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Was the "Battlefield Mobility" passive fixed?
Sadae
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Was the "Battlefield Mobility" passive fixed? This is for 1H+Shield that allows 25% or 50% (for 1 or 2 spent skill points spent on it) increased movement speed while blocking. I know there were very few complaints about this since most shields users were more concerned with bashing, but I find that when I'm tanking in a group role that I REALLY want this ability!
I was hugely disappointed when I spent a point on this only to discover it that didn't work. Without a direct comparison of the before & after it's too hard to tell if anything has changed. If it's fixed then I'll spend the second point on it. If not, well, I guess let downs are the norm for this game...
I was hugely disappointed when I spent a point on this only to discover it that didn't work. Without a direct comparison of the before & after it's too hard to tell if anything has changed. If it's fixed then I'll spend the second point on it. If not, well, I guess let downs are the norm for this game...
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Sadae✭✭✭Anybody? A response from a GM would be nice, and if it wasn't fixed, is it being looked into? Any time frame for a fix?0
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Sadae✭✭✭*drums fingers*
I realize most people only used a 1H+Shield for the bash exploit, but come on, surely some people actually use it to play a tank. Is "Battlefield Mobility" fixed or not? I guess ESO doesn't care either.1 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I am still waiting to get to lvl50 on the S&B. I will test it soon. I didn't know that it was not working.
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Nope, they have not fixed it. Move at same speed with a 2H than with a 1H1S.
Lets make some noise about this guys.2 -
Sadae✭✭✭
Yes, let's. This is very frustrating. ESO, how about paying attention to the people who use this skill line as intended, and not for exploits? This shouldn't be difficult to fix, and should have been fixed long ago, or least with the other fixes that came with Craglorn.luke.glanfordrwb17_ESO wrote: »Nope, they have not fixed it. Move at same speed with a 2H than with a 1H1S.
Lets make some noise about this guys.1 -
ShintaiDK✭✭✭Nope. The Sword and shield line is more broken than NBs. And that says a lot.
Pierce armour is broken, battlefield mobility, deadly bash values is broken and so on.1 -
pinstripesc✭✭✭It's broken? That explains why it was so underwhelming...![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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Kalann_Pander✭✭✭I use it, and it works fine for me (lvl 34 NB).
Keep in mind that 40% armor reduction doesn't mean 40% more damage - if your target isn't heavily armored, the effect is indeed pretty minor, but against tanks it works wonders
Opinions are like buttholes : Everybody has one, and they usually stink.
3 things to reduce stamina/magicka imbalance :
- Use magicka to block abilities costing magicka, instead of stamina.
- Add % damage reduction to heavy armor.
- Add block penetration to 2H.0 -
Drasn✭✭✭✭Xancathb16_ESO wrote: »
Yes I've never read/heard anything about this, fairly sure it's just made up.
It is broken, you can do the math easily from numbers in game.
Hit a mob with X attack, then hit the same mob with pierce armor, then hit the now debuffed mob with X attack again.
You should be doing 40% or higher damage with the second X attack, however you are only doing around 4% higher damage.0 -
pinstripesc✭✭✭Kalann_Pander wrote: »I use it, and it works fine for me (lvl 34 NB).
Keep in mind that 40% armor reduction doesn't mean 40% more damage - if your target isn't heavily armored, the effect is indeed pretty minor, but against tanks it works wonders
We're talking Battlefield Mobility, which makes you move faster while blocking, no changes to damage, ye?
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Robocles✭✭✭✭✭pinstripesc wrote: »Kalann_Pander wrote: »I use it, and it works fine for me (lvl 34 NB).
Keep in mind that 40% armor reduction doesn't mean 40% more damage - if your target isn't heavily armored, the effect is indeed pretty minor, but against tanks it works wonders
We're talking Battlefield Mobility, which makes you move faster while blocking, no changes to damage, ye?
He was referring to the side discussion that developed regarding Pierce Armor.0 -
Robocles✭✭✭✭✭thomas.k.grayb14_ESO wrote: »Xancathb16_ESO wrote: »
Yes I've never read/heard anything about this, fairly sure it's just made up.
It is broken, you can do the math easily from numbers in game.
Hit a mob with X attack, then hit the same mob with pierce armor, then hit the now debuffed mob with X attack again.
You should be doing 40% or higher damage with the second X attack, however you are only doing around 4% higher damage.
No, you won't. 40% less armor does not equate to 40% more damage. It will scale in effectiveness based upon how much armor the mob has. But, at no point will you ever get a full 40% more damage.0 -
Sadae✭✭✭^ What Robocles said.
Back on topic to the "Battlefield Mobility" passive please.
Can we get a GM response to this please? Every skill in this game should be working by now. This isn't something that we should still be asking for another month from now.
I'm sure if it was giving too much extra mobility instead of none you'd of fixed it a long time ago. Too many sword & board people are already unhappy, so how about doing something positive? Please fix this.0 -
Sadae✭✭✭So I suppose this is another thing that's never going to get fixed, even though it's been broken since day one.
If I swear up a storm in here will a GM respond then? Maybe I should try it...0 -
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No. It just reduces the armor by 40% this only means that when it calculates the damage you do the armor value is only one factor in the equation.thomas.k.grayb14_ESO wrote: »Xancathb16_ESO wrote: »
Yes I've never read/heard anything about this, fairly sure it's just made up.
It is broken, you can do the math easily from numbers in game.
Hit a mob with X attack, then hit the same mob with pierce armor, then hit the now debuffed mob with X attack again.
You should be doing 40% or higher damage with the second X attack, however you are only doing around 4% higher damage.
Edited by PBpsy on 25 May 2014 19:30ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Unless I was out of my mind and overcome by wishful thinking I did observe a slight increase in my foreword moving speed while going from rank 1 to rank 2 in Battlefield Mobility. Moving backwards seems to be as slow.The thing is that I would need somebody that doesn't have it to test it.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
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✭I'm pretty sure it did get fixed. It was the first thing I checked after the patch
I move a bit faster while blocking with my shield now, compared to blocking with my bow. (Seems to be about 1.5x faster, which matches up with the passive)
It's noticeable.0 -
Sadae✭✭✭We need somebody with and without the skill moving while blocking side by side to know for sure. It shouldn't be something you "think you might be moving faster". It should be obvious.
I have just 1 point in it for 25% if somebody from Ebonheart Pact wants to whisper @Sadae in-game that has both points in it and we can compare.Edited by Sadae on 26 May 2014 19:060 -
Sadae✭✭✭I did some testing the way Valencer did. (I should have thought of that myself!) I timed a set path I walked while blocking with a bow, and then with a 1H+shield. With my one point in "Battlefield Mobility" I did indeed walk it 25% quicker. I spend my second point in "Battlefield Mobility" and tested it again, and I walked it 50% quicker.
So "Battlefield Mobility" works now. It would've been nice if the patch notes said this.0 -
PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes it works. It is now possible to retreat from those ~2.5m radius red circles in time while keeping my shield up. It is worth the skill points,ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0
