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The Solution to Bots is Simple!
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Even if you could identify people who could be trusted to report directly to GMs, I don't agree with lessening the Subscription, it should be for the pleasure of knowing you're helping keep the game Botless.Ever heard of Prefect system?
Appointing a few fair individuals to serve as "hall monitors" (why not call them HM) from the ranks of players, who would be reporting (giving players the ability to ban could be disaster) bots and possible exploiters straight to the GM who has duty that moment, for, let's say, 1 euro cheaper subscription fee (as long as they report enough of them the month before - false alarms shouldn't count or count as negative points to discourage exploiting in the weaker-willed).
That way you could eradicate all negative elements in the game, while you don't need more than 1 GM online at a time appointed by vanquishing evil
. I think it could still be relatively cheap for you.
People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭LexonLightbringer wrote: »Ok so by your logic, you need to see a GM to know they are there. Right, I haven't in my 9 years of playing WoW seen 1 GM, ergo following your logic, there aren't any GMs in WoW.
Naturally, and totally, wrong. They are monitoring it but do you honestly think they are going to announce with music and pomp "tadadada, Lord Esteemed GM of Zenimax is here!". Really? They announce it when they want players to know they are there to help report BOTs, that doesn't necessarily mean they announce it every time. If I were to follow your logic, I would have to say there are no GMs because I have not gotten that message and I've been playing since the pre-launch.
I know Zenimax is looking into the problem and I trust them to find a solution, but I'm also not so dense to think that there are easy solutions and Zenimax is an Evil Corporation led by this man:
Really, the BOT problem is complex and difficult and not something easily removed. Every MMO have this problem and I remember it took Blizzard years to develop something that seemingly worked, though, there are still countless BOTs in WoW.
When I mentioned WOW and its ability to curb Bots, it was isolated to the first year of launch. Bots were non-existent then, I don't know about now. As far as them announcing or not announcing, I am not sure how that's works. But if they were smart they would auto-announce there existence every time, because in general chat someone is always looking for one to terminate the infestation. The community is actively engaged in reporting, we need the company to be actively engaged too.
The latest problem with bots in WoW seems to be on the battlegrounds. I've seen many a complaint from people who wound up in teams that were nothing but bots, or fighting against teams of all bots, or, heh, both. I seem to recall one fellow claiming to have won an objective-based bg (like Arathi or something) by himself because the bots were just running around like headless chickens.
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Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »LexonLightbringer wrote: »Ok so by your logic, you need to see a GM to know they are there. Right, I haven't in my 9 years of playing WoW seen 1 GM, ergo following your logic, there aren't any GMs in WoW.
Naturally, and totally, wrong. They are monitoring it but do you honestly think they are going to announce with music and pomp "tadadada, Lord Esteemed GM of Zenimax is here!". Really? They announce it when they want players to know they are there to help report BOTs, that doesn't necessarily mean they announce it every time. If I were to follow your logic, I would have to say there are no GMs because I have not gotten that message and I've been playing since the pre-launch.
I know Zenimax is looking into the problem and I trust them to find a solution, but I'm also not so dense to think that there are easy solutions and Zenimax is an Evil Corporation led by this man:
Really, the BOT problem is complex and difficult and not something easily removed. Every MMO have this problem and I remember it took Blizzard years to develop something that seemingly worked, though, there are still countless BOTs in WoW.
When I mentioned WOW and its ability to curb Bots, it was isolated to the first year of launch. Bots were non-existent then, I don't know about now. As far as them announcing or not announcing, I am not sure how that's works. But if they were smart they would auto-announce there existence every time, because in general chat someone is always looking for one to terminate the infestation. The community is actively engaged in reporting, we need the company to be actively engaged too.
The latest problem with bots in WoW seems to be on the battlegrounds. I've seen many a complaint from people who wound up in teams that were nothing but bots, or fighting against teams of all bots, or, heh, both. I seem to recall one fellow claiming to have won an objective-based bg (like Arathi or something) by himself because the bots were just running around like headless chickens.
The early morning PVP bots were a grinders delight in WoW, they were rare in bust periods though.
Bots are more noticeable in ESO because of the way the game works. It stands to reason that if a bot can collect every type of node you will notice them more than if they are limited to two types.
In wow starting area's were spread over many maps so the bots would be thinned out. But most of all it's because of the public dungeons. If you enter a public dungeon and there are bots there, you will see them. If a bot is in a instance you won't.
So in truth WoW probably has just as many bots. You just don't see them as much.
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....Imagine an army of 100 against an army of 100 000. The BOTers have the advantage of numbers. It's like a hydra, cut of one head and 3 more will spawn in its place.
On Class Balance
The real dilemma is that; Powdered doughnuts are overpowdered, the chocolate doughnuts are too chocolaty, and the coconut crunch doughnuts have more coconut than all other doughnuts. This is OUTRAGEOUSLY unfair to other doughnuts!
So from now on, all you special snowflakes get is nasty plain doughnuts...enjoy!0 -
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The gold farmers use stolen credit cards, GM will not be able to stop them, only to move them around more, it would have the impact of reducing them from highly populated areas,And pray tell me, how do you prevent those that the GM have banned on returning to the game within mere minutes of the ban?
If by ban you mean a closed/blocked account then it is that simple. How long do you think these people are going to keep paying for new accounts before it becomes financially unviable for them?
Solution is something who work on player behavior like spam filers work on email.
Compare players with know bot behavior, templars only using the spear attack farming together with other templars in the same pattern is one.
Giving all you loot to an other player at regular times is another.
Edited by zaria on 21 May 2014 17:22Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0
