Will you quit or delay playing because of templar and nightblade balance?

pecheckler

For accuracy sake please only vote #2 or #4 if you main a sorcerer or dragon knight.

brandon

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

I play a Templar and they need fixing but I'm not going to let that stop me from enjoying myself.

anakaki

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

pecheckler wrote: »

For accuracy sake please only vote #2 or #4 if you main a sorcerer or dragon knight.

Sorry but those saying either is fine isn't playing the class.
Pointless poll, sorry.

Ysne58

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Right now it's the forced solo content that is making me seriously consider quitting. I can't even get to vet level areas because of the forced solo crap.

pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

anakaki wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

For accuracy sake please only vote #2 or #4 if you main a sorcerer or dragon knight.

Sorry but those saying either is fine isn't playing the class.
Pointless poll, sorry.

I understand your first comment, but it's not like there's a poll option to prevent players with no templar or nightblade experience from voting.

As for pointless, why? I would think everyone wants to see the numbers, not thousands of comments split across hundreds of threads and a dozen sub-forums on the topic.

Seroczynski

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a sorcerer or dragon knight.

My nightblade friends (3) own the *** out of people in PVP. They are capable of high-dps single-target using a bow and sustained aoe dps using a destruction staff. I know the NB skills have bugs, but they don't feel like they are underpowered.

Ysne58

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

I have now decided that I am not going to renew my subscription until the forced solo content is changed.

At the very least the companions they send with you should do more than stand there playing with themselves the way Merric does or looking helpless like Abnar and Lyris do.

The bugs with the harvesters and my skills randomly not working need to be fixed.

My personal opinion is that none of the quests in the mage, fighters or main guild quest lines should ever have been forced solo.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_KaiSchober‌ please be advised that I do not make this decision lightly. Something needs to be done.

pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Seroczynski wrote: »

My nightblade friends (3) own the *** out of people in PVP. They are capable of high-dps single-target using a bow and sustained aoe dps using a destruction staff. I know the NB skills have bugs, but they don't feel like they are underpowered.

I don't feel individual class balance means much in such large scale PvP. I did want to leave the balance issues open to personal interpretation without specifics, but overall I did intend this toll to be about templar and nightblade PvE effectiveness.

The_Drexill

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a sorcerer or dragon knight.

Sorc here, but I see a lot of NB's especially that do the same dps as sorcs do. I really don't think NB's have a lot of trouble... they do good in PvP and PvE. Temps have a few minor problems, but they're easy tweaks.

brandon

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Ysne58 wrote: »

Right now it's the forced solo content that is making me seriously consider quitting. I can't even get to vet level areas because of the forced solo crap.

if you don't mind me asking why can't you get to vet lvls do you get bored or is it to hard or something else

Turelus

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a templar or nightblade.

My Nightblade is working fine for me at the moment, but I happen to play a heavy armour tanks which apparently skips a lot of the issues with the class.

I don't think an underpowered class is worth leaving a game over, find me an MMO where there isn't a class that's weaker for some period of time before balance changes?

pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Turelus wrote: »

My Nightblade is working fine for me at the moment, but I happen to play a heavy armour tanks which apparently skips a lot of the issues with the class.

I don't think an underpowered class is worth leaving a game over, find me an MMO where there isn't a class that's weaker for some period of time before balance changes?

Time is money and money is subscribers. Zenimax takes far longer to resolve issues then I have experienced with other MMO games. Remember when it took them over a month to fix vampires who could take on 50 players in PvP? In many other games that would have been an emergency hotfix within a day.

Ysne58

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

brandon wrote: »

Ysne58 wrote: »

Right now it's the forced solo content that is making me seriously consider quitting. I can't even get to vet level areas because of the forced solo crap.

if you don't mind me asking why can't you get to vet lvls do you get bored or is it to hard or something else

I cannot beat the harvesters in the forced solo quests, except Doshia which got nerfed way too much.

Natjur

In Craglorn, there are just two type of groups. V1-V11 grind exp groups. V12 Trail runs.

No on is doing the normal grouping anymore, so I can't get any quests done. V12 Trials only wants Sorc and DK dps and will not take another templar (they will have one already for healing)

So there is nothing to do. PVP is broken, Templar DPS is broken and no one wants to do the end game grouping.

All the V1 that got to V12 in a day or so grinding exp, they then go back to the V1 zones to do all the quests they bypassed. Its so strange seeing V12 who don't even have access to V1 zones as they have not even finished the main quest lines!

Until my sub runs out, I have been logging on to research and looking for a quest group, 2hrs later I give up and log out. Craglorn has some really cool quests, but no one does them. Allowing non V10's into Craglorn was a stupid mistake by ESO

pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Natjur wrote: »

In Craglorn, there are just two type of groups. V1-V11 grind exp groups. V12 Trail runs.

No on is doing the normal grouping anymore, so I can't get any quests done. V12 Trials only wants Sorc and DK dps and will not take another templar (they will have one already for healing)

So there is nothing to do. PVP is broken, Templar DPS is broken and no one wants to do the end game grouping.

All the V1 that got to V12 in a day or so grinding exp, they then go back to the V1 zones to do all the quests they bypassed. Its so strange seeing V12 who don't even have access to V1 zones as they have not even finished the main quest lines!

Until my sub runs out, I have been logging on to research and looking for a quest group, 2hrs later I give up and log out. Craglorn has some really cool quests, but no one does them. Allowing non V10's into Craglorn was a stupid mistake by ESO

This is a perfect to-do list for the developers Monday morning meeting.

Hodorius

I will continue to play, my main is an NB and as long we have bugged passives/actives I am not able to make an objective comparisation.

With my Bow I am able to get 600+ dps without crit/dmg potions on a single target ( without Impale ).
I screw up sometimes my "rota".

There are Bow using NBs in my guild who get more ( around 1k )... you need to time the right abilities perfectly to achieve this.

If Haste was fixed it would be around 800 while I screw up...

I don´t care if someone has more with spamming one/two buttons.

tplink3r1

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

templars are the only class that cant solo craglorn, even nightblades can do that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU

Dusty5

I was so upset by this issue I could not vote. I had to run and get a warm cookie and a hug from my panda.

deathperadoeb17_ESO

I've already quit, or only log-on to feed mounts until after templars and nightblades are balanced or fixed.

Well, i think, i will have to cancel my sub until - if at all - templar issues will be sorted. I had highest of hopes and i am very forgiving for bugs - it is new game after all. But templar - i mean heavy armor, melee weapons using templar shows, that whoever was designing this class and many other things had no idea what is he doing. And all of fanboys and min-maximizers can put the staff and light armor in -cenzored-

Snowstrider

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

I will not quit playing,If i will thats not gonna be the reason for it.
I got a vr4 templar,Created a new character,Dragonknight,Been loving it. Mostly becouse.. Well.. I dont really enjoy vr content as much as i enjoys 1-50. Just got bored. And craglorn isnt really my thing i think,Besides i am too low leveled to try it and it will take a while until i become vr10. And as i said,Kinda got bored with vr content.

eduardo_goncalveseb17_ESO

I've already quit, or only log-on to feed mounts until after templars and nightblades are balanced or fixed.

1 week left..

Nerf me, ill nerf you ( 1 less subscription ).

simple.

pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Snowstrider wrote: »

I will not quit playing,If i will thats not gonna be the reason for it.
I got a vr4 templar,Created a new character,Dragonknight,Been loving it. Mostly becouse.. Well.. I dont really enjoy vr content as much as i enjoys 1-50. Just got bored. And craglorn isnt really my thing i think,Besides i am too low leveled to try it and it will take a while until i become vr10. And as i said,Kinda got bored with vr content.

I don't understand. It's the same content besides craglorn. Are you sure it's not just the hosed templar class which you didn't like?

pknecron

I didn't like any of those choices.

moXrox

When a Dragonknight and Sorcerer, even a Nightblade can solo Craglorn content.

* with a staff and light armor


I rather would ask for a balance between melee and staff aswell other armor types.

Nobody should be able to solo group content.

This game is rather "The Elder Staffs".

There is too much content where you need AoE in this game and melee weapons are in a disadvantage.


Diversity of class builds should be possible and not Light Armor + Staff only the none plus ultra.

moXrox

tplink3r1 wrote: »

templars are the only class that cant solo craglorn, even nightblades can do that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU

More than a week ago only Dragonknights could dot it. - people said nerf DK nobody else cant achieve this.
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Some days ago only Dragonknights and Sorcerer could do it - people said show a Nightblade do the same with their broken abilities and didt not believe it is possible.

Only short time ago a Nightblade could do it. - people saying a Templar cant do it.




Where is the video about a Templar which shows that this class cant do it ?

pecheckler

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

moXrox wrote: »

tplink3r1 wrote: »

templars are the only class that cant solo craglorn, even nightblades can do that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU

More than a week ago only Dragonknights could dot it. - people said nerf DK nobody else cant achieve this.
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Some days ago only Dragonknights and Sorcerer could do it - people said show a Nightblade do the same with their broken abilities and didt not believe it is possible.

Only short time ago a Nightblade could do it. - people saying a Templar cant do it.




Where is the video about a Templar which shows that this class cant do it ?

Regardless this is hardly an accurate measurement of a classes PvE effectiveness.

brandon

I will continue to play but agree that templar and nightblade classes are under-powered and not equally desired end-game.

Ysne58 wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

Ysne58 wrote: »

Right now it's the forced solo content that is making me seriously consider quitting. I can't even get to vet level areas because of the forced solo crap.

if you don't mind me asking why can't you get to vet lvls do you get bored or is it to hard or something else

I cannot beat the harvesters in the forced solo quests, except Doshia which got nerfed way too much.

I've heard those fights can be tough, it makes me feel like I'm doing something right. I've done the fight in the halls of torment that people have issues with on two toons and have beaten it first try.

david271749

Templars and nightblades are fine. My main is a templar or nightblade.

Should be an option for "Git gud, OP"

Westcoast14_ESO

pecheckler wrote: »

Will you quit or delay playing because of templar and nightblade balance?

Quitting an MMO over a Class balance issue seems kind of odd. Class balance is always in motion and its highly build and execution dependent. For me, staying or not depends on whether I like the game overall, or dislike the game overall.

I stopped playing NB as a main because I found the game play less engaging than the game play for Sorcerer. Although broadly I think DK is the strongest class currently, I didn't roll a DK because the game play looked less engaging to me than the NB game play I was used to. For similar reasons I didn't roll a Templar.

As things stand now, I mostly play Sorcerer because it's currently the most interesting class to me currently, and I periodically log in to play NB because its the second most interesting. If I had more time I'd also play a DK (but not a Templar as things currently stand).

vicNBitis

I've already quit, or only log-on to feed mounts until after templars and nightblades are balanced or fixed.

Yeah, some of us said the problems in the extreme videos are separate from the problems with balance. I'm going to go out on a limb and say we were(and still are) right.

By the way, the difficulty on some fights can depend a lot(like a whole lot) on which faction you are. The Doshia fight for one faction is in a smallish room which could make it a bit difficult for some builds. So maybe the person complaining about the difficulty was fighting that Doshia and other people who say it's easy were fighting one of the other 2. Things are usually more complicated than L2P. Just sayin'....

Innocente

The poll does not even have selections for the questions asked in the title. Another useless poll.