tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

I've been checking threads to see how the new patch faired (still downloading), and it seems you've screwed up more than actually fixed. So I'll ask: Where is your QA team? Did you boot them? If this is the case then I would ask players to boycott the PTS server until ZOS get more QA testers because people are sick of testing your extended beta.

Gedwyn wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

esoone wrote: »

There testers are AMAZING. They found the duping bug with gold bank, the duping bug with hirling mails the fishing of legenry items instead of fish and are all now filthy loaded on crafting mats and cash so they must be great.

Been reported since the beta, and they still managed NOT fix it before release. Amazing huh?

Missed the sarcasm there did ya?

It's not just QA - it starts at the top with the lead game designer or producer or project manager - whoever is responsible for defining the severity level for bugs. The duping bugs found in closed beta weren't unknown - they either a) put them into a low priority queue for fixing or b) couldn't figure out a fix quickly enough and had to put more time into it. Seeing as how they were cruising towards a released to the public launch date, my money would be on A.

QA is a problem though, just judging from yesterday's patch. They certainly aren't doing much regression testing, or they would have found the VR mob difficulty issue quite quickly. You probably can't do a full regression every patch for every quest etc, which is why some of the bugs slip through. That's an accepted fact for software development.

However, it would literally take someone minutes to either go into the game environment and verify mob hit points or just check the mob database and see that a VR 8 mob should have X amount of health. Obviously that wasn't done.

As for the more - to me personally - annoying bug with the escape key and several other issues (wayshrines and skill points being disabled) that pops up anywhere from 15 mins after a log in - if that's part of the client/server combo than it should have been caught - but if it's due to an add on then that's really out of their control. Hopefully they have the time and resources to figure it out.

I'm hoping they get their *** together, but judging from some of their development decisions and the lack of communication when issues come up, I'm not holding my breath.

Would love to know how many subs cancel over the next week or so as Zenimax torpedoes themselves once again.

Drachenfier wrote: »

As silly as it sounds, its almost like this company is trying to drive customers away. I can't fathom how half the changes in this patch made it live.

Mystborn wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

Another thing to add. Shame on the guilds simply joining the PTS to only get a headstart on the trial content, I'm sure a lot of bugs were crushed by your amazing effort.

A lot of bugs were found, reported and fixed in Trials and Craglorn. They also made some pretty big difficulty changes based on feedback and observing Trial runs and metrics from them.

The PTS testers are players too - we split our time between PTS and playing our real characters on Live. I spent most/all of my time on the PTS testing Craglorn related stuff, because that was the main part of the update.

One last thing to consider is compare the 1.1.2 notes to the 1.1 and 1.1.1 notes - there are a bunch of changes in the 1.1.2 patch that went on live that we never saw on PTS. We can't test them if they aren't there.

I'm going to be relieved when they wipe the PTS and open up testing of future content updates to anyone with a subscription, at least then maybe we'll stop hearing complaint about how we didn't test well enough or should be ashamed.

Eh, probably not.

Also - I had to lol a little that you're complaining about testers when you didn't even log in to "test" how good the patch is yourself, you just regurgitated other people's complaints.

Noobie wrote: »

you PTS people have done a crappy job, thanks to you trying to find exploits in craglorn, and the shorts cuts to it you basically ruined this game. I blame ZoS as well but hard to know if they were informed of the increase of Health of VR mobs the delays in skill use. If Zos wants to save this game they need to Open the PTS to everyone and have a dedicated forums to fixing things in it.