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  • Tannus15
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    If the intent of the change for monolith of storms to do "sorcerer damage type" is so it can proc static reverb, someone needs to tell the combat team that procs can't proc procs.

    I setup 3 training dummys in a line, parsed the middle one down to 20% health, ended combar, and then alternated casting mages fury on the 2 end dummys

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    at less than 20% health there should be a 100% chance of procing static reverb, it didn't proc on the centre target dummy.

    you can see static did proc during the test, 8 times from 23 casts of mages fury

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    just not at all on the dummy that was only being damaged by monolith.

    Is this bugged or is this intended behaviour and the monolith damage change is for some other reason?

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
  • Aces-High-82
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    Monolith of Storms: per se this set has an interesting mechanic. Unfortunately procing only from Stormcalling damage leaves the set far behind plenty other damage oriented options. Procing of any sorcerer damage would elevate it at least to be frequently considered.
  • Tannus15
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    further testing with 5pc monolith and 5pc innate axiom

    5pc innate
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    4pc innate
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    you can see that 5pc innate is hitting harder even though the 4pc has higher spell damage in cmx (i messed up and the piece i swapped was a necklace wtih a spell damage enchant.)

    regardless, you can see that it's counting as a class skill, so the damage is counting as sorcerer damage, I just don't see what the point is since nothing in the sorc kit interacts with it in that way that i can think of.
  • Tannus15
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    Monolith of Storms: per se this set has an interesting mechanic. Unfortunately procing only from Stormcalling damage leaves the set far behind plenty other damage oriented options. Procing of any sorcerer damage would elevate it at least to be frequently considered.

    it's best in slot for any static content.
  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    Community Manager
    Tannus15 wrote: »
    If the intent of the change for monolith of storms to do "sorcerer damage type" is so it can proc static reverb, someone needs to tell the combat team that procs can't proc procs.

    I setup 3 training dummys in a line, parsed the middle one down to 20% health, ended combar, and then alternated casting mages fury on the 2 end dummys

    hqgegzlb6pua.png

    at less than 20% health there should be a 100% chance of procing static reverb, it didn't proc on the centre target dummy.

    you can see static did proc during the test, 8 times from 23 casts of mages fury

    n9q5n1ekz2af.png

    just not at all on the dummy that was only being damaged by monolith.

    Is this bugged or is this intended behaviour and the monolith damage change is for some other reason?

    We see this and are investigating. We'll follow up with more info as we have it. Thank you for raising this!
    Jessica Folsom
    Associate Director of Community - ZeniMax Online Studios
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  • kuggsishan
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    Please please let Slugthrug's Hunger apply on all healing (including overhealing) instead of just effective healing.

    It's such a cool set! But as it is, the set will remain dead in the water until this change is made, which is how it should have been in the first place.
  • RedMamba
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    You forgot to add the Maarselok nerf you made that's not on the notes @ZOS_Kevin
  • RedMamba
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    Pyrebrand also got adjust with zero updates on the patch notes @ZOS_Kevin
  • Chrlynsch
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    Ran some quick tests found some interesting interactions, first note is it looks like the werewolf fury passive is functional however the tooltip for Mylenne's is actually only 15 without the passive applying. Thus 25 fury.

    Regularly weaving LAs with abilities this is the time it takes to get rampage ready:

    Rip and Tear spam: 45 seconds (44% Rampage uptime)
    Rip and Tear + Mylenne's: 42 seconds (48% Rampage Uptime)
    Rip and Tear + Feral Carnage: 33 Seconds (60% Rampage Uptime)
    Rip and Tear + Feral Carnage + Mylenne's: 28 seconds (71% Rampage Uptime)
    Rip and Tear + Feral Carnage + Hircine's Rage x2: 28 seconds (71% Rampage Uptime)
    Rip and Tear + Feral Carnage + Mylenne's+ Hircine's Rage x2: 25 seconds (80% Rampage Uptime)
    Feral Carnage + Hircine's Rage spam: 23 seconds. (88% Rampage Uptime)
    Feral Carnage + Hircine's Rage spam + Mylenne's: 20s (100% Rampage uptime aka werewolf pinatas mode!)

    35 fury would go a lot farther than the current 25. We can see it is pulling roughy 3 seconds off due to when it procs within the cadence and biggest swing in uptime comes from pinata mode or standard offensive rotation. Uptime would be under ideal conditions in a fight while chaining Rampage while available. Increasing the base value to 25 + 10 from Blood Rage passive would make this set take off about 5 seconds to build up your Rampage when actively attacking targets, which would make this set feel more impactful especially in pvp where the other bonuses are significantly less impactful.

    Even swapping this to instead increase all fury generation by 5 would make it better. (Increase blood rage passive by 50%)
    Caius
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  • Firstmep
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    @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom will there be a patch note for all the set changes on pts?
    Maarselok is getting a reduction vs players altho the value is not in the tooltip.

    Foolkillers ward got 4x the damage shields compared to live but only about 60% of the restore value.

    Necropotence now gives % max magicka instead of a flat value.

    Also this is a bug but Spriggans Vigor still stacks infinitely like ddf did week 1 of pts.

    I dunno if there are any more set changes not in the notes on pts, but there probably are.
    Edited by Firstmep on 5 September 2026 09:15
  • madmufffin
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    Firstmep wrote: »
    @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom will there be a patch note for all the set changes on pts?
    Maarselok is getting a reduction vs players altho the value is not in the tooltip.

    Foolkillers ward got 4x the damage shields compared to live but only about 60% of the restore value.

    Necropotence now gives % max magicka instead of a flat value.

    Also this is a bug but Spriggans Vigor still stacks infinitely like ddf did week 1 of pts.

    I dunno if there are any more set changes not in the notes on pts, but there probably are.

    You'll get nothing and you'll be grateful.
  • Radiate77
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    All of these set tweaks and here I am still waiting for Shroud of the Lich to do anything Necromancer related.
    Founder of New Age Crusade, the #1 Battlegrounds guild on Xbox NA
  • Udrath
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    Dragurkin set has been a cornerstone set for builds since its was announced. It has been the best set for pressure builds in PvP for ages. At this point just redo the set with a ruleset similar to dragons appetite, give it a cooldown, and return the single target effect it used to have.

    I am bias though against this set and it deserves a nerf, and in fact this type of flat damage bonus shouldn’t exist. But the reason these builds exist is to counter something else in the first place, and that is a different problem that should be nerfed alongside this set.
    Edited by Udrath on 6 September 2026 05:11
  • taugrim
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    Another vote for undoing the nerf to Draugrkin's Grip.

    If ZoS is concerned about over-performance of that set with status effect builds, I could see toning down the damage from 330 to a lower value, e.g. 300 (a 9.1% nerf), but not gutting it all the way down to the proposed 186 value (a 43.6% nerf).

    It would also be extremely helpful if nerfs could be incremental adjustments (e.g. -9.1%) not a massive reduction (e.g. -43.6%).
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