Good, they shouldn't be so super rare that people corner markets on them. I see the same people asking to buy peoples motifs, collecting them all and changing the prices higher and higher. Also the amount people sell the materials for is ridiculous. I've collected my fair share, but I don't screw people over with ridiculous pricing.

This should be intended and not even an error ---- with the same reasoning behind ZOS not wanting an Auction House, non-bound items should not be so rare that people can corner markets on them. I loot a lot so regardless I find plenty of items. However there were people taking advantage of motifs being rare and selling for ridiculous prices. I don't care about selling the extras I find, I earn plenty of gold just from questing and selling sets, mats, etc.. for reasonable prices. I've both been gifted and gave as a gift rare motifs ---- for free. So I see this as a positive change if it's true that they are popping up easily now --- and the materials should in high level vet zones.

I'm pretty sure it's easier now to find rare motifs in Patch 1.1.2. On the European server people are shouting WTS Deadric Motif in all zones. Prior to the patch you would maybe see one person selling a Daedric Motif every 3 to 5 days.
I've also found one myself, searching for only about 10 minutes, and I also found several pieces of Copper, Palladium, Argentum and Daedra Hearts.

2 barbarians in Glenumbra in 3 hours.

I also noticed a lot more unique sellers in trying to sell all 4 rare motifs. In particular there was a lot of Ancient Elf and Barbarian for sale.

I am only in stormhold and have found only one or two motifs on my own, the rest I paid for. I won't pay more than 500 for one, so not many. I wait for people who sell them cheaper and jump on it. I would really like a wood elf one but so far not happening. I don't know when/if I'll ever get high enough level to ge the ancient ones, but for now would be happy with the lower ones xD

Look like the cupboard, trunk and cabinets has changed, previously they was all empty of held lockpicks if lucky after you had opened 5-8 and cooldown was more than 24 hours, you would only get empty cabinets even after a day offline.

Currently 20% are empty after looking in most houses in all the cities in Stonefall VR1. closed containers who contains noting is rare say 5%.

Even if more than a day cooldown on each containers you can search multiple zones and hundreds of containers daily, 10-50 times more containers and drop rate will increase the same way.

Guild of 30 online three rare including one daeric, then most did pvp.
In short most found nothing but more found today than the last 2 weeks.
As I loged out it was WTS daeric 60k.

Snit wrote: »

This is the problem. "Normal" players almost never find motifs, because the drop rate must be adjusted around those who log in and out and in and out for hours or days at a time. The mechanics encourage a playstyle indistinguishable from (and every bit as enjoyable as) professional gold farming.

The find rate limiter should have included some sort of timer, ideally a delay from when you logged in. Endless relogging should not be the path to glory.

/thread

I have news for you guys. This part of the patch was in the game 2 patches ago or so. They just didn't update the patch notes and left it in the 1.1.2 patch notes. That's why they've all started drying up over the last week or so. Took them a few weeks to start selling out.

I'm also getting a lot more recipes and motifs. The big difference is that there are a lot fewer empty ones.

I usually find motifs in dungeons, catacombs etc. in the deeper levels. Don't bother searching in locations that are easy to get to like people's homes or castles for example. Also, they seem to occur mostly in chests and 'cupboard' style containers. Interesting though, I never found any until after the Craglorn update myself. I wasn't really looking for them, but I was diligent in searching for treasure though. Anyway, to all my fellow hardcore MMO crafters (we who truly love the game)... Happy Motif Hunting!

vyal wrote: »

I've seen zero motifs, blue recipes, or purple recipes, since the patch, myself, at VR5, in VR5 content.

That is, no Ancient Elf, no Daedric. Nothing 10-14.

So, personally, nope, 100% disagree with the OP, it's the same as it was since 1.0.6, for me.

Lol...thats because Deadric and Ancient Elf only drop in 3rd Alliance....tinfoil hat more.

I've finally encountered motifs recently since launch, grabbed 2 Barbaric and a Primal on the same day in Stonefalls (VR); got lucky with that 2nd Barberic because I used that to trade for a Daedric + gold!

Now all I need is to grind for Ancient Elf in the future (idk I'm not into that armor, but never hurts to hav everything to sell), and upgrade to Imperial Ed. at one point...

But yes, I am more than happy to see the price gouging stop for "rare" motifs.

I started playing with the early release and have now hit level 46. I just found my first motif last night.

I did not exploit or log out, and was simply trying to level my provisioning. I found 2 motifs in under an hour.

Ancient elf and Daedric are now so common the prices are dropping while you watch. Saw one person trying to sell combo's (AE + daedric only 60k TOTAL!), and was seeing Ancient elf last night for under 40k by mor than one person.
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I love how there are pages and pages on the "nerf", but when it is CLEARLY buffed back up, so much so that prices are at or BELOW what they were in the first month, people still want to cry nerf.

The in-game-market is all the proof we need. Multiples for sale in chat in every 35+ zone in the game at all times of day, and that is not even an exaggeration.

Most of you got your wish for a buffed drop rate, now we can all get them, and yet still so many tears.