Will I ever find a motif again

Skirmish840

So after reading this.

Itemization
The rate at which you can earn racial motifs and provisioning recipes from lootable containers and furniture has been slightly reduced.

I haven't found one in weeks, does this mean I'll never find one again (or for a very long time) or have you fixed it to a predetermined chance, say if I open X amount of lootable containers and delete Y amount of rubbish from my packs then I have Z chance to find a Motif.

Yeah I know I'm dreaming, just trying to find a way to settle this news with myself, I can only imagine that Motif prices will go through the roof even more after this.

I'm not QQing, I just want to understand the mechanics so I don't have unreasonable expectations and therefore utter disappointment....

Tendeep

I do not get it either, I have not found one since the nerf on any of my characters...

randomriffyrocksprerb18_ESO

LOOT INSTANCED AREAS!!! Thats all i'm gonna say

Skirmish840

Thanks Random, been doing that especially, who know's may be it's my turn next and I'll have a use for all this primal stone I've been collecting.

alexmolthanb14a_ESO

Zenimax wants you to buy gold from the gold farmers, then you'll be able to afford to use in game gold to buy the motifs from the farmers there.

i.e. Zenimax doesn't want the casual player to motifs.

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

Found one earlier today in craglorn.

Kalcipher1

I've only found 1 Motif in a container, ever. I've gained 60 levels total across 2 factions and only found 1 Motif.

Auralia

You must not search thouroughly enough. I usually find 1 motif every day or 2.

Skirmish840

Do tell us your secret Auralia

Auralia

It's not really a secret, it's just Iam very thourough, in every area I go to I take time to check every crate, bag, cabinet etc. I often see most players just quickly run by and not bother to stop and check. You wont lvl as quickly though. These are just the usual motifs though as Iam only lvl 27. Don't know if it's the same for the motifs in vet lvls like daedric.

Saerydoth

I found 2 today within 15 minutes...

Iorail

Saerydoth wrote: »

I found 2 today within 15 minutes...

Same, a daedric and an AE, withing an hour. I also see they reverted back to how containers where originally, getting a lot of racial stones and recipes again.

Yusuf

Iorail wrote: »

Saerydoth wrote: »

I found 2 today within 15 minutes...

Same, a daedric and an AE, withing an hour. I also see they reverted back to how containers where originally, getting a lot of racial stones and recipes again.

Thank god

lishiping84

So which means the patch note is wrong about the drop rate? They actually increased the dro rate instead of decreased?

Skirmish840

Sounds like it...

Catsocks

I got a Barbaric today

elrond2002

Wayamean... in all my playing I found 1... i figured they were totally rare... got tons of cooking recipes

Iorail

lishiping84 wrote: »

So which means the patch note is wrong about the drop rate? They actually increased the dro rate instead of decreased?

No, I'm pretty sure they took off the ninja nerf they had in place and just reduce the motif drop a little bit from what it was at release, if that makes sense to you. Which is what they should have done 4 weeks ago instead of driving the prices of a Daedric Motif to half a million gold in less than a month from 60k.....which btw, are back down to less than 60k again as more and more people realize motif drops are back again.

PVT_Parts

Skirmish840 wrote: »

So after reading this.

Itemization
The rate at which you can earn racial motifs and provisioning recipes from lootable containers and furniture has been slightly reduced.

I haven't found one in weeks, does this mean I'll never find one again (or for a very long time) or have you fixed it to a predetermined chance, say if I open X amount of lootable containers and delete Y amount of rubbish from my packs then I have Z chance to find a Motif.

Yeah I know I'm dreaming, just trying to find a way to settle this news with myself, I can only imagine that Motif prices will go through the roof even more after this.

I'm not QQing, I just want to understand the mechanics so I don't have unreasonable expectations and therefore utter disappointment....

At least you have found one. My thread topic would be "Will I Ever Find a Motif Book." I'm VR4 and still none.

Iorail

PVT_Parts wrote: »

Skirmish840 wrote: »

So after reading this.

Itemization
The rate at which you can earn racial motifs and provisioning recipes from lootable containers and furniture has been slightly reduced.

I haven't found one in weeks, does this mean I'll never find one again (or for a very long time) or have you fixed it to a predetermined chance, say if I open X amount of lootable containers and delete Y amount of rubbish from my packs then I have Z chance to find a Motif.

Yeah I know I'm dreaming, just trying to find a way to settle this news with myself, I can only imagine that Motif prices will go through the roof even more after this.

I'm not QQing, I just want to understand the mechanics so I don't have unreasonable expectations and therefore utter disappointment....

At least you have found one. My thread topic would be "Will I Ever Find a Motif Book." I'm VR4 and still none.

Only advice I can give you is don't farm them at all, just loot normally as you move thru a zone, don't log out to farm them at all or you will really never see one again.

Skirmish840

No I've found many, of the basic ones, 2 chars 4 main crafts for self sufficiency requires a lot of Motifs. I don't have any of the rare ones yet, just the norms.

Thanks all for your replies, I have hope again

PS: especially after reading your insight Iorail you got my Insight Award

Eorea

I find them with relative regularity... but they are all Khajiit for some reason.

Ardeni

In another thread a dev commented that this sentence in the patch notes was something that was already addressed in patch 1.0.5 but which they had forgotten to mention in the notes. He/she also stated that the drop rate of motifs was not further decreased in this patch. It is a funny way of saying it, I grant you that, and I thought that this meant that they decreased the rate even more in this patch. Good news that they didn't as I've only found like 3 motifs (2 cheap ones, 1 primal) after the patch 1.0.5 while I found 20-30 motifs before that.

killedbyping

The only way to obtain Motif or Recipes now is to exploit Instanced areas. Period.

ZOS Forcing us to cheat in order to get regular items which not affect game play in any way...

RobShu

I have been very thorough in my searchings of areas when it comes to lootable containers and such, have a level 49 NB, and am only missing 2 motifs - Daedric and AE. You just have to be thorough when it comes to going through lootable items in the world (chests, sacks, dressers, barrels, crates, etc.), and make sure you loot them all.

Takanami

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey there, everyone. We wanted to clarify a couple things for you about this issue -

The note you’re seeing in today’s patch notes regarding the reduced rate of earning racial motifs and provisioning recipes is actually for a reduction that already happened in patch v1.0.5, but we unintentionally missed the patch note for it when it was first introduced. Our apologies for the confusion this may have caused.

When this reduction initially happened, it presented an issue that caused more empty containers and furniture than intended. That issue has been fixed in today’s patch, so you will no longer find interactable objects saying they have items, but are actually empty.


Note: Post edited for a spelling mistake, oops!

^ Just to clarify

Still sh*t hard though

LadyDestiny

killedbyping wrote: »

The only way to obtain Motif or Recipes now is to exploit Instanced areas. Period.

ZOS Forcing us to cheat in order to get regular items which not affect game play in any way...

I hate to be one of those that keep logging to obtain. I really have better things to do with my time. Not saying anything bad to those that do it, as I have done it in the past in Vulkhal Guard to obtain the more common ones. After the nerf, I quit logging, and since I have been at the VR zones I have only looted one primal out of a desk, and two blue recipes just by running through the areas, and new zones I move into. Drop rate was horrid. I don't want to have to resort to camping instances. That is just boring.

Lukee

Any good instanced areas to farm in the Aldemeri Dominion zones?

Arsenic_Touch

Motifs were already nerfed in a prior patch.
The current patch note is old and they forgot to take it out.
(Which means they ninja nerfed them in a previous patch)
Now the containers are working properly, your chances of finding one has gone up. Not as much as launch but still better than it was yesterday.

kaladhorb16_ESO

Auralia wrote: »

It's not really a secret, it's just Iam very thourough, in every area I go to I take time to check every crate, bag, cabinet etc. I often see most players just quickly run by and not bother to stop and check. You wont lvl as quickly though. These are just the usual motifs though as Iam only lvl 27. Don't know if it's the same for the motifs in vet lvls like daedric.

With my second char I opened every *** container and found only one motif till level 20.
With my first char I opend every container too and I found all motifs (not the books 10-14) till level 20...

Do you now understand that I am really pissed off?

Skirmish840

Found 2 norms last night, Thx ZOS for fixing this