Bots are back with a vengeance post 1.1.2

redwoodtreesprite

High levels can get resources before the bots sometimes, as they can take out aggressive mobs fast that are near the resources. Nothing wrong with high level characters collecting in low level areas. Also if you need low level mats, you have to collect them in low level areas.

Plus some of those high levels are doing their vet content I think, right?

Evandus

ronanh73b16_ESO wrote: »

The bot problem is really getting out of hand. Hoards of L2 bots in Coldharbour, and in Ailkir farming quests and mobs. Clan member couldn't even do a quest last night because they were zerging the mobs before he could get to them.

I'm back in low level areas on an alt and the place is almost barren of any alchemy resources, they disappear as fast as they spawn.

This is the biggest problem facing the game currently. It needs to be addressed asap.

Yeah, the alchemy stuff. Really, really infuriating. Speed hacked bots (and on rare occasions players) running to every resource node taking everything before you can.

My main can't do anything about making healing pots for himself. I really liked the triple recipe that restored some health/stamina/magicka in one shot. Kept me alive with inexperienced or inattentive healing from other players when I tank dungeons. Haven't been able to make anymore as a key needed mat is one I cannot get anymore.

Sure, I see them in the distance. Except they disappear in front of my face. Taken by bots. Everytime...

I've even tried to buy them with my in game gold from other players. Guess what? No one else has them either except 'alkdj'(name not actual but a representation of random bot selling account)

Sakiri

Banumu wrote: »

jaggedrelief wrote: »

Hey, ZOS, remind me again what legitimate business a level 2 player has in a level 30 area.

At the same time, We little levels either get our resources taken by bots or level 30-47 players, which I'm seeing a lot more of now. Was told they are farming here because 1. it's easy 2. because there is bots in those areas now 3. None of my business, they can play any way they want.

Not sticking up for bots but If you don't like bots in your area why do the same thing they are basically doing to the lower level zones?

Had one player actually *** because I got to the jute first. My reply was simple go farm your level area. Clearing out caves and such because you want mats fine, but do it in your level area.

Where the hell am I supposed to get jute at level 40+ then?

You think that magically we never have need for low level materials?

Btw Deshaan is my favorite zone for alchemy ingredients. I take my vr2 dk because killing annoying mobs is faster.

Level 3 in the Rift? Hell no. Shouldnt be able to do normal quests in the zone. Thats why they were there. Delivery for free gold.

Tavore1138

redwoodtreesprite wrote: »

High levels can get resources before the bots sometimes, as they can take out aggressive mobs fast that are near the resources. Nothing wrong with high level characters collecting in low level areas. Also if you need low level mats, you have to collect them in low level areas.

Plus some of those high levels are doing their vet content I think, right?

For me that's certainly true. I tend to set aside a couple of hours and go somewhere that I can grab resources without having to fight VR level mobs every other step. Mobs tend to be more spread out at lower levels and once you've done all the quests there are some areas you don't have to fight much which increases the per hour turnaround.

The problem for the higher levels is that at VR you need every edge you can get... that means getting as many of your armour & weapons up to purple/gold... that in turn means needing to harvest a shed load of nodes to render down to even get a few of these materials. If you do this at high levels your armour repairs get silly, if you do it at very low levels you hurt the new starters... somehow doing it at mid to high pre-VR levels seems like the best compromise.

Personally I harvest across a wide area so hopefully I am giving the players in that area a chance to get their own resources too plus I'll always try and help out if I see someone in a tough battle.

txfeinbergsub17_ESO

kasain wrote: »

I feel so left out. To this day I have never seen a flying player or bot.

I have seen bots of three plus in cold harbor kill everything. I have seen resources just vanish without anyone around. As the bot is under ground. But I never seen a flying character. Are they on dragons? Maybe they Jesus, but walk on air, not water? Clearly we need a museum photo gallery so everyone can see these great wonders.

If you go to Vinedusk village in Repears March, you will see plenty of flying bots.

Skirmish840

It's a Bird, It's Plane, No...It's Suuper Bot...........

JKorr

kasain wrote: »

radiostar wrote: »

Reported the bot train plus their clanfears in Crosswych yesterday. There were a few players there questing but the majority was this 5-6 bot train with their spawns zooming through town and the mine.

Felt a little guilty, since they saved my char more than once from the bandits.

Yea, but were they flying? I still say it's a myth. You can't fly unless you are on a dragon or Superman!

Or you find a way to use the tcl noclip command. Fly in the air or underground.

Reevster

Ya in Reapers march they are falling out of the sky's and popping up through the ground and through the floors of houses up and down, then there are the speed demons.....Damit, why cant i get those abilitys.....

mike.crewsb14_ESO

jaggedrelief wrote: »

Hey, ZOS, remind me again what legitimate business a level 2 player has in a level 30 area.

Experience for exploration. I leveled up to around 10 just exploring.

Sang

I spent two hours in Bangkorai reporting non ending streams of level 3 bots .. single to 10 at a time with gibberish names, as usual all synced.

They appeared from behind a level 37 gibberish name in starter gear and ran to the quest npc Wyress Freyda. Then they would make the "travel to player" action and vanish.

I sent in countless reports and begged for others to come help.
They are probably still at it right now.

I also seen them flying but to me it looked like bad pathing not like actual flight.

Getting mats to craft has become very difficult .. i can barely outfit my main with blue let alone purple and golds and VR is just a few levels away.

Too bad this game is being ran by bots, like someone responded to another post of mine ...

Welcome to Elderbots Online

Phinix1

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming and Conspiracy Theories.]

Phinix1

EDIT: I have never played a subscription game where I was made to feel like a chump for allowing my subscription to renew. I can't help it. I still have 10 days left and I reinstated my subscription after last patch as it seemed the bot situation was finally being taken care of, but it looks like it just took them a while to restart their little minions.

I will have to think long and hard about this one. Sure $15 isn't much money, but it is the principle of the thing. I don't like feeling like a tool.

Voltair

Reapers March is really a mess with bots but everyone has left off one issue these bots cause, the lag that I and other players experience when you enter certain areas awash with them! They are flying at speed, pathing and underground and it all causes huge lag particularly in combat. I've experienced bad lag/UI since entering Reapers March and I don't think its just to do with the Craglorn patch. This has been getting worse in each area along with the infestation of bots.

In the end I left that area, due to the lag and a quest that has now been broken for 3 days or more. I rolled a DK in DC and low and behold bot heaven again with a big lag fest. Skills not working, block working intermittently, interrupts not working at all or late with the lag and the R key when you re-spawn at a wayshrine activating your Ultimate as you materialise - Hello continuous death

Having said the above, don't get me wrong I am still enjoying this game hugely, when I take an irritated eye off the mail/bots and disappearing nodes. I do think that ZOS will get a handle on this it's just going to take time and we are not going to know how they do it as that would be coding suicide.

So i will continue to put in bug reports while not thinking about how many tickets must have my name on them

Phinix1

ZOS has had their arse handed to them on a plate by these Chinese bots. Not only are they completely incapable of doing a damn thing to stop it beyond token temporary GM bans (which are back the next day and never leave your ignore list, so NOT permanently banned), but the bot authors and writers are actually trolling these forums with their broken English LAUGHING about it.

Kosar

Bots used to *** me off too, then I stopped being in the 7th grade and realized that I'm not really competing with them if i don't stay in the low zones forever like most of you seem to.

your best bet is level already and get to the zones where the bots are not. they are farming easy kills or easy plants in easy zones. that's true of every single mmo ever. ever. period. get to the vet zones and you never see them--or they are so well hidden that they never interrupt game play.

i promise that jute and iron mean nothing cause you don't use them in your voidsteel armor at Vet 12. i promise. so stop worrying about the bots...

they've literally perma banned 10s if not 100s of thousands of accounts and its clear by the lack of spamming in all the zones, less mail and whispers from them, and even watching and banning them on forums. so please stop saying "they do nothing"...just cause some bot stole your jute doesn't mean that no one is doing nothing...it means 1% slipped through which is acceptable losses. and if your reaction to that infinitely spawning jute spot is to spew hate and venom and let us know the sky is falling...well you are acceptable losses too imo. see ya.

fyrefenix

i dub this game, the elder mages online! -featuring archers

fyrefenix

mean while when two veteran 4 beetles are too much for a nerfed templar to handle

ausmack2014

I cancelled my sub, and my game time runs out in around 9 days. For a short time after the last patch I thought perhaps I'd made a mistake but now I see I didn't. Everywhere I go levelling my level 10 toon in Glenumbra there are huge mobs of bots running around killing mobs, bots flying through the air and the ground taking mats from right in front of me. Collecting material to level my toons professions is so difficult and I refuse to buy from people in chat because I figure half of them at least use these bots, and I won't support them. Not to mention the lag they create whenever they are around, even further degrading my game pleasure. I've reported these bots over and over, attached screencaps, and never seen a reduction of any significance. I'm tiredof reporting them without result, using my gametime to do Zenimax's work for them. I'll check back in a few months, watch the forums to see if it has improved, and if not I'll just shrug off the loss of my $$ and move on. Very disappointed.

Phinix1

ausmack2014 wrote: »

I cancelled my sub, and my game time runs out in around 9 days. For a short time after the last patch I thought perhaps I'd made a mistake but now I see I didn't. Everywhere I go levelling my level 10 toon in Glenumbra there are huge mobs of bots running around killing mobs, bots flying through the air and the ground taking mats from right in front of me. Collecting material to level my toons professions is so difficult and I refuse to buy from people in chat because I figure half of them at least use these bots, and I won't support them. Not to mention the lag they create whenever they are around, even further degrading my game pleasure. I've reported these bots over and over, attached screencaps, and never seen a reduction of any significance. I'm tiredof reporting them without result, using my gametime to do Zenimax's work for them. I'll check back in a few months, watch the forums to see if it has improved, and if not I'll just shrug off the loss of my $$ and move on. Very disappointed.

Dito. Very disappointed. If I'm not being assaulted by bots I'm being assaulted by people defending bots.

Screw it. Not worth my time.

Hilgara

Forget about the fkin bots and fix the game. I can live with the bots and gold spammers but my guild are leaving one by one because half of them cant log in and the other half cant stay logged in. BOTS ARE NOT THE PRIORITY!

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

BOT ARE THE PRIORITY DUDE.

More people will leave because of bots than for some bugs ingame.

ausmack2014

Hilgara wrote: »

Forget about the fkin bots and fix the game. I can live with the bots and gold spammers but my guild are leaving one by one because half of them cant log in and the other half cant stay logged in. BOTS ARE NOT THE PRIORITY!

Yes,there are other issues that need fixing, but I cant see why multiple problems cannot be addressed. And to those of us who find botting/gold farming a problem in its various forms, it is a priority. All of us play for our own various reasons, don't assume that because it isn't your priority, it isn't important.

PF1901

effinshiddy wrote: »

Bots used to *** me off too, then I stopped being in the 7th grade and realized that I'm not really competing with them if i don't stay in the low zones forever like most of you seem to.

your best bet is level already and get to the zones where the bots are not. they are farming easy kills or easy plants in easy zones. that's true of every single mmo ever. ever. period. get to the vet zones and you never see them--or they are so well hidden that they never interrupt game play.

i promise that jute and iron mean nothing cause you don't use them in your voidsteel armor at Vet 12. i promise. so stop worrying about the bots...

they've literally perma banned 10s if not 100s of thousands of accounts and its clear by the lack of spamming in all the zones, less mail and whispers from them, and even watching and banning them on forums. so please stop saying "they do nothing"...just cause some bot stole your jute doesn't mean that no one is doing nothing...it means 1% slipped through which is acceptable losses. and if your reaction to that infinitely spawning jute spot is to spew hate and venom and let us know the sky is falling...well you are acceptable losses too imo. see ya.

So your solution to the problem is to level to v12 because there
1) Won't be any bots there
And
2) The now nonexistent low level mats are not needed up there.

Well effinshiddy, that's for sure effinshady.
But yeah let's all stop worrying about bots. Because if we don't worry there can't be a problem, right?

Phinix1

Until the bots are dealt with the community will continue to suffer, which will undermine every other aspect of the game. Everyone is so disgusted by the lack of results against these exploits, that everyone suspects everyone else of being an exploiter, gold buyer, contributor to the problem.

I love the game and will gladly give it another try in a few months.

Misty

They could remove gold all together and introduce a trade system. I guess this would take them years to do though.

Phinix1

Then if it takes them years, my journey in Tamriel ends before it begins. it is disappointing, but I'll live.

RedMiniStapler

I used to report bots spamming in zone chat, but I hardly see them these days, however I do receive gold seller's spam mail daily and that's what bugs me the most.

This is my second mmo game and I only started to play wow couple years ago, but in wow worst they did was spamming trade chats, I never had to deal with such invasive bots.

Banumu

Sakiri wrote: »

Where the hell am I supposed to get jute at level 40+ then?

You think that magically we never have need for low level materials?

Btw Deshaan is my favorite zone for alchemy ingredients. I take my vr2 dk because killing annoying mobs is faster.

Level 3 in the Rift? Hell no. Shouldnt be able to do normal quests in the zone. Thats why they were there. Delivery for free gold.

My level 9 (my highest is 20 but farms in ghatwood )is going for mats right, in a zone thats bacially my level. you think its ok for a higher level to come in and take it all because you need it? Why didn't you collect it when you where that level?

Isn't the vr areas pvp? if so why aren't the bots getting killed off buy players?

Phinix1

RedMiniStapler wrote: »

I used to report bots spamming in zone chat, but I hardly see them these days, however I do receive gold seller's spam mail daily and that's what bugs me the most.

This is my second mmo game and I only started to play wow couple years ago, but in wow worst they did was spamming trade chats, I never had to deal with such invasive bots.

As far as I am concerned it is simply time to stop playing online games altogether. This industry has become so gutted by greed like every other big company. Using billions of data points to gain insights on players to manipulate them into some addiction with your product, and counting on that to keep their bank accounts hooked with minimal investment in critical problems.

Putting in just enough effort to make a "new and shiny" marketing campaign and offsetting losses to a sense of betrayal by getting in bed with China and their inhumane sweat shop gold farming industry.

Yeah, screw empty modern human greed and screw MMO's.

Sakiri

Banumu wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

Where the hell am I supposed to get jute at level 40+ then?

You think that magically we never have need for low level materials?

Btw Deshaan is my favorite zone for alchemy ingredients. I take my vr2 dk because killing annoying mobs is faster.

Level 3 in the Rift? Hell no. Shouldnt be able to do normal quests in the zone. Thats why they were there. Delivery for free gold.

My level 9 (my highest is 20 but farms in ghatwood )is going for mats right, in a zone thats bacially my level. you think its ok for a higher level to come in and take it all because you need it? Why didn't you collect it when you where that level?

Isn't the vr areas pvp? if so why aren't the bots getting killed off buy players?

Because when you go through alts at the rate I do the need for material doesnt end? And guildmates alts?

Get over yourself.

And no, vr isnt pvp. Only Cyrodiil is pvp. Bits dont go to Cyrodiil.