Why does Z favour magicka casters so greatly over melee
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Dealdrick✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »NoMoreChillies wrote: »the same reason dropped gear vastly outclasses crafted gear
wish i knew that reason
Are you kidding me.?it is quite the opposite crafted sets are superior across the board. It actually is a bad thing for gear progression
I wouldn't go as far as "across the board," there are some dropped sets that are very strong. But yes, crafted gear certainly has its place.0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭NoMoreChillies wrote: »
Incorrect on skyrim
Heavy plate Mage with enchants for free resto and free destro spells
Unstoppable literally that was king0 -
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✭Is it really though? Maybe you are only talking pvp, but most mobs I fight, the spell casters are hurting the hell out of me, which they should do.
However, when I get close to them, they die very fast.
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✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »NoMoreChillies wrote: »the same reason dropped gear vastly outclasses crafted gear
wish i knew that reason
Are you kidding me.?it is quite the opposite crafted sets are superior across the board. It actually is a bad thing for gear progression
please inform yourself:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/104070/proof-dropped-gear-crafted-by-huge-difference/p1Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm curious if ppl are choosing not to craft/enchant/wear multiple sets.
Generally speaking casters seem better cause their dmv is spell based BUT melee is also VERY powerful if you mix and match.
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JJDrakken✭✭✭I have come to the conclusion that Bethesda hired a social expirement team (aka ZOS) to find out if gamers can be brainwashed into cross dressing. So far the results are indicating yes. But more testing is required for a definitive answer. The player base has met this trend with some resistance, but their will can be broken.
@Erykgrimm Cept Bethesda has nothing to do with this game. Zenimax own's Bethesda. Created this team on their own to make this game. Bethesda doesn't really have much say in what goes on pretty much. Has 0 to do with this game, besides provide the backdrop & lore.
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ErykGrimm✭✭✭I have come to the conclusion that Bethesda hired a social expirement team (aka ZOS) to find out if gamers . can be brainwashed into cross dressing. So far the results are indicating yes. But more testing is required for a definitive answer. The player base has met this trend with some resistance, but their will can be broken.
@Erykgrimm Cept Bethesda has nothing to do with this game. Zenimax own's Bethesda. Created this team on their own to make this game. Bethesda doesn't really have much say in what goes on pretty much. Has 0 to do with this game, besides provide the backdrop & lore.
Bethesda was in charge of marketing ESO. Any deviation from the framework of the game that Bethesda and ZOS agreed on has to be approved by a member of Bethesda. All of the lore, the environment, npcs, and story progressions have to fit into bethesda's world. Other than that, you are 100% right.0 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭All classes are magicka based. Ive been trying the "Restro" (resto+destro) staves, dont like Destro much, so now im testing resto+bow. To be honest, I like the synergy between the 2, I use some stamina and magicka in a nice combination, and vampire drain ability to fill my sta/health bar in the end of fights, of course only when I solo.Fimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC0 -
Yankee✭✭✭✭FYI, while this thread is still going, the OP has created his fourth nerf casters thread.1
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JJDrakken✭✭✭I have come to the conclusion that Bethesda hired a social expirement team (aka ZOS) to find out if gamers . can be brainwashed into cross dressing. So far the results are indicating yes. But more testing is required for a definitive answer. The player base has met this trend with some resistance, but their will can be broken.
@Erykgrimm Cept Bethesda has nothing to do with this game. Zenimax own's Bethesda. Created this team on their own to make this game. Bethesda doesn't really have much say in what goes on pretty much. Has 0 to do with this game, besides provide the backdrop & lore.
Bethesda was in charge of marketing ESO. Any deviation from the framework of the game that Bethesda and ZOS agreed on has to be approved by a member of Bethesda. All of the lore, the environment, npcs, and story progressions have to fit into bethesda's world. Other than that, you are 100% right.
WRONG AGAIN. Bethesda makes Single Player games. This game is under Bethesda name, but it's a new name for to garner more sales for Zenimax Studios. Bethesda has 0, I do mean 0 input for this game. @erykgrimm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Game_Studios
That's what Bethesda is in charge of, that Battlecry Studios. Zenimax Studios made a Bethesda Publishing thing, to garner name recognition for Zenimax Studios. It honestly has 0 to do with Bethesda. Bethesda that you know is Bethesda Game Studios, they opened a sub studio under them called Battlecry. Zenimax still owns Bethesda & it's subsidiaries.Edited by JJDrakken on 6 June 2014 04:531 -
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Every mmo since the invention of time favours caster over melee (except the tank). No mmo has found a good balancing yet.0 -
Ninnghizhidda✭✭✭✭You guys act like this is something new for the Elder Scrolls series, melee has always been the weakest way to go. Magic is always the easy button.
Pardon me, but absolutely NOT. And I have played all the games in the series to completion, even a bit of the very first (Arena). I always played a "warrior" in Heavy (Daedric) armour and using either 2-handers or 1-h / shield. Never had a problem, quite the opposite, each and every game has been a great experience.
Of course, being Elder Scrolls, one could certainly use and learn a multitude of skills, yep even "magic" ones. But I never felt I had something forced down my throat, which I start to feel here in ESO.
Yes, yes, I do understand this is a MMO, but meh, being an AAA title, carrying a very heavy name and also requiring a subscription, one would think, it would actually be far less biased and truly offer "freedom" with playstyles, and, yes, "balance".Edited by Ninnghizhidda on 6 June 2014 08:270 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭@Ninnghizhidda to be honest ESO has no idea how to balance or provide a balanced environment
For the record I played a warrior for close to 10 years and never felt unbalanced ever1 -
steveb16_ESO46✭✭✭✭✭ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »@Ninnghizhidda to be honest ESO has no idea how to balance or provide a balanced environment
For the record I played a warrior for close to 10 years and never felt unbalanced ever
This. Basically the game was not tested at the levels where this emerges as a problem 1-50 you can have a good time with a range of builds. You can, as advertised, 'play as you like' and be okay.
Once the story finishes you can 'play as you like' still but you won't succeed unless you are a very good player. Stick and dress builds become semi compulsory because they are so much more powerful and so much easier to play.
The problem with ESO is that once you finish your faction story it becomes a different game.1 -
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✭ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »I think the consensus is that this is the case so two questions for you
1. Is this true are staff and dress builds superior to the point that people will go that way with their own
2. Is this a bad thing
3. Does Z care?
For me it is
Yes
Yes
No
Because magic is power
And all melee just a pointless waste of partyslot- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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Stratti✭✭✭✭✭ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »I think the consensus is that this is the case so two questions for you
1. Is this true are staff and dress builds superior to the point that people will go that way with their own
2. Is this a bad thing
3. Does Z care?
For me it is
Yes
Yes
No
Because magic is power
And all melee just a pointless waste of partyslot
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Dayv✭✭✭✭Why does Z favour magicka casters so greatly over melee?
I don't think Z do it's the game that does because of its design, This in counterpoint to other ES games where the design favoured weapons.
Melee and magic are reasonably evenly matched below lvl 50. It comes down to the fact that scaling on VR can't have been tested properly. It feels like they just added one linear sliding scale to normal content and assumed that all aspects of the game would scale equally. Bad mathematics, not a vendetta against melee.0