Maybe its time to ask for mass refunds...

Reykice

This is not even close to what was advertised and its worse every patch..

I`m not sure about international players but the EU ones can get a refund of their unused game time, don`t know about more...

Maybe its time we consider asking for a refund as the game is now unplayable and they are not saying/doing anything...

What do you think?

Lucifer108

I think a month from now , more people will be playing guilds wars 2 than ESO.

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO

I think your post is rather silly... I have no issues at all and am quite enjoying the game... It is not unplayable at all... but hey... that's just me.

If you wanna quit, then do so but don't try to drag others out with you...

Ako

or maybe you just move on and don't be a drama queen over a bit of cash you spent on a gamble that a game would be to your liking.

ShadowWolf613

Sorry to inform you but if you've been playing for more then 5 days you can't get a refund according to there EULA. So goodluck with that.

Niliu

I kinda regret buying the $129.99 Imperial Edition now...

Sil

I think I never saw someone giving back money he took^^
Not without severest pressure.... So just forget it and get over it.

Game is atm unplayable. And it doesn't seem that they have it under
control. Time for a break and playing a nother game....

Sharee

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

What do you think?

I'm an EU player and i think i don't know WTF you are talking about. Game is great an i'm having fun.

Reykice

Its not about the money, its about MMO companies learning we can do something if they lie to us and deliver a broken product.

Nobody cares about 15$ or 30$ but as gamers we care about playing a GOOD game.

If we let them launch the game while unfinished then pay and be happy about it while it gets worse we will never get a decent game...

Making a stand as a consumer is a good thing for the industry, this is why i think we should show them we don`t like what they are doing. Show them not just post, they clearly don`t care about our forum posts as long as we keep forking over the money.

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO

Sharee wrote: »

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

What do you think?

I'm an EU player and i think i don't know WTF you are talking about. Game is great an i'm having fun.

Ditto... I don't see what everyone on here's going on about.... at all

Making a stand as a consumer is a good thing for the industry, this is why i think we should show them we don`t like what they are doing. Show them not just post, they clearly don`t care about our forum posts as long as we keep forking over the money.

Euh... then go grab your pitchfork... but remember... you haven't "kept" forking over the money yet... you at best can have made ONE payement. So cancel, by all means, but then do so and don't try starting a riot... my guess is you'll be in the townsquare waving your torch and pitchfork all alone

Shanna

Niliu wrote: »

I kinda regret buying the $129.99 Imperial Edition now...

Same. I'm starting to have buyers remorse.

Sil

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ditto... I don't see what everyone on here's going on about.... at all

I am also EU player, i will tell you:

- massive bot problem/empty Landscapes (few resources, very few valuable items)
- really many bugs
- often extreme lagging
- unbalanced bosses and classes
- bad pvp
- difficult group playing (phasing/alliances)
- bad economy
- broken/bugged missions/bosses
- very copy and pasted cities/buildings and dungeons
.... aso

most annoying for me now is the "horse hammer sound"; horse steps are so loud I have to turn ALL environmental sounds down, cause they are so loud that my ears are hurted. So i can't hear most of the atmospheric/effect sounds anymore. Immersion gone.

I think there are sure people who could add many more things to this list.
I really don't see how you can't see it...

Reykice

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

What do you think?

I'm an EU player and i think i don't know WTF you are talking about. Game is great an i'm having fun.

Ditto... I don't see what everyone on here's going on about.... at all

Making a stand as a consumer is a good thing for the industry, this is why i think we should show them we don`t like what they are doing. Show them not just post, they clearly don`t care about our forum posts as long as we keep forking over the money.

Euh... then go grab your pitchfork... but remember... you haven't "kept" forking over the money yet... you at best can have made ONE payement. So cancel, by all means, but then do so and don't try starting a riot... my guess is you'll be in the townsquare waving your torch and pitchfork all alone

I have 170ish days left... so yea...

EDIT: Also please stop it with personal attacks... don`t derail the thread.

Niliu

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Its not about the money, its about MMO companies learning we can do something if they lie to us and deliver a broken product.

Nobody cares about 15$ or 30$ but as gamers we care about playing a GOOD game.

If we let them launch the game while unfinished then pay and be happy about it while it gets worse we will never get a decent game...

Making a stand as a consumer is a good thing for the industry, this is why i think we should show them we don`t like what they are doing. Show them not just post, they clearly don`t care about our forum posts as long as we keep forking over the money.

Well, if they tell you ahead of time it's an Alpha/Beta that you're paying for, like with DayZ, then okay, you're paying to play something broken, but at least you knew. When the game is as broken as this one is, and they don't disclose how effed it is, that's when the pitchforks come out.

Mackeh

I have to admit to wavering on my views for the potential of the game as every patch hits the servers .. dismal.

edenrozb16_ESO

Can USA customers start a class action?

Jade1986

I honestly think they should give everyone online credit, just like FF14, and completely roll back the game, re-release it whenever its actually finished, fixed, and not reliant on user made add ons to fix things.

Reykice

laced wrote: »

I honestly think they should give everyone online credit, just like FF14, and completely roll back the game, re-release it whenever its actually finished, fixed, and not reliant on user made add ons to fix things.

Yes its exactly what i think... or a free month - few will care about the 15$ but it will show they are willing to admit its bad.

Sil

And btw... from a big company like them i would expect a test server where players test a patch for a while b4 megaservers are patched to hell... This is really amateur behaviour. They just don't know how to run an mmo. That#s it...

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO

Sil wrote: »

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ditto... I don't see what everyone on here's going on about.... at all

- massive bot problem/empty Landscapes (few resources, very few valuable items)

Still haven't seen a single bot, I'm VR5.5 now and I still haven't seen one. But then I don't stick around to farm bosses myself... I kill a boss and move on, drop or no drop. As for few resources... I'm nearing 5000/10000 on the achievement. But then I got keen eye 3 on all crafting skills so they do show up from a nice distance.

- really many bugs

Only one that bothered me what The Final Assault brasier, which has since been fixed

- often extreme lagging

Guess I'm lucky as I only lag in Cyrodill, and even then only on ocassion

- unbalanced bosses and classes

I can only speak for my own class but I have beat most bosses rather easily. As far as class balance... well, that will chance over time and does so in all games.

- bad pvp

I'm an old DAoC player so I'm happy with it... very reminicent of DAoC

- difficult group playing (phasing/alliances)

granted

- bad economy

What economy ? All I've bought so far are items to research for my crafting skills

- broken/bugged missions/bosses

At 50, I had ONE quest left that was bugged... well, aside from having to jump to my death nakid a few times on the final assault. Since 50 I still haven't found a single one

- very copy and pasted cities/buildings and dungeons

Come on... "every" city is different... you are reaching here

But to each his own. You like Honda, I like Toyota... and we are both allowed our own opinion.

randomriffyrocksprerb18_ESO

REBOOT

Sil

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

But to each his own. You like Honda, I like Toyota... and we are both allowed our own opinion.

I could answer to each of your points but we would do an endless (du bist Deutscher, also ich kenne das Wort nicht: "Schlagabtausch") . So best we stay with this.

Reykice

i don`t know but they make so many mistakes... the game is full of bugs, the billing problems... also you can be sure than whatever billing problems they have are NEVER in your favor, they would rather charge you 20 times than let you get it one cent cheaper....

There are people swearing them in every VR area... as they buffed(not intentionally) the damage/hp of VR mobs by 50% so people are getting creamed:))

Either way i`m not sure they should be getting 15$/month at this point... 15$/month is for a game that can be played and is mostly bug free. Here, you can`t even be sure what is working and what is not as everything can and will be eventually broken...

/rant off

robacooperb16_ESO

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

What do you think?

I think I'm adding someone else to my bot/griefer/entitled git pile.

Arwyn

laced wrote: »

I honestly think they should give everyone online credit, just like FF14, and completely roll back the game, re-release it whenever its actually finished, fixed, and not reliant on user made add ons to fix things.

Problem is at this point who would trust them in 6 months when they say they have it in hand. Doubt I would. Im more for fast reliable improvement ASAP (i.e. now!) win me back so to speak.

Next state of the game address should be interesting to say the least.

Jade1986

Arwyn wrote: »

laced wrote: »

I honestly think they should give everyone online credit, just like FF14, and completely roll back the game, re-release it whenever its actually finished, fixed, and not reliant on user made add ons to fix things.

Problem is at this point who would trust them in 6 months when they say they have it in hand. Doubt I would. Im more for fast reliable improvement ASAP (i.e. now!) win me back so to speak.

Next state of the game address should be interesting to say the least.

How long did FF14 wait to roll back the game?

Drachenfier

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Sil wrote: »

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ditto... I don't see what everyone on here's going on about.... at all

- massive bot problem/empty Landscapes (few resources, very few valuable items)

Still haven't seen a single bot, I'm VR5.5 now and I still haven't seen one.

Stopped reading after this. Either you're flat out lying, or you don't actually play this game.

leilani96792

I think I will need to get a refund too. I am unable to play since the patch and I am not getting any reply from support.

Reykice

rolling it back now would kill it... they need to hire TESTERS to test for bugs before massive updates...

People will tolerate a few broken things, minor things, with a such a big update. But the bugs they have allowed to creep in are not minor... did nobody see the increase in VR NPC hp/damage? Well no, they were all in Craglorn... so they need testers to actually check for things like this one.

Not to mention the other stability bugs and so on...

I know its their first MMO but its not their first try at common sense or at making a product that works.

Tarwin

Lucifer108 wrote: »

I think a month from now , more people will be playing guilds wars 2 than ESO.

I have a pair of rusty forks I'd rather stick in my eyes

Reykice

Drachenfier wrote: »

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Sil wrote: »

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

Ditto... I don't see what everyone on here's going on about.... at all

- massive bot problem/empty Landscapes (few resources, very few valuable items)

Still haven't seen a single bot, I'm VR5.5 now and I still haven't seen one.

Stopped reading after this. Either you're flat out lying, or you don't actually play this game.

Eh some people don`t know what a bot is, even if they spot 200 they will think its just another player...

Also, who leveled fast in early access and never want back to a lower level area stayed ahead of the bots... i had a few guildies who said "there are no bots" so i asked them to go back to Khenarthi`s Roost. 10 minutes later they were raging about how can ZEMIMAX allow them to teleport/speed hack all over the place...