Best class/build for an Argonian?

donJay

Ppl seemed to be turned on by the Argonian Templar combo (me too).

Meanma

Hoylegu wrote: »

I want to roll an Argonian (it's clear to me now that they are the master race)

Yeeeees. Excellent. Cool rain on your scales, marsh-sibling.

I can't combat with the serious theory crafters above me but I can tell that with my lass I tried complementing the racials more from an roleplaying perspective and less from a min-maxing one. In that sense, Argonian racials seem to suit two distinctive branches - shadowscales and tree-minders.

Restoration Expertise and Quick to Mend are peaceful healing and somewhat magic centered abilities. Something you would use with a shaman or elemental mage. Amphibious and Argonian Resistance are all about playing it dirty with guerilla tactics through the usage of potions (and poisons) and blending in with the hostile wilderness which the disease / poison resistance, increased health and swimming speed supports very well. Excellent choice for an assassin or necromancer.

You could either choose to pick one of these or, like I did, go for a mixed approach. Pick nightblade for the shadowscale abilities so you always have access to the rogue archetype kit and then combine the class abilities with the weapon abilities from a restoration staff and a destruction staff or a bow and daggers. Fits the lore and complements the racials!

As for armour? Light if you go with staves, medium if you want bow and daggers. Oh and definitely pick up alchemy.

Night_Child

Tinythinker...! I like the way you think. :-)

Lysette

Meanma wrote: »

Hoylegu wrote: »

I want to roll an Argonian (it's clear to me now that they are the master race)

Yeeeees. Excellent. Cool rain on your scales, marsh-sibling.

I can't combat with the serious theory crafters above me but I can tell that with my lass I tried complementing the racials more from an roleplaying perspective and less from a min-maxing one. In that sense, Argonian racials seem to suit two distinctive branches - shadowscales and tree-minders.

Restoration Expertise and Quick to Mend are peaceful healing and somewhat magic centered abilities. Something you would use with a shaman or elemental mage. Amphibious and Argonian Resistance are all about playing it dirty with guerilla tactics through the usage of potions (and poisons) and blending in with the hostile wilderness which the disease / poison resistance, increased health and swimming speed supports very well. Excellent choice for an assassin or necromancer.

You could either choose to pick one of these or, like I did, go for a mixed approach. Pick nightblade for the shadowscale abilities so you always have access to the rogue archetype kit and then combine the class abilities with the weapon abilities from a restoration staff and a destruction staff or a bow and daggers. Fits the lore and complements the racials!

As for armour? Light if you go with staves, medium if you want bow and daggers. Oh and definitely pick up alchemy.

You described basically my argonian build, but I see it as well more from a role play perspective like you do.

Deceptive_Yoshi

Play as a DK and pretend you're a fire breathing lizard or play Nightblade since they get like 5 ultimate on pot use. I also prefer them playing as a tank since they get massive heals.

Duiwel

Olympic Swimming Champion Templar pacifist - in other words you don't use any attacks or weapons ever.

However it does mean you can swim really fast & you can tell people violence is bad, maybe even heal them

Elektrakosh

I managed to get through the game with an Argonian restoration Sorceress. She is also a vampire. They have restoration staff skills as well as potion chug bonuses but I never put points into alchemy. Your trusty Clannfear helps if you're solo.

TheBull

Dragon Knight of course. After all *lowers voice* they are dragons.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

Make him a templar
U wont be Good at anything,
But hey, Good for role playing..... I guess

Night_Child

Junkogen wrote: »

Be warned. Potion-based builds are expensive. It takes time to collect all those materials or get gold to buy mats. Just starting out, probably not the best idea. Now, later when you have extra gold lying around,then it's not so bad.

Also, there really is no comparison between a Dunmer and Argonian for a magicka build. Dunmer is a way better choice to min/max. Argonian really doesn't excel in the game's current meta. I appreciated that guy's attempt to sell the Argonians' passives against a Dunmer. Dunmer gets more benefit from their max stat passive because the meta supports putting all your attribute points into magicka or stamina. 9% of 30-40k is more than the 9% of 20 or so k of health. For example 9% for 20000 is 1800. 9% of 30000 is 2700 and 9% of 40000 is 3600. See? Dunmer passive is better.

That is highly incorrect...AGAIN. YOU actually hold a great deal of prejudice toward this race, so all your posts regarding this topic should be disregarded by any and all readers. You actually stated in another forum page regarding a similar topic that Argonians are good for nothing...and I quote, "Sadly, Argonian is not a great choice for any build," (Junkogen, 2015). Many would disagree with your poor choice of words on that. Also, "Potion based builds" are not expensive at all. Alchemy reagants are ALL OVER TAMRIEL and should be collected upon ones travels. In addition, you can use the game created potions until you've collected enough mats. They drop off of Group Bosses and Delve bosses. They aren't nearly as good, but it will do until you hit CP 500+ which is where you will most likely need player created potions and elixers for trials, anyway.

Night_Child

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

Make him a templar
U wont be Good at anything,
But hey, Good for role playing..... I guess

Incorrect and provided no information. Bad job...and that might be giving you WAY too much credit.

Shader_Shibes

This:

Yolokin_Swagonborn

I use mine to hold my bound items and extra gear.

AshTal

Argonian racials are complete *** as such you can play any class you want to be without fear that your racials will push you down one path or another, just have to know you will be weaker than any person of that class who picked a race that enhances that class.

runagate

Hoylegu wrote: »

apterous wrote: »

nightblade with bow as a true shadowscale.

Oooh, I like this, might give it a go, thanks.

There's a Shadowscale build on the Battlemaster's Corner page:

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2015/07/21/battlemasters-corner--the-shadowscale

Strider_Roshin

I think a magicka Nightblade would make a great choice for an Argonian with the potion passive and the healing potential from the siphoning tree.

Night_Child

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

This:

The funniest part about this pic is that it says WAY more than a Dark Elf. I try to post a pic of an item resembling Dark Elves and that square just ended up blank...

Then it hit me...EVERYTHING about a Dark Elf is non-existing, thus irrelavant.

Night_Child

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I think a magicka Nightblade would make a great choice for an Argonian with the potion passive and the healing potential from the siphoning tree.

Thank You!

Night_Child

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

I use mine to hold my bound items and extra gear.

I assume you mean your Argonian...?

Damn...lucky you. I use my Dark Elf for a toilet. I wish it gave me as much value as your Argonian gives you.

Night_Child

AshTal wrote: »

Argonian racials are complete *** as such you can play any class you want to be without fear that your racials will push you down one path or another, just have to know you will be weaker than any person of that class who picked a race that enhances that class.

You kind of just contradicted yourself. You say that Argonian racials are complete poop, which is just ignorant and incomplete, but then go on to say any race that enhanced a class would be superior to one who did not. An Argonian who makes use of his racial passives, therefore, enhancing the class he plays is superior to almost anything in front of him...aside from maybe another Argonian. Maybe what you meant to say was that you have absolutely no idea or interest in playing an Argonian and therefore have no helpful imput as how to properly roll one. Aside from your first 7 words, you might have a good post, but ignorance tends to ruin it for people.

Crzykiddo

I find that the Argonian racials synergize really well with the templar class. I am a healtank, so the extra health + heals helps keep me alive, while giving me a decent health pool

Selique

Here is your Answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWD18JTGbok

One-Shot Willy Build; Potion Chugger!

RAGUNAnoOne

Crzykiddo wrote: »

I find that the Argonian racials synergize really well with the templar class. I am a healtank, so the extra health + heals helps keep me alive, while giving me a decent health pool

Only for the tank part not the healer part (unless it is self heals) they actually make the best sap tanks due to the ability to stack healing received.

Crzykiddo

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Only for the tank part not the healer part (unless it is self heals) they actually make the best sap tanks due to the ability to stack healing received.

Yeah, even if the heal originates from you, you get 9% more heals. Now, as a healer this isn't as effective, because you want harder hitting heals on everyone else rather than yourself. I personally believe it should be outgoing AND incoming heals to make Argonians more appealing for healer setups.

Night_Child

Crzykiddo wrote: »

I find that the Argonian racials synergize really well with the templar class. I am a healtank, so the extra health + heals helps keep me alive, while giving me a decent health pool

Their racials also synergize really well with a magika NB class, particularly utilizing any health stealing move available to them.

Night_Child

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Crzykiddo wrote: »

I find that the Argonian racials synergize really well with the templar class. I am a healtank, so the extra health + heals helps keep me alive, while giving me a decent health pool

Only for the tank part not the healer part (unless it is self heals) they actually make the best sap tanks due to the ability to stack healing received.

Look at it this way. The more health the Argonian recieves, the longer s/he stays alive. The longer the Argonian stays alive, the more heals s/he dishes out. Savvy? So no, not only for the tank part...

Tonnopesce

IMHO a good option can be a Nightblade with all the CP into the potion passives:

75 point into elemental expert at least ( or something else in the apprentice) in order to get Foresight (Reduces the Magicka cost of your next spell by 80% after you drink a potion)

120 points into the shadow to get Shadowstrike (After killing a target with a heavy attack, enter stealth for 2.5 seconds.)

100 point into Nourishing (Increases the effectiveness of healing potions by (0-25%))
+ 20 points into the same constellation to get Determination (Absorbs X damage for 15 seconds after drinking a potion.)

The points on the thief can be put where you want honestly.

And on top of this the new Alchemist set (crafted) to get a semi-permanent + 500 spell damage

borchan

Make him the best swimmer ever

bertenburnyb16_ESO

Night_Child wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

Make him a templar
U wont be Good at anything,
But hey, Good for role playing..... I guess

Incorrect and provided no information. Bad job...and that might be giving you WAY too much credit.

U must be new here

Night_Child

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

Night_Child wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

Make him a templar
U wont be Good at anything,
But hey, Good for role playing..... I guess

Incorrect and provided no information. Bad job...and that might be giving you WAY too much credit.

U must be new here

Better to be new and knowledgeable than old and have an IQ of a carrot. Yup, I'll be new.