New UI/Addon Manager

  • Swampster
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    it detects all my addons.. but doesn't auto update them.

    I go to my installed mod page in the ui, it detects them, and indicates they're out-of-date by highlighting the version number in red.. there appears to be a 'greyed out' autoupdate button next to the mods, but the button does nothing.

    To get the thing to update, I have to go into the option deselect the auto update check box, then reselect it.. it then goes through the update cycle.

    Other than that, it's fine... though tracking mod 'addons' would be good too..
    Swampriel - Nightblade (Archer Build) - Ebonheart Pact - Veteran
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  • Cairenn
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    @Swampster Yeah, that's a known bug that's going on with it. We're working on a fix for it. In the meantime, you can either continue using the work around you are, or an alternate option would be to just turn off the auto-update button on the options tab like you are, but then instead of re-enabling it, just go back to the installed tab and use the update all button at the top left. Sorry for the inconvenience. :|
    Cairenn
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    ESOUI
  • Swampster
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    It's not really a problem... just thought I'd mention it :)
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  • Cairenn
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    Oh, we absolutely appreciate the info, trust me. Better to hear about a bug multiple times than to not hear about one at all. :)
    Cairenn
    Co-founder & Administrator
    ESOUI
  • Doctoruniverse
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    Minion *** sucks. It installs in area's I dont want it too. It has certain files in area's that are hidden.

    When I close it down it still runs in the background making it impossible to delete addons while its running manually.

    Most of all I have never seen such a clunky addon manager in my life except maybe for curse addon manager.

    And addon manager should be :

    Lightweight
    No flashy graphics on it
    Be transparent in where it puts it content

    Minion fails in all these regards.
  • Cairenn
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    @Doctoruniverse Could I ask you to post in the Minion forum with some more specific information than what you have posted here, please? What do you mean by it installs in areas you don't want it to? Where is it installing? What OS are you using it on? How do you find it 'clunky'? Have you looked through the support threads in the Minion forum? When you post, could I ask you to include the information requested in this thread as well, please?

    It is called a beta for a reason, and we are trying our best to make it better and get it out of beta. We can't help people or fix bugs with 'information' such as "it *** sucks".
    Cairenn
    Co-founder & Administrator
    ESOUI
  • Granz
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    It works perfect for me. I make sure I install from Minion and it always updates just fine.
  • vince131nub18_ESO
    this is my experience with it.
    i downloaded it and installed it. it started searching for what addons i had installed already it locked up/froze/refused to work. so i restart and try again and the same thing happens. i dont touch it for 2 weeks and try it again. works perfectly. strangest thing ever
    There is no safty to be found in a sword. a sword brings death. it does not give life. it is a responsibility... a burden... this is no gift. it is a curse. i hope one day... you will forgive me.
  • Auldjohn
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    In my experience, playing on both the NA and EU Megaservers, Minion works great! After a little initial confusion with how to "switch" between ESO Megaservers, I was instructed to just add a second instance of ESO in Minion set to the EU Add-Ons directory.

    I then unchecked Auto Update, and now use the Installed tab in Minion to Update All. Works like a charm. B)

    The only stall had with Minion was when I somehow used a bad directory pointer when I tried to manually change the Add-Ons directory when switching from NA to EU. (I accidentally used a shortcut instead of browsing to the Add-Ons directory in My Documents.

    Changing Minion to have two "instances" of ESO solved that problem, one for NA, one for EU. The one-time stall has not happened since. It has been stable for me, and very easy to use.

    Even though Minion is Beta, I can search for Add-Ons, get detailed info about any that interest me, and even Install the new Add-On if I want to try it out, all within Minion.

    Support for Minion on the ESOUI Forums has been outstanding. Overall, Minion Beta gets (*) "highly recommended" (*) in my book. It's becoming essential for Add-On management for ESO.

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  • xMovingTarget
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    Love it, its great and saves a lot of time. Buut, if you have a good chunk of addons it gets slower. takes like a minute to gather my addon information now. EU Client aswell

    so i can only give a 9/10

    If it would go faster it would clearly be 10/10
    Edited by xMovingTarget on 23 May 2014 08:27
  • Cairenn
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    Love it, its great and saves a lot of time. Buut, if you have a good chunk of addons it gets slower. takes like a minute to gather my addon information now. EU Client aswell

    so i can only give a 9/10

    If it would go faster it would clearly be 10/10
    Hi xMovingTarget,

    We released an update for Minion yesterday. Have you updated yet? If yes and if it's still being really slow for you, would you mind posting in the Minion forum please? Also please include this information to help us!

    If no, try updating and see if that helps, please, and then let us know.

    Thanks! :)
    Edited by Cairenn on 23 May 2014 08:42
    Cairenn
    Co-founder & Administrator
    ESOUI
  • Vantor
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    Minion's become faster than before, but i think there should still be room for improvement. I'm running ~60 addons with no trouble at all.
    Edited by Vantor on 23 May 2014 15:31
    Invictus EU Guild Officer
  • MorteASH
    MorteASH
    Works fine for me. Takes the leg work of tracking down locals for the add-on's.
    You don't have to auto update, allows you to manually update by taking you to the individual web sites (how I do it. Like to feel like I'm taking part).
  • meghuskoow
    Love this program! Works great so far, i havnt seen it do an update yet but thats cuase of the new patch and the addons them selves not being updated yet. Easy to use and work with. 5 out of 5 dragons recommend.
  • Auldjohn
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    @Cairenn,

    Happy to report that virtually all of my current MODS, including ZAM's buffs and @Wykyyd's great tools are now up to date thanks to MINION Update All! MINION Beta still gets my new (*) (*) (*) (*) (*) + 1/2 (*) rating and rising. :D It's great to enter Tamriel and find no Add-On errors. Continued kudos!
    Edited by Auldjohn on 28 May 2014 11:07
    @AuldjohnThe Elder Sages' GuildMaster Sage & Co-Founderfacebook.com/groups/theeldersagesguild
    "Old gamers never die; they just respawn and game on!" • Our Slogan: Have Fun!!

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  • JBerkleyJr
    JBerkleyJr
    Soul Shriven
    I love Minion, but would be nice to get a 32-bit version so I can stop manually updating my wife's mods...
  • Seerah
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    @JBerkleyJr‌
    It's been available since last month, and is listed right under the download button: http://minion.mmoui.com/ ;)
    Edited by Seerah on 28 May 2014 17:46
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    My Addons
  • egosumacunnus
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    Confirming Minion is a useful tool.
    If real life had a block function i would go out more.

    Proud to have spent a year paying to BETA test ESO for consoles.

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  • zhevon
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    I am using 64-bit Vista it doesn't install; just dies. Not sure where the log files might be to give me a hint on the problem.
  • zgrssd
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    Minion works. It seemed to get stuck while reading my addons the first try (or maybe it just takes really long because I have all 3 clients), so I had to restart it. But afterwards it worked fine.

    And the best part is that it does not even seem to need admin rights to install, as it places itself into the User Profile (instead programm folder).
    Elana Peterson (EU), Dominion, Imperial Sorc, Rune & Alchemy Crafting Char
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  • Cairenn
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    zhevon wrote: »
    I am using 64-bit Vista it doesn't install; just dies. Not sure where the log files might be to give me a hint on the problem.
    We just pushed out a new beta update today. Try reinstalling it. If you still have problems, please post in the Minion Support forum. Include the information requested in this thread, please.
    Cairenn
    Co-founder & Administrator
    ESOUI
  • Ysne58
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    I stopped using it when it stopped detecting what it had already installed so they weren't showing up in game.
  • kewl
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    Been using minion since launch. It's great.
  • Cairenn
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    Errr, if they were already installed, and remained installed, then they would show up in game regardless.

    As I just told zhevon, just above your post, we pushed out a new beta update today. Try reinstalling it, see if it fixes your problems with it. If it doesn't, please post in the Minion Support forum. Include the information requested in this thread, please.
    Cairenn
    Co-founder & Administrator
    ESOUI
  • FrauPerchta
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    Minion here, love it.
  • zgrssd
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    Ysne58 wrote: »
    I stopped using it when it stopped detecting what it had already installed so they weren't showing up in game.
    All it does is taking the work of downloading, unzipping and copying the files from you.
    Plus looking if there is a newer version on ESOUI. If they are installed for that client, they will show up in that client. If they are not, they won't.
    While in Minion can delete addons, I doubt it does so except for your express order. As in "Rightklick -> unsinstall".
    Edited by zgrssd on 30 May 2014 08:56
    Elana Peterson (EU), Dominion, Imperial Sorc, Rune & Alchemy Crafting Char
    Leonida Peterson (EU), Daggerfall, Kajiit Nightblade, Tank & main Crafter
    Kurga Peterson (EU), Ebonhart, Ork Dragonknight, Provision Mule
    Coldblood Peterson (EU) Argonian Templer, Daggerfall, Healer
    Incendia Peterson (EU), Dominion, Dunmer Dragonknight, fire DPS & healer
    Haldor Belendor (EU), Ebonhart, Breton Sorcerer, Tank
    Fuliminictus Peterson (EU), Ebonhart, Altmer Sorcerer, Electric DPS

    Me babbling about PvE roles and Armor, Short Guide to Addon Programming (for Programmers)

    If you think anything I or somebody else said violates the Rules of this Forum, you are free to flag my posts. Till I get any notifcaion from this, I just asume you know you have no case against me or Zenimax disagrees with you.
  • JBerkleyJr
    JBerkleyJr
    Soul Shriven
    Seerah wrote: »
    @JBerkleyJr‌
    It's been available since last month, and is listed right under the download button: http://minion.mmoui.com/ ;)

    Oh thank you!!! My wife thanks you very much, too!
  • Seerah
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    You're welcome!
    Author & Moderator at ESOUI
    My Addons
  • Khazaad
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    Auto update appears unreliable. Sometimes I have to uncheck/recheck the option. Upon clicking it back to auto, it runs whatever updates have been piling up since it stopped checking.

    Also it would be nice if it was a little more proactive with maintaining the mods. Is it responsible for monitoring mod conflicts and outdated info? Is it supposed to be? Come to think of it, it seems like the only thing it does is getting the mods files and placing them in the ESO folder.

    Edited by Khazaad on 1 June 2014 07:37
  • Cairenn
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    Khazaad wrote: »
    Auto update appears unreliable. Sometimes I have to uncheck/recheck the option. Upon clicking it back to auto, it runs whatever updates have been piling up since it stopped checking.

    Also it would be nice if it was a little more proactive with maintaining the mods. Is it responsible for monitoring mod conflicts and outdated info? Is it supposed to be? Come to think of it, it seems like the only thing it does is getting the mods files and placing them in the ESO folder.
    Rather than try to recreate every thread necessary to fully answer all of your questions, I'll instead refer you to the Minion forums. :)
    Cairenn
    Co-founder & Administrator
    ESOUI
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