Earning experience and Alliance points contribute to it. But as far as i know Experience earned should be during a PvP zone, like Cyrodiil or Imperial City.
You can maybe wander around in Imperial Sewers with Experience Scroll or Potion on and kill random mobs. Full trainee gear and Mora's Whisper mythic as well if you fancy.

XP gained in Cyrodiil delves count towards veterancy... grind the monsters in there.

Join a group in Cyrodiil, even if it’s just a random group from zone chat and run with them. Together you can take objectives faster and you’ll get more AP from killing players. Also make sure to pick up missions at your home gate. The kill 150 / 9 resources / 3 keeps don’t give a lot of AP but specific capture quests such as capture resource x or keep y give a bit more. You’ll get AP and XP at the same time and, in my experience and based on my own calculations, the combined AP and XP gained this way translates to about 1.5 veterancy rank points per 1 AP (I did not track XP separately). YMMV.

You shouldn't do what you despise just for a "reward." If it were me and I did what I despised, I would make others despite it too. By firing siege. Lots of siege.

Eat a low grade xp torte during midyear mayhem and you can get it done in less than a week. I realize that’s not helpful now since you’re starting, but it’s good information for the future and I believe they said mid year mayhem will be back on a more frequent basis. I went from 45 to 100 in about five days just from grinding battlegrounds. They are simply the best because they’re fast and even a loss gives you something like 25K during MM. I wanted to get it done since I’m gonna be shelving this game for a while so at least I have the rewards out of the way if I choose to return.

dcrush wrote: »

Join a group in Cyrodiil, even if it’s just a random group from zone chat and run with them. Together you can take objectives faster and you’ll get more AP from killing players. Also make sure to pick up missions at your home gate. The kill 150 / 9 resources / 3 keeps don’t give a lot of AP but specific capture quests such as capture resource x or keep y give a bit more. You’ll get AP and XP at the same time and, in my experience and based on my own calculations, the combined AP and XP gained this way translates to about 1.5 veterancy rank points per 1 AP (I did not track XP separately). YMMV.

Tried that for several hours and barely gained a level.
Idk if the group was good or not tho, but I had trouble keeping up to get anything.
I might try going as a healer next, if that counts as an assist and it gets some experience.

What I didn't do during that time is killing the delve boss.
20% is sitll 20%.

Luneca wrote: »

You shouldn't do what you despise just for a "reward." If it were me and I did what I despised, I would make others despite it too. By firing siege. Lots of siege.

Well, I also despise paying bills but I like the reward (keeping roof over my head).

Does firing siege give AP or something? xd

brtomkin wrote: »

XP gained in Cyrodiil delves count towards veterancy... grind the monsters in there.

With AP + Major Experience (+100%) and the Delve boss buff I was getting around 911 per mob in a delve. Is this normal?
Or was I in the noob delve where you won't get much XP.

Go to Cyro and follow your faction zerg. Not much else to it, really.

Veterancy is not really worth it for the rewards, except for the cosmetics, which you can't get from elsewhere. If there is some style page you really want, then you hafta commit to a PVP grind. Everything else offered by the progression track simply isn't worth the amount of time and effort. Cool extras to get for doing what you would've done anyway, but not worth it to specifically go after.

Keep in mind that the system was designed to be slow and grindy. It is supposed to serve as 'content' for 180 days after all. If you are an avid PVP player and spend several hours each day in Cyro, then gaining the points is no big deal. Some players completed it in a month.

But assuming that you are not one of the players who regularly top the Emperor leaderboard for your faction, then getting to the end requires committing to either grinding Battlegrounds repeatedly each day, or spending an hour or two each day in Cyro during prime time. Either way, it's still going to take a lot of time, but it doesn't have to feel all that aggravating.

Remember, you do not have to win BGs to get points. So, as long as you are willing to soak the losses, all you need to do is queue for a match and then phone it in. And depending on the match type, they may end fairly quickly. Rinse and repeat. Do note that you will be souring the fun of those people in your team that are actually trying to win and are playing for real. So going Cyro is the preferable option if you are looking for an easy way to grind. And once in Cyro, what you want to go after is the various capture and defence ticks. Killing players gives more points per hour but also is a lot more stressful, so going for keeps is usually the better option.

During prime, keeps switch hands constantly, and each keep flip is usually worth about 12k veterancy points, often a lot more. If you manage to join in on capturing a couple of resources as well, taking 20k per keep capture is not difficult. Depending on how the map looks and which faction you side with, it isn't that uncommon to have a couple of really big fights occur each evening, where the ending AP tick alone is between 15k and 20k. So getting 30k+ veterancy points from one fight is not impossible or even that uncommon. These are, of course, in addition to any points you gain from kills and assists. So 2 big fights can cover half of a post 50 rank. And tagging enemy players with siege is the easiest way to get assist credit. Stock up on oil. It really helps.

Half a rank a day is obtainable in an hour or two, depending on what's happening, without too much of a headache. All you need to do is follow your faction's main concentration of players and shamelessly leech capture and def ticks. And with 82 days still remaining, there is ample time left in which to do it.

XP and AP scrolls help, but won't solve the primary issue. You need to get AP and XP from PVP activities for the scrolls to boost something, and scrolls last for a limited time. After prime time, Cyro is kinda dead, and nothing is happening except for the permanently online PVP players having endless hack-a-thons at one of the outposts. Later in the evening, it isn't that uncommon for 15 to 20 minutes to pass by without much of anything happening. So you need to be strategic about when to use boosting items. The best time to use one is when your side gets the Hammer, forms a faction stack around it, and then proceeds to paint the map mono-color. Especially if this happens late in the evening when most of the enemy players have logged off for the night. Nothing like a PVDoor rampage with the Hammer for some easy points.

Of course, if gold is not a limitation, then sure, go ahead and keep constantly eating War Tortes. Personally speaking, I do not bother with them.

Beyond that, wait for the next Mayhem event and then play each day. During the last one, I think my best haul was like 12 post 50 veterancy ranks in one evening. The increased AP gain from the event, coupled with AP and XP scrolls from Tome Page rewards, made this possible, along with the increased level of activity during the event. It was pretty easy to maintain a steady flow of AP.

Outside the event... Join a group, learn to recognise a hopeless fight, and don't waste time trying to defend a keep with 6 players against a horde of 50. PVDoor a lot. Base keep capture tick is 6k AP - so like 9k veterancy points. Do daily quests. Keep checking the map for any lit-up enemy keeps and then ride like lightning to leech the points before it flips. When abandoning the defence of a keep, make sure you are tagged on the list of tick recipients. Use a repair kit to fix a wall before you bail. Many a time have I received a def tick after abandoning a keep when the timer from the last recorded player death runs out before the flags turn. And speaking of repair kits... Buy a ton of them and then go fix walls of home keeps the moment they rank up. When the keep levels, the maximum health of walls goes up, but they won't instantly jump to the new number. They will slowly regenerate to the new maximum, and you can score points by speeding this process. It is a net AP loss since their repair kits are more expensive than the gains from repairing, but it is a painless way to rank up. Don't know if it is true, but there have been plenty of jokes about some players achieving Emperor status via this method.

So yeah, that's my take on how to get veterancy ranks with the least amount of hassle. You can't really skip the time required (outside the Mayhem Event), but you can reduce the aggravation. Just go Cyro and leech points. And during lulls in action, you can alt-tab out and watch YouTube or something.

Battlegrounds

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Daily Battleground first win is a HUGE amount of Veterancy because you get a huge experience boost while still in the PvP zone. Experience scrolls do work for this. It's not good for earning AP, but it's good for Veterancy.

As far as non-PvP, take advantage of any dolmens you see in Cyrodiil, because even though experience contributes less to Veterancy than AP does, it's a massive amount of experience.

Other than that, I would join a zerg during primetime on your server, especially in Vengeance where siege is infinite. For Gray Host, you may really benefit from making a semi-PvP build (Negate is so helpful, or something like necro Colossus + Dark Convergence) or a tanky build or healer. Staying on the backline and sieging is majorly helpful, because siege is generaly short in PvP and earns a lot of AP. AoE heals give you AP credit for the kills of players that you heal.

Good luck! With how much time is left, daily BG and the next Mayhem should be more than enough. BG is very competitive right now, but making a good build for it helps, even a tanky healer.

That's what I started doing last night.
I have 7 maxed out characters. Whenever they are meta or not is irrelevant; if I cant win one match, I'll win the next cause someone in the enemy team leaves after not capturing the point within 0.001 sec of the match beginning.
Those likely to win (my 3 tanks) got the basic AP scroll on and I only do the daily win on them to not waste the duration.

The progress have been steady.
Of course, its not a perfect solution, but it works.

I'll do more of Cyrodill during Mayhem for sure.
Speaking of which, did ZOS announce when there is going to be the next one?

AP Train during Whitestrakes / Cyro PVP events. 150% food during the event is soooooo worth it.

Bo0137 wrote: »

I noticed Vengeance makes it progress faster. Can't tell why. Probably a hidden modifier

Unlike what the other poster said, Vengeance does not have a +100% AP modifier except when ZOS runs a test. It feels faster for average players to get AP in Venegance because 1) there's no queue in primetime 2) siege is freely available so there's less players standing around with 0 contribution and 3) players die faster and you're less likely to encounter a ball-group that will waste your time

You earn more AP by killing unique players. So joining a 50 man zerg in GH or BR and chasing a 12 ball group will lower the AP gain for the zerg, and increase the AP gain for the ballgroup. Zerg will get some defense ticks, but since defense ticks are split among players, you earn less the more you outnumber the enemy. You earn more if you successfully kill while outnumbered, which for average players you'll need coordinated siege to accomplish.

Given the way GH and BR are balanced, it ends up like a K-shaped economy where ballgroups earn the most AP and once they show up, your average solo pug player gets farmed and earns little to nothing. Due to population caps, most people are locked out of GH. The most optimal and balanced situation would be an equal number of players on offense and defense, and they don't get held up by unkillable ballgroups and tower humpers.

Galatherys wrote: »

I got mine through grinding battlegrounds with a stack of colovian war torte.

*Non competitive* battlegrounds, then there’s more chance of winning plus the other players are usually much less…um… intense lol

"Intense" is a very nice way to put it.

Current Deathmatch event is not comptetitve, but still I get people their marbles cause someone has 18k HP instead of 20k.
Then they act like an absolute teapots by AFKing or leaving cause we didn't get a kill within the first 5 seconds.
Or people that complain about having a "bad team again" cause we didn't stand a chance against 3 werewolves.

I get it, PvP is frustrating, everyone wants to win, but you cannot win everytime and there's so much you can conrol.
Other players make me despise PvP more than PvP itself.