wish it was other reasons to bring Templars though, not only 1 ability.
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  • Drasn
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    Templar DPS sucks ass, we arent even the best healers because we dont have any magicka regen, Sorcs with Resto staff are actually beating us with all their crit healing.

    We do have 1 ability that is very good with groups in boss fights etc: Backlash, it adds 36% more damage of the damage caused the last 7.2 sec.

    I do wish it was other reasons to bring Templars though, not only 1 ability.

    You forgot to add that Sorcs are also heavy dpsing at the same time they are healing because of that mana regen.
  • LordEcks
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    You forgot to add that Sorcs are also heavy dpsing at the same time they are healing because of that mana regen.

    This.

    This is the reason why we suck.

    Our heals are stronger, Sorcs can go for longer yes....
    but the true root of the problem lies in the fact that Sorcs .. because of their mana regen and badass abilities can also effectively DPS while healing.

    We.. can shoot weak little red streams of energy like the guns from Ghostbusters that do next to nothing.. all for the sake of maintaing what medicore mana regen we can.

  • Apom
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    Templars should be able to DPS just as well as sorcs if sorcs can heal just as well as templar. Easy solution.
  • Drasn
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    LordEcks wrote: »

    You forgot to add that Sorcs are also heavy dpsing at the same time they are healing because of that mana regen.

    This.

    This is the reason why we suck.

    Our heals are stronger, Sorcs can go for longer yes....
    but the true root of the problem lies in the fact that Sorcs .. because of their mana regen and badass abilities can also effectively DPS while healing.

    We.. can shoot weak little red streams of energy like the guns from Ghostbusters that do next to nothing.. all for the sake of maintaing what medicore mana regen we can.

    Man, at least give me an agree before you go all crazy dude love on my post. :p
  • LordEcks
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    Man, at least give me an agree before you go all crazy dude love on my post. :p
    Sorry (. . )
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  • Genada
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    KracsNZ wrote: »
    Genada wrote: »
    They should also give Templar a bank alt title as well, that's what they have become so they deserve it.

    How bout the "I'm so not a bot, plz don't banzor me even though my name is FGtdGTDGFS" title.


    They could add a sound effect for when you use Biting Jab, "Donn't ban me bro!"
  • Soloeus
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    1. If there is to be a class with a crafting bonus, it should be a new class like Artifacer. Not a current class.

    2. This would punish everyone who has established crafting. They would be useless and forced to re-craft skills up and re-arrange their whole account.

    3. Sorcerers have weak healing. They can only heal when they use Power Surge and even then not as good as a Templar.

    4. Templars can pull nearly the same DPS as a sorc with just as good stuns.

    Sounds like you aren't really asking for a templar feature but yet another thread attacking sorcs.

    Learn to play.

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  • Sakiri
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    1. If there is to be a class with a crafting bonus, it should be a new class like Artifacer. Not a current class.

    2. This would punish everyone who has established crafting. They would be useless and forced to re-craft skills up and re-arrange their whole account.

    3. Sorcerers have weak healing. They can only heal when they use Power Surge and even then not as good as a Templar.

    4. Templars can pull nearly the same DPS as a sorc with just as good stuns.

    Sounds like you aren't really asking for a templar feature but yet another thread attacking sorcs.

    Learn to play.

    Sorcs using resto staves heal better than temps solely based on lasting power even discounting their dps.

    We arent talking self healing.
  • ARtChi
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    Sorc.jpg

    And he said that because, he is a friend... He knows for sure I such at dps...
  • Nashaan
    Nashaan
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    1. If there is to be a class with a crafting bonus, it should be a new class like Artifacer. Not a current class.

    2. This would punish everyone who has established crafting. They would be useless and forced to re-craft skills up and re-arrange their whole account.

    3. Sorcerers have weak healing. They can only heal when they use Power Surge and even then not as good as a Templar.

    4. Templars can pull nearly the same DPS as a sorc with just as good stuns.

    Sounds like you aren't really asking for a templar feature but yet another thread attacking sorcs.

    Learn to play.


    The OP was being sarcastic ... I'm guessing you missed that :)
  • ZoM_Head
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    Templar DPS sucks ass, we arent even the best healers because we dont have any magicka regen, Sorcs with Resto staff are actually beating us with all their crit healing.

    We do have 1 ability that is very good with groups in boss fights etc: Backlash, it adds 36% more damage of the damage caused the last 7.2 sec.

    I do wish it was other reasons to bring Templars though, not only 1 ability.

    Really now? My veteran 7 full on healer out heals everyone in a veteran dark anchor, especially sorcerers with resto staffs.

    Infact my healer actually stands sandwiched between two veteran 6 daedroths breathing fire on me and surviving just fine. Its those darn harvesters that worry me.

    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • Drasn
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    Templar DPS sucks ass, we arent even the best healers because we dont have any magicka regen, Sorcs with Resto staff are actually beating us with all their crit healing.

    We do have 1 ability that is very good with groups in boss fights etc: Backlash, it adds 36% more damage of the damage caused the last 7.2 sec.

    I do wish it was other reasons to bring Templars though, not only 1 ability.

    Really now? My veteran 7 full on healer out heals everyone in a veteran dark anchor, especially sorcerers with resto staffs.

    Infact my healer actually stands sandwiched between two veteran 6 daedroths breathing fire on me and surviving just fine. Its those darn harvesters that worry me.

    Bet those sorcs you claim to be outhealing are also DPSing a great deal more than you. That is why sorcs are better healers, not heal numbers.
  • rotiferuk
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    Genada wrote: »
    For those that have them and those that may want to try them out it would be great if Templar had some kinda of crafting bonus.
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    I would rather have a magicka regen ability.
    Genada wrote: »
    This is a good idea for Templar because most Templar end up being banking and crafting toons.
    .

    I play a Templar as my main. He is currently in the process of levelling to VR2, then VR3, then VR4, then.....well you get the idea.
    Genada wrote: »
    As a secondary suggestion please add a costume we can wear as ex adventures and give us a emote that says we took a arrow to our mana regen.
    .

    I already have suitable attire .......Heavy Armour.
    Genada wrote: »
    Look at what is being created now, it's not Templar. This suggestion may at least encourage some to try the class.

    There are plenty of people playing Templar.
    EU Server.
  • rotiferuk
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    Templar DPS sucks ass, we arent even the best healers because we dont have any magicka regen, Sorcs with Resto staff are actually beating us with all their crit healing.

    We do have 1 ability that is very good with groups in boss fights etc: Backlash, it adds 36% more damage of the damage caused the last 7.2 sec.

    I do wish it was other reasons to bring Templars though, not only 1 ability.

    Really now? My veteran 7 full on healer out heals everyone in a veteran dark anchor, especially sorcerers with resto staffs.

    Infact my healer actually stands sandwiched between two veteran 6 daedroths breathing fire on me and surviving just fine. Its those darn harvesters that worry me.

    Bet those sorcs you claim to be outhealing are also DPSing a great deal more than you. That is why sorcs are better healers, not heal numbers.

    Sorcs are better healers because of DPS? ROFLMHO
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  • KracsNZ
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    rotiferuk wrote: »
    Sorcs are better healers because of DPS? ROFLMHO

    He's stating Leaderboard Trial preference. Sorc/NB healer heals more than enough + providing high DPS. May take 1 Templar for Burning Light spam + healing...
  • reggielee
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    dumb if he is serious
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  • anakaki
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    rotiferuk wrote: »
    Phantorang wrote: »
    Templar DPS sucks ass, we arent even the best healers because we dont have any magicka regen, Sorcs with Resto staff are actually beating us with all their crit healing.

    We do have 1 ability that is very good with groups in boss fights etc: Backlash, it adds 36% more damage of the damage caused the last 7.2 sec.

    I do wish it was other reasons to bring Templars though, not only 1 ability.

    Really now? My veteran 7 full on healer out heals everyone in a veteran dark anchor, especially sorcerers with resto staffs.

    Infact my healer actually stands sandwiched between two veteran 6 daedroths breathing fire on me and surviving just fine. Its those darn harvesters that worry me.

    Bet those sorcs you claim to be outhealing are also DPSing a great deal more than you. That is why sorcs are better healers, not heal numbers.

    Sorcs are better healers because of DPS? ROFLMHO

    It's hard to understand when you lack the capability. Ill try to explain in short, small words, ok?

    Healing is negated due to barrier, blade of veils, siege shield, negate magic and so forth so with a crit surge sorcerer you can spam healing springs without going oom, with no casulties.

    So if there are no casulties and little to no healing needed, what do we do most of the time?

    And who has triple the dps of templars?

    Good boy!

    Sorcerer.
    Death Recap for Templars
    Have you tried rerolling to a Sorcerer or Dragonknight?
    Templars do more dps than DK's.
  • anakaki
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    KracsNZ wrote: »
    rotiferuk wrote: »
    Sorcs are better healers because of DPS? ROFLMHO

    He's stating Leaderboard Trial preference. Sorc/NB healer heals more than enough + providing high DPS. May take 1 Templar for Burning Light spam + healing...

    I'm sorry what? Am I missing a synergy here?

    Burning Light is Templar’s passive ability from Aedric Spear school. This passive gives your character chance to deal extra damage every time you hit target with your spear ability.

    What on earth has this to do with healing?
    Death Recap for Templars
    Have you tried rerolling to a Sorcerer or Dragonknight?
    Templars do more dps than DK's.
  • anakaki
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    rotiferuk wrote: »
    Genada wrote: »
    For those that have them and those that may want to try them out it would be great if Templar had some kinda of crafting bonus.
    .

    I would rather have a magicka regen ability.
    Genada wrote: »
    This is a good idea for Templar because most Templar end up being banking and crafting toons.
    .

    I play a Templar as my main. He is currently in the process of levelling to VR2, then VR3, then VR4, then.....well you get the idea.
    Genada wrote: »
    As a secondary suggestion please add a costume we can wear as ex adventures and give us a emote that says we took a arrow to our mana regen.
    .

    I already have suitable attire .......Heavy Armour.
    Genada wrote: »
    Look at what is being created now, it's not Templar. This suggestion may at least encourage some to try the class.

    There are plenty of people playing Templar.

    You won't wear heavy armor when you hit craglorn.
    Edited by anakaki on June 6, 2014 12:41PM
    Death Recap for Templars
    Have you tried rerolling to a Sorcerer or Dragonknight?
    Templars do more dps than DK's.
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