Motif farming possible again post-patch - Is it intended?

Kraen

Hello there.

So, after the patch, houses are again full of containers with "rare" stuff within. Daedric Hears, Copper and other rare mats are easily farmable, you can get like 50 per hour quite easily. Infamous Wayrest Inn is literally stuffed with people.

Even the motifs are farmable. Prices are dropping ridiculously. I mean, is this intended? Shouldn´t be the RARE motifs actually RARE? At this very moment, everyone can have Daedric, Ancient Elves, etc. in almost no time.

If this is intended and Daedric, A. Elf, Barbaric and Primal motifs arent supposed to be rare, alright. But I remember that pre-patch 1.1, they were very rare. So why the change?

Thanks for an opinion and answer.

mowind

i don't get it, people will complain about ANYTHING...motifs are too easy to find, motifs are too hard to find, motifs are too easy to find again.


/bangheadonwall

KerinKor

LOL fashion victims.

Beesting

My opinion,
They were never rare, this was a spin by the sellers so people would pay more.
How anyone can get 300k spare cash to burn on a motif (that you might find the next day) without goldbuying or exploiting is beyond me,

After all the people complaining about the armor repair bills and their16 horses to feed everyday...

It is not important to me, i play in first person, even with the glowing blinding restro staff.

I would pay 300k for a restro staff that doesn't blind me, mind you..

mowind

WTS [Dimly lit staff of darkness] 300k...pst!

TicToc

Kraen wrote: »

Even the motifs are farmable. Prices are dropping ridiculously.

That seems to be your real issue. You can't price gauge if they aren't so hard to come buy.

I'm pretty sure that they didn't put Motifs in the game for people to make ridiculous amounts of money on. Far better for them to be less rare. Bonus effect, the place will eventually not be "stuffed with people".

Zerl

If someone wants to play that way, then so be it...

Personally, I couldn't stomach it... It's repetitive and gets really boring, really fast. I don't begrudge people doing it, if that's what they want to do then that's fine by me.

However these people will not be on my Contacts (honestly, the constant notifications do my head it).

LadyDestiny

I have yet to find a rare since all the nerfs and fixes etc........not even since this last patch. Not sure where everyone is finding all of these. Been in EP VR zone for some time and still nothing. Just looting the casual way, clearing all zones as I go through them, going back everyday to run through again but never relogging. I know that is the method that a lot of people are using. I just don't want to have to resort to that. Stop complaining about the drop rate being so good. Some people still don't have any, while others want to hoard and have stacks to sell at ridiculous prices.....I just want a set to put on my crafters, but I sure won't pay for them. If Zeni was smart, they would just make it an ability earned with crafting. Level 50 gets all the rare styles......problem solved. Oh and for some reason I keep hearing how well they are obtainable on the DC side. Did they forget to add them on the EP zone or something. Still getting the same stuff there as was before patch. Closed containers still coming up empty, tons of lockpicks, the same green recipe over and over again, a few crafting metals and low level crap food. Nothing has changed where I am grinding anyway.

Mablung

Kraen wrote: »

Hello there.

So, after the patch, houses are again full of containers with "rare" stuff within. Daedric Hears, Copper and other rare mats are easily farmable, you can get like 50 per hour quite easily. Infamous Wayrest Inn is literally stuffed with people.

Even the motifs are farmable. Prices are dropping ridiculously. I mean, is this intended? Shouldn´t be the RARE motifs actually RARE? At this very moment, everyone can have Daedric, Ancient Elves, etc. in almost no time.

If this is intended and Daedric, A. Elf, Barbaric and Primal motifs arent supposed to be rare, alright. But I remember that pre-patch 1.1, they were very rare. So why the change?

Thanks for an opinion and answer.

This is someone who obviously sold these things at a higher than needed price. The drop rate for the motifs and style stones does indeed seem to have increased and for that I thank Zenimax. This is an excellent step in combating gold sellers.

As someone who had only looted 4 regular motifs pre vet zones, I have, since patch, found 2 Ancient Elf and 1 Barbaric Motif, not to mention plenty of style stones to keep my guildmates and myself happy in crafting desired looks.

Sakiri

I've found 0 of the rare ones.

Bothers me none. They're all kinda ugly imo.

Kraen

Haha, it's nice how almost all of you exactly know who I am and why I am complaining like you were my neighbours. (:

I just asked a question. If you don´t have constuctive opinion or answer, move on.

Actually, I am complaining because I played all the previous Elder Scrolls games and Daedric Armor was kind of rare. At this very moment, everyone and his dog is running in one (I am using VR 6 costume of Dark Seducer). And this fact bothers me. Daedric Armor more common than steel? Not an Elder Scrolls way.

Brockxz

Only those who wish to sell daedric etc motifs for insane 500k+ prices are worried now
For now i haven't found any rare motif at all but I mostly don't care about those things that change my looks. Don't know if there is improvements to find motifs but at least after 1.2 patch I have orc motif on my alt after 2+ weeks without any motifs.

Seroczynski

I was more bothered by people paying 300k+ for Daedric Motif than the people who farm it now.

Cathrin

I found a Daedric motif just yesterday. That makes a total of 3 motifs (one I already knew) I found since early access.

Used it on myself, even I don't really like the look, but I just want to be able to craft in that style.

I would never pay like 300k for such a motif anyway, because the only way to get that much gold is
a) farming - which I don't really like
b) buying it from those goldsellers - which I don't support at all!

Phantax

Have to agree with Zenimax here, the current drop rate seems right. If this also has the side effect of stoping those idiots spamming chat, asking for ridiculas amounts of money.... good !

Evandus

The fix that would work best imo is leaving the droprates as they are currently, but making motif's bound to account. The amount of silliness this would stop would be epic.

mowind

Evandus wrote: »

The fix that would work best imo is leaving the droprates as they are currently, but making motif's bound to account. The amount of silliness this would stop would be epic.

very bad idea, the game economy is bad enough as it is.

if i have all the motifs, and i loot an extra, that potential source of income now becomes vendor fodder.

babylon

mowind wrote: »

Evandus wrote: »

The fix that would work best imo is leaving the droprates as they are currently, but making motif's bound to account. The amount of silliness this would stop would be epic.

very bad idea, the game economy is bad enough as it is.

if i have all the motifs, and i loot an extra, that potential source of income now becomes vendor fodder.

So what, economy shouldn't be based on RNG loot. You want some money go make something and sell it.

Kililin

Since when are blue items rare?
you probably are just pissed because you paid an ridiculous amount of gold for an item worth practically nothing. (like 1k gcrafting fee per piece at best , if at all)

Grim13

Psst, OP... where did you say this was occurring again? I may sneak over and check it out...

..Haven't seen a Motif in over a month.

Shhh. Just between you and I, ok!

Shanna

LadyDestiny wrote: »

........Some people still don't have any, while others want to hoard and have stacks to sell at ridiculous prices.....I just want a set to put on my crafters, but I sure won't pay for them. If Zeni was smart, they would just make it an ability earned with crafting. Level 50 gets all the rare styles......problem solved.

I agree with this idea. I finally found *one* (barbaric) while questing in the V5 zone. But, other than that, I think I pulled an unlucky number from the RNG at character creation.

SilverWF

Kraen wrote: »

Hello there.

So, after the patch, houses are again full of containers with "rare" stuff within. Daedric Hears, Copper and other rare mats are easily farmable, you can get like 50 per hour quite easily. Infamous Wayrest Inn is literally stuffed with people.

Even the motifs are farmable. Prices are dropping ridiculously. I mean, is this intended? Shouldn´t be the RARE motifs actually RARE? At this very moment, everyone can have Daedric, Ancient Elves, etc. in almost no time.

If this is intended and Daedric, A. Elf, Barbaric and Primal motifs arent supposed to be rare, alright. But I remember that pre-patch 1.1, they were very rare. So why the change?

Thanks for an opinion and answer.

Seems like someone have bought daedric for 200k and planned to resell it for 500k, but now it's price goes back to 80-90k ^^
Butthurt, right?

BEfore 1.1 it wasn't rare, prices was about 30-40k per Daedric, all another - 10-20k.
And it was perfect state.

crislevin

i think 10k is about the right price, anything higher, forget about it. Its not like I can craft Jerkin anyway.

Rage_Frost

Kraen wrote: »

Hello there.

So, after the patch, houses are again full of containers with "rare" stuff within. Daedric Hears, Copper and other rare mats are easily farmable, you can get like 50 per hour quite easily. Infamous Wayrest Inn is literally stuffed with people.

Even the motifs are farmable. Prices are dropping ridiculously. I mean, is this intended? Shouldn´t be the RARE motifs actually RARE? At this very moment, everyone can have Daedric, Ancient Elves, etc. in almost no time.

If this is intended and Daedric, A. Elf, Barbaric and Primal motifs arent supposed to be rare, alright. But I remember that pre-patch 1.1, they were very rare. So why the change?

Thanks for an opinion and answer.

Gold Farmers are upset the prices are falling so they can't sell the for 45+ US Doll Hairs.

The only thing Rare Should Be Yellow gear well I have never seen yellow gear drop so the Yellow Gear Crafting mat's then

We are talking a Blue Motif I cant tell you how many Blue's I get in a gaming session but its not low at all... Blue's are dropping all over the world should we nerf that also?

"Daedric Hears, Copper and other rare mats are easily farmable"

Did you ever break down the gear you looted for Mats if so again its not hard to get this stuff by other means and I mean LOTS of it...

ipkonfigcub18_ESO

Prior to the patch the drop rates were adjusted incorrectly. In this patch the drop rates were reduced (corrected from the first bug and then reduced drop rate correctly).

You only seem them more because they are dropping at the rate at which they should.

Prices have also gone from 275Kg to 50Kg in areas I have been in, somtimes 70Kg.

Now the funny part is the Deadric Hearts - people are still trying to sell those fro 1Kg to 1.2Kg each. They're now only worth about 300g each, if even that. They increased the drop rates of the Hearts by a lot and now drop from containers.

Nebthet78

What's it matter if the motifs are easy to find? They are absolutely useless unless you have your skills leveled enough to use them.

As far as I am concerned, let them drop more. That way goldsellers will get less for them.

Sakiri

Kraen wrote: »

Haha, it's nice how almost all of you exactly know who I am and why I am complaining like you were my neighbours. (:

I just asked a question. If you don´t have constuctive opinion or answer, move on.

Actually, I am complaining because I played all the previous Elder Scrolls games and Daedric Armor was kind of rare. At this very moment, everyone and his dog is running in one (I am using VR 6 costume of Dark Seducer). And this fact bothers me. Daedric Armor more common than steel? Not an Elder Scrolls way.

If you knee what you were doing Daedric wasnt hard to get in Morrowind and the atronach forge in skyrim was even easier.

Ageless

Grim13 wrote: »

Psst, OP... where did you say this was occurring again? I may sneak over and check it out...

..Haven't seen a Motif in over a month.

Then go look in desks, wardrobes, dressers, trunks, chests and backpacks, as that's where I manage to get them out of, with more than one each log in, and each character. Got already 3 doubles for my third char.

jursicub17_ESO

Agree with Sakiri, in response to Kraen, Daedric armor was one of the first things I would go get in Morrowind.

Iorail

Kraen wrote: »

Hello there.

.....Snip......

Thanks for an opinion and answer.

Kraen wrote: »

Haha, it's nice how almost all of you exactly know who I am and why I am complaining like you were my neighbours. (:

I just asked a question. If you don´t have constuctive opinion or answer, move on.

Actually, I am complaining because I played all the previous Elder Scrolls games and Daedric Armor was kind of rare. At this very moment, everyone and his dog is running in one (I am using VR 6 costume of Dark Seducer). And this fact bothers me. Daedric Armor more common than steel? Not an Elder Scrolls way.

First you ask for opinions and answers, then you tell people that don't agree with you to move on........

I'm glad it's the way it is now and I swear to Bal, I laugh so hard when I see on chat Barbaric for 60k!, I was even called "an immature child" when I said on your dreams, they are not worth 60k.....

The issues were fixed and farmers can still farmed them, just not make millions out of them anymore and that's fine with me, maybe you are one of those and don't like it, also fine with me.

And news flash, 40k - Barbaric, 20k - Ancient Elf, 15k - Primal and maybe 5k for Imperial, if at all, expect that to go even lower on the next few weeks ;p

LOVING IT!

Evandus

mowind wrote: »

Evandus wrote: »

The fix that would work best imo is leaving the droprates as they are currently, but making motif's bound to account. The amount of silliness this would stop would be epic.

very bad idea, the game economy is bad enough as it is.

if i have all the motifs, and i loot an extra, that potential source of income now becomes vendor fodder.

I understand your point. But let's take a look at what happens when that Motif becomes a potiential source of income:

1. Bots come in by the hundreds if not thousands looting containers across the world. They stock them up for sale on sites 24/7 at high real money prices.
2. Players spam chat trying to sell these items at prices so high that only a player grinding gold or buying it can afford.
3. People are experiencing noticable decreases in areas that have lootable containers due to invisible/speed hacked/teleport hacked looting bots.

I've seen daedric motifs sell recently for 314,000 gold. I've seen players link to other players setting up paypal accounts for real money transfers to sell their motifs for cash. Even charging up to 200 dollars of real cash for one.

This is abusrd to the point of comedy. And should not be encouraged by ZOS considering it simply translates to lost money for them.

The most recent increases of droprates are good. They allow someone unwilling to spend real life cash to purchase gold or motifs from outside sources. They can farm them for themselves if they wish to.