Would you like CLASS CHANGE? +++

Surinen

Classes: enemies, enemies, enemies, friends or bystanders? Choose for yourself OR listen to your wiser cousin and follow the way of cutheart: 3

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

*note* fragnance is an Altmer way, pure way of spelling.
and do not ask why 'by all what is' instead of 'by all that is".
you are not a heretic, are you?

Khazaad

I would... but everybody knows class mobility is almost impossible in today's society.

... wait. what was the question?

Gwarok

Surinen wrote: »

Classes: enemies, enemies, enemies, friends or bystanders? Choose for yourself OR listen to your wiser cousin and follow the way of cutheart: 3
yes Sir, I would love to be able to change my class, experience new abilities and animations. reroll is not for me!
lul naah Sirrah Kaptin, I ain't no changeling yo. yo know, balancez, issues and such system abuzez. haha rofl spoiled internet kids wunt sum more entitlement
*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Somewhere in the real World a 4th grade English teacher just shed a tear.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

where's the "yes, i would like a danish with my coffee" option. because thats what im voting for.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

I appreciate your sense of humour, but please, stay on topic

AlexDougherty

lul naah Sirrah Kaptin, I ain't no changeling yo. yo know, balancez, issues and such system abuzez. haha rofl spoiled internet kids wunt sum more entitlement

Giving the options silly language doesn't distract from the fact we don't need a change class option, we have three factions, reroll and play a different faction.

Nox_Aeterna

yes Sir, I would love to be able to change my class, experience new abilities and animations. reroll is not for me!

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Giving the options silly language doesn't distract from the fact we don't need a change class option, we have three factions, reroll and play a different faction.

Yeah ... you see , im almost vet10 on my templar , i already did those quests and no , im not doing them again , so nah dont think so.

Even more , because that would my guild would then turn useless since it is linked to my faction and that is where everyones keeps their mains.

This game is trully limited when it comes to lvling , that is all there is to it.

Tannakaobi

Jeremy_gelber_ESO wrote: »

where's the "yes, i would like a danish with my coffee" option. because thats what im voting for.

Yep, that makes more sense than the thread!

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Giving the options silly language doesn't distract from the fact we don't need a change class option, we have three factions, reroll and play a different faction.

silly? the most accurate I say.
'we'? pluralis maiestatis or it happens that you speak on behalf of TES players, Mister Hist?
Why rerolling if you experience other factions quests during veteran leveling?

Lord Surinen says: keep TES pure, even, NO, especially if it is an mmo. class presets should be optional, just like it was pre TES V. building your own hero, freedom of choice is of numidian proportions. never forget that!

Tannakaobi wrote: »

Jeremy_gelber_ESO wrote: »

where's the "yes, i would like a danish with my coffee" option. because thats what im voting for.

Yep, that makes more sense than the thread!

please, do not offtopic. if this thread is beyond your understanding, then please, simply refrain from commenting.

InspectorGanja

yes Sir, I would love to be able to change my class, experience new abilities and animations. reroll is not for me!

Good Idea, altough it will never come

Ragnar_Lodbrok

lul naah Sirrah Kaptin, I ain't no changeling yo. yo know, balancez, issues and such system abuzez. haha rofl spoiled internet kids wunt sum more entitlement

Hard to read OPs ebonics (i think). I speak only english. I think I answered no.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Hard to read OPs ebonics (i think). I speak only english. I think I answered no.

I confirm it. your answer is "no, I do not want class change nor freedom for skill lines". an answer also known as "the worst".

InspectorGanja wrote: »

Good Idea, altough it will never come

If I remember correctly, developers said something about giving players an opportunity to play other classes without resorting to reroll. there is a hgh chance that what I have just said is wrong.

Wargasmo

Rather than class change, which seems excessive and unnecessary, I'd really like class balance.

Still_Mind

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Was never a big fan of a class system in an TES setting. But I do realize that it's the only thing preventing everyone from playing 1-2 cookiecutter FOTM setups.

smercgames_ESO

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Still_Mind wrote: »

Was never a big fan of a class system in an TES setting. But I do realize that it's the only thing preventing everyone from playing 1-2 cookiecutter FOTM setups.

Except... the majority of people already do play 1-2 cookie cutter fotm setups (It's all about the impulse)... sooo the only difference is people couldn't complain that X class is OP because there are no classes and you could do the exact same. The problem right now is 2 classes are vastly superior due to class skills but no matter what class you play staves beat out weapons.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Wargasmo wrote: »

Rather than class change, which seems excessive and unnecessary, I'd really like class balance.

it is quite necessary for those who wish to play with different animations, bring life into their decades old characters (from previous TES installations).

Still_Mind wrote: »

Was never a big fan of a class system in an TES setting. But I do realize that it's the only thing preventing everyone from playing 1-2 cookiecutter FOTM setups.

let them. if online formula makes them drop what they like for the sake of what hits stronger. then let them. wonder of previous TES installation was that people were using whatever fitted their preferences wiithout putting too much mind into min/max. so yes, if mmo form puts pressure on someone, then let him compete with others. alienating classical TES players is not well received, at least by me.

Wargasmo

Surinen wrote: »

Wargasmo wrote: »

Rather than class change, which seems excessive and unnecessary, I'd really like class balance.

it is quite necessary for those who wish to play with different animations, bring life into their decades old characters (from previous TES installations).

Do you want to play zoomed in first person all the time, be able to save the game before hard encounters, and spend hours and hours foos- ro-dah'ing npc's off cliffs too?

This game is MMO first and Elder scrolls second. I've always said that the biggest problem with an Elder Scrolls MMO is that you get stuck playing with Elder Scrolls fans in your mmo.

Elder Scrolls is beloved of casual gamers and an entire generation of stoners alike. but MMO players are a different breed

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Wargasmo wrote: »

Do you want to play zoomed in first person all the time and be able to save the game before hard encounters too?

This game is MMO first and Elder scrolls second. I've always said that the biggest problem with an Elder Scrolls MMO is that you get stuck playing with Elder Scrolls fans in your mmo.

no, I may pass on it.

when I look at the main page of TESO I see THE ELDER SCROLLS with smaller online below it. I've always said that the biggest problem with Elder Scrolls mmo is that people get stuck on the term 'mmo', or rather its unwritten quasi-hood definition of the limit (and glorified sense of balance) in my The Elder Scrolls.
I may wrongly presume but I presume that you are seeking MMO: the elder scrolls flavour.

I do not bother myself with mmo players. I prefer TES players online

Thejollygreenone

Surinen wrote: »

I do not bother myself with mmo players. I prefer TES players online

Then you're probably better off waiting for the next couple of single player TES games in which I'm sure they'll eventually incorporate group play while remaining true to the original TES gameplay. That seems like something that's more up your alley.

As much as you'd prefer you didn't have to bother with mmo-players who play the mmo you're playing, you're still playing an mmo. There are unavoidable implications that accompany that. Get used to it is all I'd have to say on that front.

As to my opinion on the poll, I'm not sure I'm for or against either side and so there is no option for me to choose. I think I would prefer designated classes for balance options, but I'm sure I would certainly still play and enjoy the game if the current class system was dumped in favor of a more open version.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Thejollygreenone wrote: »

Then you're probably better off waiting for the next couple of single player TES games in which I'm sure they'll eventually incorporate group play while remaining true to the original TES gameplay. That seems like something that's more up your alley.

As much as you'd prefer you didn't have to bother with mmo-players who play the mmo you're playing, you're still playing an mmo. There are unavoidable implications that accompany that. Get used to it is all I'd have to say on that front.

As to my opinion on the poll, I'm not sure I'm for or against either side and so there is no option for me to choose. I think I would prefer designated classes for balance options, but I'm sure I would certainly still play and enjoy the game if the current class system was dumped in favor of a more open version.

definition of MMO is neutral. 'implications' are nothing more than experience with poorly developed games. you cannot show a skeleton and call it TES. it is a skeleton of TES. if the developers wish to see it move, then it would be wise to start with putting muscles on it. I would like to see ESO running just like previous installations.

EliteZ

lul naah Sirrah Kaptin, I ain't no changeling yo. yo know, balancez, issues and such system abuzez. haha rofl spoiled internet kids wunt sum more entitlement

Why do we need class changes? So all of you crying can change class as soon as another class is FOTM. Templars and NBs are a little weak atm yes we get it, but give it until next patch when they fix NBs and everyone else will be moaning about the other classes and all those who wanted to change from a NB will only want to change back.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

EliteZ wrote: »

Why do we need class changes? So all of you crying can change class as soon as another class is FOTM. Templars and NBs are a little weak atm yes we get it, but give it until next patch when they fix NBs and everyone else will be moaning about the other classes and all those who wanted to change from a NB will only want to change back.

t'sup homie. yo know cuz, cos it is like yo know, there some of us boyz who like you know like animatiunz and effectz and like new things man. we ain't no dinozaurs if you n'o what I mean. we ain't dem fossilz man. we change (yo kno tis song 'changes' ae-yo?). and man, we are oldschool, no classez, pure swag. we see fireballz, we like em, we see em lightningz, we like em. why limit bro. gaming is not only about powah but tis cool sensation kommin from mermaids(sum say myriads, silliez) of spellz. wiz it up! and stay true to TES. holla back if yo change yo-o flow.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

and we wonder why todays youth cant find jobs.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Jeremy_gelber_ESO wrote: »

and we wonder why todays youth cant find jobs.

I appreciate your interest in my thread, but, please refrain from offtopic and focus on issue that matters: skill line oppression

Hakurei

lul naah Sirrah Kaptin, I ain't no changeling yo. yo know, balancez, issues and such system abuzez. haha rofl spoiled internet kids wunt sum more entitlement

No, or make it like +/- 50 euros in cash shop to buy class change so that most people won't hop from one class to another class without thoughts

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Hakurei wrote: »

No, or make it like +/- 50 euros in cash shop to buy class change so that most people won't hop from one class to another class without thoughts

I'm not in favour of class change. It is a last resort option, in case that Zenimax decides to oppress skill lines indefinitely.
there is an alternative to real money sink proposed by you: time lock : month or two months.

but, it is not an ideal solution, unlike class change, freedom of choice; liberated skill lines would prove much more beneficial for all those who wish to experience sparks and kabooms without a necessity of grim reroll. not to mention that many of us have our own ideas of characters, characters that we have been using for the last decade.

Dudis

The fotm is strong in this one.

Surinen

*but my Lord! by all what is sophisticated, superiority's fragnance cannot be achieved without total deconstruction of the class system. I demand freedom for skill lines. no more senseless oppression!*

Dudis wrote: »

The fotm is strong in this one.

I do not appreciate your unkind words. If you wish to compliment me then please, look beyond *30* days. I'm worth at least the end of time.
Flavour Aeterna.
It is highly advised to forge your commentary in a way that would be beneficial to the thread.

sCouraGeFire

yes Sir, I would love to be able to change my class, experience new abilities and animations. reroll is not for me!

As a templar I would like to change class, I am working on re-rolling as a sorc or NB. Going through all of the questing, which I absolutely hate beyond the main story and guild quests, is whats stopping me from getting serious about a reroll.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

sCouraGeFire wrote: »

As a templar I would like to change class, I am working on re-rolling as a sorc or NB. Going through all of the questing, which I absolutely hate beyond the main story and guild quests, is whats stopping me from getting serious about a reroll.

so just grind it out. its pretty easy to do a level an hour if you look for fast respawns.