EP...Let's just take our ball and go home!

casselna_ESO · May 2014

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So who decided that EP can't have a server (aside from wabbajack that reputedly is the only server now that has any EP presence)? I was really excited that DC had come into Goldbrand and decided to play with EP. But now, DC holds everything 24/7 and when we do take stuff back, they rally 400 people and take it all back, with or without defenders.

Was cool having a struggle with the even numbers of DC that had presented themselves, but now, they are swarming goldbrand and when I say swarm, they defend a keep with 50 people, even it only 4 are trying to take the keeps. HOME keeps, mind you. And not only do they defend, but they feel the need to exploit defense too...oil pots on the ground anyone?

And just say you're fed up of trying to take keeps or resources and decide to PvE out there...Nope, nuh-unh...they've decided every dungeon, skyshard and PvE quest belongs to them to and have multiudes of people spawn camping those as well.

Thanks DC. What was nice and fun and even flair has turned into the DC horde from Oblivion.

/Throws hands up in frustration.

Leaok · May 2014

LoL 400 ? Ganked Again averages about 8 people online, The crows might get 10. The 13th unless its a Tuesday night might have around 15 on. On a Tuesday night they do have a PvP event where they bring out about 30-40... add that up and you still do not have close to 400. Most of the time EP actually outnumbers us.

We are able to take things because EP moves as a zerg. You all go to a single location. We split up and take multiple places at once. We know you will stop 1-2 of the attacks but since you dont split up we are able to take keeps with small numbers.

For example last night we hit Chalman, Bleakers and Aleswell all at the same time.

Your zerg went to Glademist. We sent about 12 people to tie you up at Gladesmist while small numbers took Chalman,Bleakers and Aleswell almost at the same time.

At each of those keeps less then 10 people.

DC is so over powered that our score is currently the lowest of the campaign.

The only difference I have seen happen in the past weeks is that the VR10 guild that was basically doing everything for EP has not been logging in Goldbrand as much.

casselna_ESO · May 2014

*facepalm* you missed the point of the post :P I half expected trolololololols all over this post.

I have not been to GB in a few days. Last night I was there and I wasn't with glademist and I saw a lot more than 8-10 people defending bleakers. Crap, there was only four of us and you sent far more than 2x our numbers. We decided to go take Seajanus instead and again...more than 2x our numbers defending.

Of course, I take perverse pleasure in knowing that a few days ago, we 3 manned taking one of your scrolls and running it back :P. Right from under your noses. Instead of taking Rayles to close the gate, you went to defend fort warden.

LOL

But that was days ago,

Oh, and I meant what I said about that oil pot thing. If you already out number us...why do you need to exploit to boot? ((not you specifically, the general 'you' of DC))

TheHumanClone · May 2014

I do agree that things seem lopsided now but honestly we do not have that many except as the above person said on tuesday , The 13th come out in a swarm. I loved the fights back and forth even when we lost, it was fun but it seems even before more DC came in the EP people were leaving Yardovich (Sp?) seems to have left with his group which was the funnest to play against. Not saying others were not just some reason he stuck out the most.

I am severely upset at how last night went there is *NO* need to take all those keeps like that with no opposition or reason. Biggest thing harming the server has been the lack of a AD presence more than the 10 that you may see.

Oil pots on the ground are exploits..? I personally have never heard that one i mean why would it not be possible to spill a pot on the ground just as easy as over the edge of something. And the funny part is i learned that myself after coming to goldbrand and seeing EP doing it. Same with the Caltrops exploit that i time and time again see EP using. But what can you do ... nothing until they fix it. But both sides i've seen using it nothing to complain about just suck it up and move on.

I really wish we could revive the server im not into the wabbajack as a home campaign i like some of the mid size fights we've had here on goldbrand. Hoping the 13th will leave as they seem to do the most trolling / causing issues internally (Not all of them just most).

Any ideas to revive the server , some of us DC are definitely all ears as we want to have fun and play and without you guys we have nothing.

galiumb16_ESO · May 2014

Is this on EU? On NA I have never seen Goldbrand more than one bar at any point. Frankly it just another campaign that should be shut down.

Ruddertail · May 2014

It's interesting. On my main server (Wabbajack EU) daggers and elves both ally against pact every time there's a notable pact presence.

...and we still dominate that campaign completely.

Methinks pact is more popular with European players. Why? I have no idea whatsoever.

casselna_ESO · May 2014

Not sure if that is the zerg DC guild that moves from server to server, taking it over, defeating morale and then leaving it broken in hopes that EP (or AD, but come on who are we kidding lol) won't rise up and take it again. And since they've moved on to the next server to break, they won't come back under the next cycle.

I was (am) all excited about having opposition and as one of your guys asked, we don't mind keep trading and emperor trading, as it gives some fun, but being blue walled...not so much. EP gets that on every other server other than wabbjack, its like...come on, really, give us a break.

Ruddertail · May 2014

casselna_ESO wrote: »

Not sure if that is the zerg DC guild that moves from server to server, taking it over, defeating morale and then leaving it broken in hopes that EP (or AD, but come on who are we kidding lol) won't rise up and take it again. And since they've moved on to the next server to break, they won't come back under the next cycle.

I was (am) all excited about having opposition and as one of your guys asked, we don't mind keep trading and emperor trading, as it gives some fun, but being blue walled...not so much. EP gets that on every other server other than wabbjack, its like...come on, really, give us a break.

NA, I assume? Man, the faction balance must be totally different, the situation's reversed on the EU campaigns. Pact mostly dominates, except a few servers.

Leaok · May 2014

What exactly do you expect us to do? We cant make your side actually play. If they stopped joining the campaign there is nothing DC can do. EP was dominating the campaign. When Ganked Again joined three weeks ago you all had DC pushed to the main base camps. Ganked Again joined and we had some great fights vs the VR10 guild that was out there. We logged on every evening with all our scrolls and keeps gone and we fought back until we either capped an emp or had to log for the night.

The last 4-5 days we log on and nothing or very little has been taken at all. We do not even see the VR10 guild any more. Basically your side has stopped playing.

I ask again what do you want us to do? We want a challenge. We want people to fight. Unfortunately very little AD ever come out to play. I think Monday was the first night in awhile where I saw more then 10 players from AD out and fighting.

Tuesday and Thursday seem to be the night with larger than normal amounts of DC due to two different guilds having guild PVP nights where they have all of their members come out and play.

NordJitsu · May 2014

Using oil pots on the ground is not an exploit. Stop being silly.

casselna_ESO · May 2014

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

What exactly do you expect us to do? We cant make your side actually play. If they stopped joining the campaign there is nothing DC can do. EP was dominating the campaign. When Ganked Again joined three weeks ago you all had DC pushed to the main base camps. Ganked Again joined and we had some great fights vs the VR10 guild that was out there. We logged on every evening with all our scrolls and keeps gone and we fought back until we either capped an emp or had to log for the night.

The last 4-5 days we log on and nothing or very little has been taken at all. We do not even see the VR10 guild any more. Basically your side has stopped playing.

I ask again what do you want us to do? We want a challenge. We want people to fight. Unfortunately very little AD ever come out to play. I think Monday was the first night in awhile where I saw more then 10 players from AD out and fighting.

Tuesday and Thursday seem to be the night with larger than normal amounts of DC due to two different guilds having guild PVP nights where they have all of their members come out and play.

You miss the point of this thread. This is nothing more than a rant fest perpetrated by me.

And for what you should do....stop playing, let us take the keeps if you want something to do!

liquid_wolf · May 2014

I've been on Goldbrand since Day 1.

AD controlled it.
EP controlled it.
DC controlled it.

Your complaints are limited in perspective and understanding.

DC has gained a great many new members on Goldbrand because DC players have become consistent in Cyrodiil. You can ALWAYS find a group, so therefore more people are joining and staying.

The "Elite" PvPers who once dominated on EP and AD... and might still... simply don't appear to be opening up to outside groups and people. Maybe they just have not been as friendly as the DC has to it's public groups.

Don't know...

But since release, DC has always been the underdog... and now it seems we control Goldbrand.

That will likely change in a few weeks when AD or EP become consistent and friendlier to their public players.

Ruddertail · May 2014

Hey daggers, move to the EU server (it's in NA anyway) and give us a challenge instead. That way neither of our factions have to stare at map devoid of enemy players.

casselna_ESO · May 2014

liquid_wolf wrote: »

But since release, DC has always been the underdog... and now it seems we control Goldbrand.

Not that I have ever seen. My first experience with DC was the DC horde train right here on GB. Then they left, then AD rolled in. No Idea what happened to them. Then EP kinda began doing stuff and then we owned it.

liquid_wolf wrote: »

That will likely change in a few weeks when AD or EP become consistent and friendlier to their public players.

Aside from a certain individual I will not name, most EP is usually pretty friendly. So I'm confused.

liquid_wolf · May 2014

casselna_ESO wrote: »

Not that I have ever seen. My first experience with DC was the DC horde train right here on GB. Then they left, then AD rolled in. No Idea what happened to them. Then EP kinda began doing stuff and then we owned it.

Not sure what you want as a response... I've been a part of the groups that have crowned over ten emperors. I managed to obtain it myself about two weeks ago.

We played from 8PM Eastern to about 3AM Eastern most nights. We met heavy resistance some nights, but kept pushing on. Mostly just to pass people that had higher APs but were no longer playing.

It's probably only in the past 3 weeks that I'm seeing full raid groups and then extra on Goldbrand in DC.

At least 30 people, and then likely another 20 or so elsewhere. Prior to the previous three weeks... we had about 12 or 15 in our group... and only about 5-10 more outside it.

NordJitsu · May 2014

Is there a day/time that AD and DC usually show up?

This was originally my guild's home campaign, but we left due to lack of action.

We might pop back in for some EP fun if we know there will be fights.

casselna_ESO · May 2014

sweet, hope you do. Logged in to GB and there was no EP presence. I did see AD take a keep!

Sidereal · May 2014

The issue is that there are too many servers. GB wasn't even one of the initially active servers, but tends to be more of a hideaway for casual pvpers and buff seekers. US players in general have a horrible habit of fleeing the server when the going gets tough, and it's likely your players have moved on to the next hideaway/easy buff server.

Leaok · May 2014

Ganked Again will be on the server every night from around 8pm EST until at least midnight some times later for DC.

As for GB being for casual pvpers lol that is a joke. We have had better and tougher fights on GB than we ever had on AB or Wabba.

Glurin · May 2014

Sidereal wrote: »

The issue is that there are too many servers. GB wasn't even one of the initially active servers, but tends to be more of a hideaway for casual pvpers and buff seekers. US players in general have a horrible habit of fleeing the server when the going gets tough, and it's likely your players have moved on to the next hideaway/easy buff server.

Can't speak to if it's just US players, but I'm definitely seeing the "flee the server when they start losing" part. Auriel's Bow is dead. AD dominates it completely. When DC and/or EP are actually around they do pretty well. But as soon as AD starts taking keeps there, the other two factions jump ship.

Treksdot · May 2014

Crossposted from Ganked Again forums because Permafrost is having trouble getting his ESO forum account activated:

"If you don’t play on Goldbrand frequently, then just stop typing because you honestly have no clue what has been happening—ESPECIALLY if you aren’t even on DC. I am the guild leader of GA so I think I can speak with pretty solid credibility about the state of the campaign the past few weeks.

Number one, Goldbrand has been an awesome yet small campaign. Any talk of closing it is laughable and probably comes from a terribad who can only hack it amidst the massive zergs of AB/Bloodthorn/Wabba. Number two, EP absolutely dominated the campaign up until we showed up. The Crows did a fantastic job trying to hang on, but they were severely outmanned. Since we arrived with our 8-12, we’ve been able to coordinate and completely turn things around. If people can’t stand a challenge from a SMAL FORCE (read again: not a zerg) then just go play mahjong. I’m sorry if it was never expected that a new guild would show up and beat the tar out of EP who had grown used to using numbers or lazy game mechanics to win.

Three, we stopped PvPing at 9est last night. Once the inner ring was capped and we took the scrolls, it was pointless. Clearly no one could muster the strength to challenge our 12-man. Any excessive capping that was done was coordinated by other guild(s). I can’t lay the blame on x13 or the Crows, because I can’t say for sure what they did once we had to call it for lack of a challenge. Only they can speak to what they did or did not do last night.

I can tell you we have no desire to crush morale. We want good competition, fun fights and a constant cycle of Emperors. I’d rather have fun losing then be bored as heck winning."

Lord_Draevan · May 2014

Treksdot wrote: »

Crossposted from Ganked Again forums because Permafrost is having trouble getting his ESO forum account activated:

"If you don’t play on Goldbrand frequently, then just stop typing because you honestly have no clue what has been happening—ESPECIALLY if you aren’t even on DC. I am the guild leader of GA so I think I can speak with pretty solid credibility about the state of the campaign the past few weeks.

Number one, Goldbrand has been an awesome yet small campaign. Any talk of closing it is laughable and probably comes from a terribad who can only hack it amidst the massive zergs of AB/Bloodthorn/Wabba. Number two, EP absolutely dominated the campaign up until we showed up. The Crows did a fantastic job trying to hang on, but they were severely outmanned. Since we arrived with our 8-12, we’ve been able to coordinate and completely turn things around. If people can’t stand a challenge from a SMAL FORCE (read again: not a zerg) then just go play mahjong. I’m sorry if it was never expected that a new guild would show up and beat the tar out of EP who had grown used to using numbers or lazy game mechanics to win.

Three, we stopped PvPing at 9est last night. Once the inner ring was capped and we took the scrolls, it was pointless. Clearly no one could muster the strength to challenge our 12-man. Any excessive capping that was done was coordinated by other guild(s). I can’t lay the blame on x13 or the Crows, because I can’t say for sure what they did once we had to call it for lack of a challenge. Only they can speak to what they did or did not do last night.

I can tell you we have no desire to crush morale. We want good competition, fun fights and a constant cycle of Emperors. I’d rather have fun losing then be bored as heck winning."

Gotta give you guys credit for stopping after capturing the Red Ring Keeps, people usually cap the whole map and gate-camp for hours on end... DC on Bloodthorn do that for hours on end then complain that the server's depopulating. $:\$

Edit: Wait... I just checked on ESOstats, you guys didn't stop at the Red Ring keeps...

NA Goldbrand:
Ebonheart Pact: 250,182 +0
Keeps x0 - Outposts x0 - Resources x0 - Scrolls x0
Aldmeri Dominion: 142,039 +0
Keeps x0 - Outposts x0 - Resources x0 - Scrolls x0
Daggerfall Covenant: 117,365 +532
Keeps x18 - Outposts x3 - Resources x54 - Scrolls x6

Might be bandwagoners jumped onboard when they heard it's a relatively empty server where they can get all the Scroll/Emp bonuses.

Permafrost · May 2014

Ok, I’m finally activated. Thanks for my post, Trek! Ruining the campaign is just plain stupid. We were really cultivating something fun on Goldbrand, minus a lack of consistent AD force to make things really interesting.

Rojnaar · May 2014

A lot of steady and good EP players have left Goldbrand because Dcooldoc won't give up emperor. I've never expected to get emperor, or the former emperor plus's that result, so I haven't left yet, though I am considering moving away. That could also be a reason there's so little AD presence anymore, can't say for sure with their faction.

DC's have been crowning a different emperor every switch it seems, and their groups are feeling tougher as a result. Good for them, but for the other 2 factions it's probably just going to go downhill from here, and even DC will suffer a slow down on crowning in Goldbrand.

TheHumanClone · May 2014

We had a feeling it was Dcooldoc. Don't quite understand the point in him wanting to stay if there is no more of you to give him Emp so he wont have anyone to fight either.

casselna_ESO · May 2014

Treksdot wrote: »

Crossposted from Ganked Again forums because Permafrost is having trouble getting his ESO forum account activated:

"If you don’t play on Goldbrand frequently, then just stop typing because you honestly have no clue what has been happening—ESPECIALLY if you aren’t even on DC. I am the guild leader of GA so I think I can speak with pretty solid credibility about the state of the campaign the past few weeks.

Number one, Goldbrand has been an awesome yet small campaign. Any talk of closing it is laughable and probably comes from a terribad who can only hack it amidst the massive zergs of AB/Bloodthorn/Wabba. Number two, EP absolutely dominated the campaign up until we showed up. The Crows did a fantastic job trying to hang on, but they were severely outmanned. Since we arrived with our 8-12, we’ve been able to coordinate and completely turn things around. If people can’t stand a challenge from a SMAL FORCE (read again: not a zerg) then just go play mahjong. I’m sorry if it was never expected that a new guild would show up and beat the tar out of EP who had grown used to using numbers or lazy game mechanics to win.

Three, we stopped PvPing at 9est last night. Once the inner ring was capped and we took the scrolls, it was pointless. Clearly no one could muster the strength to challenge our 12-man. Any excessive capping that was done was coordinated by other guild(s). I can’t lay the blame on x13 or the Crows, because I can’t say for sure what they did once we had to call it for lack of a challenge. Only they can speak to what they did or did not do last night.

I can tell you we have no desire to crush morale. We want good competition, fun fights and a constant cycle of Emperors. I’d rather have fun losing then be bored as heck winning."

I never laid blame on you. If you were the guys that contacted me the other day, then yeah, I made a post giving you mad props for bringing the competition, even if we beat you back. We had fun, and truly, I appreciated your presence so much on GB I tipped my hat off to you.

Secondly, the day I joined, there wasn't no 12 man we were facing. There was at least 20 of you, defending the outposts of all things, while whatever force that EP mustered played elsewhere and complained about getting stomped.

My guild tried earlier in the week and I was not there to participate they quit due to overwhelming odds, and my guild doesn't quit easily, and nor are they incompetent.

As for Dcooldoc, I haven't seen him on in ages. Does he have to abdicate in order to pass the crown? Only asking because I have never held the crown

TheHumanClone · May 2014

The way emperor works is who ever is currently in the lead on the leader boards when their alliance captures each of the inner keeps gets crowned so until someone passes him in points he will still get emperor without even being on.

Rojnaar · May 2014

He's been around, and yes he'd have to abdicate.

Leaok · June 2014

Guess your happy now that EP is zerging this server up?

Gisgo · June 2014

Hey, wait... the ball is mine

ozgod22_eso · June 2014

casselna_ESO wrote: »

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So who decided that EP can't have a server (aside from wabbajack that reputedly is the only server now that has any EP presence)? I was really excited that DC had come into Goldbrand and decided to play with EP. But now, DC holds everything 24/7 and when we do take stuff back, they rally 400 people and take it all back, with or without defenders.

Was cool having a struggle with the even numbers of DC that had presented themselves, but now, they are swarming goldbrand and when I say swarm, they defend a keep with 50 people, even it only 4 are trying to take the keeps. HOME keeps, mind you. And not only do they defend, but they feel the need to exploit defense too...oil pots on the ground anyone?

And just say you're fed up of trying to take keeps or resources and decide to PvE out there...Nope, nuh-unh...they've decided every dungeon, skyshard and PvE quest belongs to them to and have multiudes of people spawn camping those as well.

Thanks DC. What was nice and fun and even flair has turned into the DC horde from Oblivion.

/Throws hands up in frustration.

Perfect example of how silly these QQ posts can be. A lot can change in a week or two.