Will you quit or delay playing because of templar and nightblade balance?

SFBryan18

Where's the other option? I don't know if they are balanced and I don't care because I've always been a mage in TES.

felixgamingx1

I've already quit, or only log-on to feed mounts until after templars and nightblades are balanced or fixed.

This is a incredibly deceiving game the people who launched it took DDO which is free and created a paid version of a F2P title for them.

Snowstrider

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

pecheckler wrote: »

Snowstrider wrote: »

I will not quit playing,If i will thats not gonna be the reason for it.
I got a vr4 templar,Created a new character,Dragonknight,Been loving it. Mostly becouse.. Well.. I dont really enjoy vr content as much as i enjoys 1-50. Just got bored. And craglorn isnt really my thing i think,Besides i am too low leveled to try it and it will take a while until i become vr10. And as i said,Kinda got bored with vr content.

I don't understand. It's the same content besides craglorn. Are you sure it's not just the hosed templar class which you didn't like?

Thats it,Its just the same,Not much new. And well,I got weaker with my templar yes,But thats not my main reason. Everything just feels dull and empty after a while. And starting a new character is better,At least i am having more fun then the veteran content,First zones can be boring as hell. But gets better,And well yeah. Now i am a dragonknight,Much more fun. So the templar being boring may be one of the reasons.

The game still need something which brings the community together and put life into the community. I would love to see a rp/social/community/fun stuff update.

tplink3r1

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

moXrox wrote: »

tplink3r1 wrote: »

templars are the only class that cant solo craglorn, even nightblades can do that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU

More than a week ago only Dragonknights could dot it. - people said nerf DK nobody else cant achieve this.
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Some days ago only Dragonknights and Sorcerer could do it - people said show a Nightblade do the same with their broken abilities and didt not believe it is possible.

Only short time ago a Nightblade could do it. - people saying a Templar cant do it.




Where is the video about a Templar which shows that this class cant do it ?

templars have -> 0 <- magicka management abilities, it is IMPOSSIBLE to solo without magicka.

Dayv

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

My first character was a NB. I really wanted an archer character, more a ranger/hunter than a rogue and thought that NB was probably the best class to base that on. I've got to VR7 but I've just got a bit bored with struggling through trash mobs and after 1.1.2 started a DK (now lv 38) which I spend my time playing while my NB has been relegated to crafting. I might play more actively with the NB if something is done about a) how ridiculously scaled VR trash mobs are and b) NB abilities get fixed but I've never really been that interested in rogue type characters so I might become more attached to my DK unless bows become viable.

ThyIronFist

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a sorcerer or dragon knight.

Nightblades do not need buffs. L2P issue. They will wreck you in any 1v1 situation.

But Templars need some love, some minor buffing here and there, but that's it. Overall both classes need to be fixed, but don't overly buff them.


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pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Innocente wrote: »

The poll does not even have selections for the questions asked in the title. Another useless poll.

There is a single question asked:

Will you quit or delay playing = option 1
Other = options 2,3, and 4.

Please stop with the harassing posts especially when they bring nothing to discussions. That seems to be the majority of your thread comments.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

I'm not too worried about balance at this point, since we're only 2 months in.

I just want my Hand-to-Hand skill line...

/criessoftly

CosmicChaos

I couldn't select a choice. I believe there is still some fine tuning to be done across the board. I am hoping this comes in the form of buffing weaker builds not nerfing the good ones. I do pretty good soloing my v5 Templar in PVE and I know better than to try and solo most PVP encounters. But I love supporting my alliance in Cyrodiil with CC and Breath of Life now and then. Even if I have trouble finding a group most days and end up following a mob.

peter.harkessnrb18_ESO

My NB is VR4 and shelved, My Templar is VR2 and shelved, I'm playing DK and hopefully will get that to VR 12. If the MMO market wasn't so weak right now I wouldn't be playing this game at all

born2beagator

I'm more irritated with melee. I'm a DW nightblade and I have hacked and slashed my way through 1-50 with a bow to support, and low and behold when I get to vet 1 I am struggling to kill two man trash mobs.

This is not cool. Either tone down the difficulty of regular vet content, or make melee builds viable.

I'm going to an alt until zenimax does something about vet content difficulty for melee builds. I refuse to change the way I have been playing the entire game because zenimax made vet content to cater only to groups. I'm refusing to change not because I'm arrogant and don't want to be wrong...I'm refusing to change because I LIKE PLAYING THIS WAY.

temjiu

when it comes to balance it's really a matter of degree. There will always be "class imbalance" in MMO's, some of it can be quite subjective as well.

The point in which it becomes exceedingly frustrating/difficult for certain classes to finish the game (and when some need "shoehorned/glitched" setups to work, such as the NB), is when things need to be looked at.

ESO simply isn't there yet. This isn't the only reason I cancelled, but it is one of at least a dozen that eventually pushed me away. I still browse the forums, hoping to see the balance changes that will make it playable for me and my templar, but i just can't continue paying my money when I can't really enjoy 2/3 of the game because I'm not playing a staff wielding light armor mage-(insert class name here).
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Edit: on the flip side...I'm liking the reactions I'm seeing from them. it's a good sign. the only problem is I still log in, and then realize that I wont get far because im not carrying a staff. so i check my mail for crafting mats and log out (until my sub runs out)

Thulsola

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a templar or nightblade.

... I think the balance of the game can be improved AND I'm playing and enjoying my NB.

And I do have to agree, as polls go, it was pretty obvious you were trying to force a particular answer.

bean19

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a templar or nightblade.

I don't like this poll because:

1. Templars will be back to awesome after tomorrow's patch removes the nerf to Puncturing Strikes.

2. Nightblades actually aren't bad if you play them as a stealth-stamina build. I actually love getting off a huge first hit on things with them and I have several builds that are effective. Where they lag behind are things that other classes are amazing at like ultimates and that becomes a huge deal in the endgame when people are playing trials and the fastest/safest way to beat them is to have everyone spam resto-staff and use AoE ultimates. Nightblades don't have one AND the good NB builds are stamina based, so they aren't great with a resto-staff either. This leaves them out in the cold. The "fixes" to them really don't look at this flaw. Also, you get a lot of NBs using bow, which has good CC and white damage, but has very expensive skills if you look at them from dps divided by their stamina cost.

Anyway, I voted for both of them being okay because the poll is ridiculously constructed.

born2beagator

Thulsola wrote: »

... I think the balance of the game can be improved AND I'm playing and enjoying my NB.

And I do have to agree, as polls go, it was pretty obvious you were trying to force a particular answer.

I was too until I found that it can't solo any vet content the consists of more than one enemy at a time without an "epic fight"

Morbus2

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a templar or nightblade.

Just another whiner crying about sorc>NB.

Nox_Aeterna

I've already quit, or only log-on to feed mounts until after templars and nightblades are balanced or fixed.

I dont even know how many days i have left ... 5/6 i think.

After that my sub runs out , zen might try to fix it +- tomorrow , but if bitting jabs is not working 100% , i will just let the sub run out.

temjiu

ThyIronFist wrote: »

Nightblades do not need buffs. L2P issue. They will wreck you in any 1v1 situation.

But Templars need some love, some minor buffing here and there, but that's it. Overall both classes need to be fixed, but don't overly buff them.

It's sort of funny to be on the receiving end of this, when I've so often stated it in other MMO's I've played (though I'm usually respectful about it). people whine about leaving, and I've told them " good luck. don't let the door hit you on the way out". sort of a humbling experience.

I may never come back. I may though, if they carry through with all the changes that they are discussing. pander as much as you want...it's pretty obvious that the company has realized that they need to make changes due to the amount of people who are leaving.

Any company that wants to make a AAA level game like this needs to bring in a certain amount of money to make it. The sheer fact that they ARE making changes tells me that the people whom you hope "never come back" are in fact the ones that are convincing the company to change the game.

And no...It's not the whining on the forums. If you've ever worked for a big company before with allot of public exposure, you'll know that decisions are made on metrics far more detailed then emotional rantings on forums..though the ebb and flow of those rantings will often be included in those decisions...but not as much as most players think.

But, in another way, I do agree with you that if people are un-subbing SOLELY because of the class imbalance, then that is pretty foolish. but...if you read between the lines (and actually read most the posts in the forums) you'll realize that most people are leaving for dozens of reasons that built up. Class balance may be the last straw for some. my last straw was something different...but class balance is still an important issue.

Calgrissom

tplink3r1 wrote: »

templars are the only class that cant solo craglorn, even nightblades can do that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU

Do it in anything but cloth with a destroy/resto staff combo and ill be impressed.

Nooblet

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a sorcerer or dragon knight.

I was torn with the choices. I wanted to choose option 1, but I am a Sorc. And I don't think templars and nightblades are near as bad off as ppl make them out to be.

Calgrissom

bean19 wrote: »

I don't like this poll because:

1. Templars will be back to awesome after tomorrow's patch removes the nerf to Puncturing Strikes.

2. Nightblades actually aren't bad if you play them as a stealth-stamina build. I actually love getting off a huge first hit on things with them and I have several builds that are effective. Where they lag behind are things that other classes are amazing at like ultimates and that becomes a huge deal in the endgame when people are playing trials and the fastest/safest way to beat them is to have everyone spam resto-staff and use AoE ultimates. Nightblades don't have one AND the good NB builds are stamina based, so they aren't great with a resto-staff either. This leaves them out in the cold. The "fixes" to them really don't look at this flaw. Also, you get a lot of NBs using bow, which has good CC and white damage, but has very expensive skills if you look at them from dps divided by their stamina cost.

Anyway, I voted for both of them being okay because the poll is ridiculously constructed.

Picturing strikes is still being nerfed just in a different way. going from a .5 second cast to a 1.2 second cast with a higher base magica cost on a class that is already starved for magica. Its a ridiculous nerf.

Cogo

This is a skill based game, where new skills will be introduced. Where balance is a constant project for the developers.

If someone would only play until they think their char is "broken" and cant even wait for a fix......I am not sure how many times of this, a person like that will accept this. Because this will happen again, and again, and again.

My base for this is other games that mix pvp and pve. Its a constant struggle with balance.

You may be right. Your skill is not as good as someone else. How good then that ESO is a game where your personal skill overcomes your character.

Lynx7386

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Funny that both of the classes I chose to play are the ones that are underdeveloped, underpowered, and full of bugs.

Drasn

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

As a V12 templar I can say that compared to sorc and dk(both of which I have at V3 now) the templar class is underwhelming. Both the sorc and DK at 9 vet levels lower can run circles around the templar. Hell, my V3 dk can solo group instances in craglorn, my templar....not even close.

sylviermoone

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a templar or nightblade.

I know there are passives that have not worked correctly for NB's since launch, but my main is a lvl 33 DW NB, I pretty much use only class abilities, and I'm not having much trouble in groups or solo content.

My husband plays a 2H Templar, and he has the same experience as me, though he uses his weapon skills a little more frequently. Same level.

Granted, we can't take down a VR12 in PvP, but we've taken plenty of VR6's down together. :-)

There are issues, certainly, but neither of us feels underpowered.

Drasn

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

sylviermoone wrote: »

I know there are passives that have not worked correctly for NB's since launch, but my main is a lvl 33 DW NB, I pretty much use only class abilities, and I'm not having much trouble in groups or solo content.

My husband plays a 2H Templar, and he has the same experience as me, though he uses his weapon skills a little more frequently. Same level.

Granted, we can't take down a VR12 in PvP, but we've taken plenty of VR6's down together. :-)

There are issues, certainly, but neither of us feels underpowered.

Just wait for it, the imbalance doesn't become blatantly obvious until much later.

Laura

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a sorcerer or dragon knight.

BIAS

Aeradon

I've already quit, or only log-on to feed mounts until after templars and nightblades are balanced or fixed.

On halt. But I think if RL isn't so hectic I would still be playing with the underpowered NB.

I dislike the idea that it gave me an excuse to tend to RL stuff.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

I play a Bow/DW/Vamp NB in v5 atm, I say the templars need more help than us. Nightblades simply have silly or bugged abilities, the templar class as a whole is just missing something to make them viable in VR content.

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Needs fixes asap..