Affect of quick&dirty "fix" of soul trap

Yasha · June 2014

Gaudrath wrote: »

That's actually a good change. Think for a bit. What's more important, being able to cast spells on critters, which does absolutely nothing, or being able to not accidentally target a rabbit hiding in a bush with your finisher and waste magicka/stamina instead of, you know, killing the monster it was supposed to hit.

Quit complaining about every little thing! Do you need to heal critters? No. By the way, smart heals don't work the way you describe them. You can *always* cast a non targeted heal like Breath of Life.
Can you soultrap critters? No! Are they a threat to you? NO!

Are they everywhere covering every inch of your screen? No. Don't act like they are preventing you from doing anything because they don't.

If you wanna kill rabbits, whack them with your weapon. And quit whining.

Game forums are amazing- the OP brings up and gives a pretty solid review of a serious bug (which is now being looked into) and gets shouted down by the fanbois with the always insightful "quit whining".

Its amazing how fanbois can even turn a major problem in the game into a "good change" in their minds.

Arsenic_Touch · June 2014

I have run into plenty of issues where a critter wanders into the fray and my skills stop working, it's gotten me killed a few times. It was a dumb change. They should've just changed the soul trap skill itself instead of screwing over players in other areas.

Regoras · June 2014

Censorious wrote: »

I don't kill 'critters' in RL unless they are a genuine threat/problem, it's a warped thing to do - just bullying on a supernal scale. .

...you are aware this is a video game... and that comparing actions of people in a video game to real life suggests that you may have a subscription of "issues"... right?

Oogly · June 2014

Just add it to the list of things they tried to fix without thinking about the actual implications.

It's almost "funny" when you think about it.

Pimbee · June 2014

dpgirl wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Heals aren't targeted, so have you actually tried casting it even when grayed out? I've had plenty of bow skills show as grayed out, even when I'm within range, and I'm still able to cast them.

yes I've tried... they do not work. When I first noticed this right after 1.1.2, I couldn't figure out why my spells wouldn't work... it was later I noticed they were grayed out... and later on after that I figured out why they were graying out... critters. I tested on many types of critters in various zones on multiple characters, and its always the same.... my heals do not function if a critter is targeted, meaning it prevents me from healing myself or other players. I don't purposefully target critters, but now I have to take extra steps to make sure I'm NOT targeting one, even though I'm not actually trying to target anything, I'm just trying to watch the fight and HP bars over peoples heads.

I'm with you. The fact that I could not heal is what made me notice that the skill was grayed out. So, yes - tried healing even though it was grayed out. I don't even remember seeing a critter anywhere either; unless it was counting my own pet O_o... or that little spider that was about 25m to the right of my target. lol

GrimCyclone · June 2014

Guys honestly? It just shows how much of a band-aid they use instead of coding prowess. It's lazy and pathetic.

k9mouse · June 2014

Aaklor wrote: »

I just wanna kill the cats, wtf cant I kill the cats?!

Cats are Khajiit and can kill you instead

zeuseason · June 2014

So this was a blanket fix that needs to be reworked. Hopefully sooner than later.

Also, anyone else notice that critters often have larger target boxes than other things? I dunno how many times I've tried to mouse over mobs/players but can never seem to get around the snake critter.

Arsenic_Touch · June 2014

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/106276/gamebreaking-new-bug-abilities-gets-locked-out-with-critters-nearby-fix-this-asap/p3

For those that didn't see. They identified the issue and are testing their fix.

babylon · June 2014

ArRashid wrote: »

BAD "fixing" is what ruined ESO. Each patch introduces more bugs and annoyances than it fixes... along with illogical decisions about the bot problem which so far have hurt only the regular PLAYERS, I guess this game's on highway to hell if they don't rethink their decision-making..

This^ So much this.

Reykice · June 2014

Its beyond *** up, we wiped once in a dungeon because the healer "had all heals greyed out" as he said so he did not cast anything....

Its also annoying as hell, who the hell approved this change and why?

ZENIMAX, maybe hire some TESTERS to actually test the game... sometime this year before you shut it down would be good.

dynamite7673b14_ESO · June 2014

Eivar wrote: »

The point, which the OP never clearly said, is that if you are fighting and a critter wanders into the fray you could very suddenly not be able to use any spells because it crosses your path......damned black cats.

A better solution for the consuming trap exploit would be to have the healing effect require more than 1hp to be consumed, or whatever threshhold would exclude critters.

Wouldn't it be easier for them to just leave things the way they are and change all critters to black cats?

dynamite7673b14_ESO · June 2014

People that aren't seeing this as a major problem for all classes do not play very much.

AZRainman · June 2014

Aaklor wrote: »

I just wanna kill the cats, wtf cant I kill the cats?!

This is the only sensible post in the whole thread...lol. Damn hissing angry critters should die.

Sakiri · June 2014

AZRainman wrote: »

Aaklor wrote: »

I just wanna kill the cats, wtf cant I kill the cats?!

This is the only sensible post in the whole thread...lol. Damn hissing angry critters should die.

Welcome to why I hate Daggerfall.

All the NPCs sound like pretentious turds.

Jeremy · June 2014

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Its beyond *** up, we wiped once in a dungeon because the healer "had all heals greyed out" as he said so he did not cast anything....

Its also annoying as hell, who the hell approved this change and why?

ZENIMAX, maybe hire some TESTERS to actually test the game... sometime this year before you shut it down would be good.

I play a healer also and I can attest to this exact same problem. Because it's been happening to me too. In fact I just logged out of the game because of it. And it is annoying as hell.

If they don't fix this soon I may take a break until they do. That way I can actually fight without having my abilities randomly greying out on me and killing me or my teammates.