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Why hasn't DK been nerfed yet?
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NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »RaidingTraiding wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »In this game people used to complain everyone's too tanky and the tank meta is boring. Then they complain about balance and site other games like overwatch or whatever, and in those games they have mechanics that work like rock paper scissors etc where there are in fact scenarios where if pulled off, you'll die no matter what
Every time something is introduced in this game to handle the tank meta people complain until it is gone, like hrothgars being over nerfed for instance, tanky players were dropping like flies. All they had to do was fix the bugged instances and things would have been fine.
The game needs tank buster mechanics like corrosive to have a healthy pvp environment and not be boring. Corrosive needs to stay, if you want something nerfed look at the dk class masteries, and buff other class masteries. Thats what they're for in the first place and giving dk any masteries is the only thing I agree on as being too much, doesnt make sense when dk is the only class that got a rework.
The rest of this is meaningless complaining
You can't argue against a tank meta and defend corrosive at the same time. what other ultimate limits incoming damage to a small percentage of your hp? Mechanics that can encourage a tank and spank playstyle are very bad for balance. The fact that you can use that ult to buff an already insane skill like whip to hit 40k while taking so little damage is just nuts. DK has always been one of if not the tankiest class in the game anyways, it's part of the problem.
You won't convince players that think DK was bad for a period longer than the 6 months ZOS made DoTs not stack from the same source (effectively nerfed DKs in PvP and PvE that ran mag builds). OH, wait, some still think taking reflect off wings was unfair even though at the time that reflect completely shut down all mag builds in the game.
Yeah, no getting through to them.
His arguments don’t even make sense, and he never seems willing to engage with anyone in good faith. A lot of the time, he ends up arguing against points he made up himself instead of actually responding to the person he’s quoting. At this point, it just comes across as him defending DK because he enjoys how strong the character is and doesn’t want to see it nerfed.
You would think that someone that claims to be a "god pvper" would understand the basics like stacking more resist doesn't work versus corrosive.
crit resistance helps against corrosive
And no one claimed they're god tier pvpers lol, i did say i know how to use block when needed without perma blocking tho, if that equates to saying im god tier then yall need to raise your bars higher
This person already responded to your crit resist argument. Troll will troll.0 -
Luna_the_Rat✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
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✭✭If people here wanna be defeatist and take zero suggestions to better themselves thats not my problem and stating ways to improve isnt trolling. Saying to block, oh i cant be expected to block when needed always.
Of course not, the game is supposed to have counterplay, but you block you'll die less. Say to raise your crit resistance, oh thats not good enough to prevent death alone. Of course not, but it helps. rallying cry literally exists for the people who have trouble with getting burst by people running monomyth and crit builds for high burst. Blocking, crit resistances, and healing burst keeps you alive.
If you're a cyrodiil regular you're used to it and its why people like hev never got hit with something like this. The stuff yall are complaining you cant do most greyhost pvpers have already long since adapted to. Especially the sorc players with their immense damage shield spams.
Idk what to tell yall, but argumentum ad nauseam isnt gonna convince the population of players that came back because of the dk refresh that they shouldnt wait for warden's before thinking about major class nerfs, especially with class masteries right there to smooth over balancing issues.0 -
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✭✭Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me1 -
CannedChicken✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
The “people in these threads just want DK nerfed for no reason” argument is getting pretty tired, especially when we’ve already explained multiple times why the ability is a problem.
You can disagree with the arguments, but pretending there haven’t been actual reasons given and reducing everyone’s position to “they’re salty” is just a strawman. Nobody is asking for DK to be nerfed for no reason. The entire discussion has been about specific mechanics, the lack of meaningful counterplay, and the disproportionate results they can produce.
If you haven’t absorbed any of that by now, repeating “they just want DK nerfed” doesn’t really strengthen your position—it just avoids addressing the arguments that have already been made because you have a weak position.
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✭✭CannedChicken wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
The “people in these threads just want DK nerfed for no reason” argument is getting pretty tired, especially when we’ve already explained multiple times why the ability is a problem.
You can disagree with the arguments, but pretending there haven’t been actual reasons given and reducing everyone’s position to “they’re salty” is just a strawman. Nobody is asking for DK to be nerfed for no reason. The entire discussion has been about specific mechanics, the lack of meaningful counterplay, and the disproportionate results they can produce.
If you haven’t absorbed any of that by now, repeating “they just want DK nerfed” doesn’t really strengthen your position—it just avoids addressing the arguments that have already been made because you have a weak position.
Ive given actual solutions and that gets ignored too so we're even, for some reason altering dk masteries and buffing other class masteries is ignored, probably because these players dont want balance they just want dk gutted.0 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
LOL
Yeah this guy is not an authority figure on what does and doesn't need to be nerfed.3 -
Luna_the_Rat✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
LOL
Yeah this guy is not an authority figure on what does and doesn't need to be nerfed.
You turned down the duel after going offline for a reason lol your whole team was busy parsing on me with no damage and three healers behind you xD I think I do pretty well fighting solo against groups with three healers.
What are you talking about? I'm not in the BG nor is anyone I know. You constantly just make things up. I play at higher MMRs I recognize none of these people, sorry lol
Also if you are challenging someone to a duel after you lose a BG that tells me so much about you as a player. No wonder you don't want DK nerfed.Edited by NovelliESO on 10 August 2026 19:442 -
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✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »crit resistance helps against corrosive
No one claimed it doesn't. Another strawman. Someone already pointed out that all that crit resist disappears when the person has far strider, but you ignored that post as per tradition.BardokRedSnow wrote: »And no one claimed they're god tier pvpers lol, i did say i know how to use block when needed without perma blocking tho, if that equates to saying im god tier then yall need to raise your bars higherBardokRedSnow wrote: »Maybe because i play souls games but its pretty easy to block a dk burst
There are various other quotes in here where you brag about how good you are. Literally 3 posts ago you bragged about how much damage you could do in a BG.
"I never claimed to be a god-tier pvper". Proceeds to post screenshots and brag about how good he is.
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✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
LOL
Yeah this guy is not an authority figure on what does and doesn't need to be nerfed.
As I said it was a game vs three healers lol, and its the worst game i had all day, but hey if that makes you feel better
I do quite well in the game, trying to shame me for two kills three deaths vs a team with three healers is pretty funny
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✭✭Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?1 -
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✭✭Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »crit resistance helps against corrosive
No one claimed it doesn't. Another strawman. Someone already pointed out that all that crit resist disappears when the person has far strider, but you ignored that post as per tradition.BardokRedSnow wrote: »And no one claimed they're god tier pvpers lol, i did say i know how to use block when needed without perma blocking tho, if that equates to saying im god tier then yall need to raise your bars higherBardokRedSnow wrote: »Maybe because i play souls games but its pretty easy to block a dk burst
There are various other quotes in here where you brag about how good you are. Literally 3 posts ago you bragged about how much damage you could do in a BG.
I didnt brag it was just a fact, that game theyre trying to shame me over had me doing 2 mil damage. They healed through all of it, we lost because we had zero healers. What yall take as bragging is just average gameplay, most dk do around 2mil damage or more per game, 3 and above for better pressure build players.0 -
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✭✭Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »crit resistance helps against corrosive
No one claimed it doesn't. Another strawman. Someone already pointed out that all that crit resist disappears when the person has far strider, but you ignored that post as per tradition.BardokRedSnow wrote: »And no one claimed they're god tier pvpers lol, i did say i know how to use block when needed without perma blocking tho, if that equates to saying im god tier then yall need to raise your bars higherBardokRedSnow wrote: »Maybe because i play souls games but its pretty easy to block a dk burst
There are various other quotes in here where you brag about how good you are. Literally 3 posts ago you bragged about how much damage you could do in a BG.
"I never claimed to be a god-tier pvper". Proceeds to post screenshots and brag about how good he is.
After someone posts the one game i didnt go super positive on after losing to me prior0 -
Luna_the_Rat✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.3 -
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✭✭Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.0 -
Luna_the_Rat✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.3 -
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✭✭Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!0 -
SandandStars✭✭✭✭✭AND IMAGINE playing a DK in PVP right now, say, a battleground, where you ignore the objectives entirely and just run around mashing that whip button (oh, and recharging your sustain at will).
You finish the match with 34-2-19 k/d ratio, somewhere near the bottom of your team on points.
Your 2 deaths were from when you actually tried to fight another DK or Werewolf, but then you left them alone and went about your business killing 'plars, necros, wardens & arcanists. Not so much the sorcs, because sometimes a skilled sorc might kill you.
You must be so skilled to rack up such a high k-d ratio on DK. You're just that good.1 -
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✭✭They cant play objective if they're dead. Not everyone needs to go for objectives on the team.0 -
Luna_the_Rat✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Stay Salty.
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MeridiaFavorsMe✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.2 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Stay Salty.
Im not even close to mad lol have a good day at work0 -
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✭✭MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.
If that makes you feel better sure, im a trashcan player.1 -
Teeba_Shei✭✭✭✭✭
✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.
If that makes you feel better sure, im a trashcan player.
Bro you're beet red furious. You've got more replies to this thread than any other person.3 -
CannedChicken✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.
If that makes you feel better sure, im a trashcan player.
Only a trashcan would come into a thread and try to defend a 41k whip.2 -
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✭✭Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.
If that makes you feel better sure, im a trashcan player.
Bro you're beet red furious. You've got more replies to this thread than any other person.
I dont think anyone here can try and act like they're not posting here a lot xD But trust, Im not mad when one of yall decided to message me offline after they dodged a duel
All this again because someone suggested you do something different in the game, and yall are quoting every last response of mine again and again. But Im the one thats mad.
Again, why cant class masteries be nerfed for dk and everything else remain the same, then buff other classes masteries? Why is that suggestion being ignored?0 -
CannedChicken✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.
If that makes you feel better sure, im a trashcan player.
Bro you're beet red furious. You've got more replies to this thread than any other person.
I dont think anyone here can try and act like they're not posting here a lot xD But trust, Im not mad when one of yall decided to message me offline after they dodged a duel
All this again because someone suggested you do something different in the game, and yall are quoting every last response of mine again and again. But Im the one thats mad.
Again, why cant class masteries be nerfed for dk and everything else remain the same, then buff other classes masteries? Why is that suggestion being ignored?
Why would you target class masteries when molten whip is the issue? The only mastery that is uniquely increasing DK’s damage here is landslide, and even that is only 10% extra damage. You already get major berserk from chains.
A 10% damage increase isn’t what suddenly makes DKs capable of hitting 41k molten whips. If the problem is the absurd burst coming from molten whip, then address molten whip instead of nerfing unrelated class masteries.
Can you try to make one argument that actually makes sense? Do a little math? Maybe use a little logic?3 -
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✭✭CannedChicken wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »MeridiaFavorsMe wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Or you can hide behind three healers and whisper me offline.Luna_the_Rat wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Yep, going to have to agree with Bardok on this. I regularly pvp as stage 3 - 4 vampire, dk and non dk. I've never been hit by a whip for more than 17k at the most extreme end(Ballgroup with loads of buffs and debuffs present... like a pve raid group huh). And even the occasional non-ballgroup ones that can hit me that hard, it still takes two of them coordinating ult dump focusing me to achieve that. The vast majority of hits I see are in the 7 - 9k range.
The 40k once in a lifetime whip vs
12 ballgroup members with a damage shield larger then a permablock necro in goliath form as an active emperor buffing the health pool, still not getting close to topping 120k, layered off a 57k base health underneath it. And there's 40k health dds in that group landing 50k 1gcd bursts sheltered by 50k -120k damage shields at all times.
I see you out there makin dk look silly on your subclass build also so im not surprised you know
Meanwhile someone messaged me from the forums from a bg game where they sat behind three healers and are talkin trash, i did 2 mil damage and they healed through it all and are calling me trash and messaging me while offline so i cant respond back xD
the people in these threads are just salty and want dk nerfed Just BecauseTM
Hold your L and whine more.
If a 2 kill 3 death match is the worst L i take i think im doin ok lol
Especially when that 2 kill 3 deaths match had me doin 2 mil damage against a team with 3 healers XD Sorry but thats not enough to embarrass me
A lot of excuses, but little talent.
Then why'd you turn down the duel request after appearing offline so I couldnt respond?
Appearing? I have to get ready for work unlike you. Terminally online, Petulant, delusional and untalented to boot.
But you had enough time to rant at me in whisper and tell me to stop posting, but not duel, understood.
You should follow my advice. Maintain a firm grip on your loss, and continue whining.
I will, 2 kills 3 deaths is far from the worst one can do against a team with 3 healers lol
In fact maybe dk should be buffed since healing is so strong in the game!
Oh, I get it now. You’re just a trash-can player who finally started doing okay in BGs because DK is broken, and now you’re desperate to defend it because you don’t want your crutch taken away.
That explains why you keep dismissing every actual argument about the ability as people being “salty” instead of addressing any of the points being made.
If that makes you feel better sure, im a trashcan player.
Bro you're beet red furious. You've got more replies to this thread than any other person.
I dont think anyone here can try and act like they're not posting here a lot xD But trust, Im not mad when one of yall decided to message me offline after they dodged a duel
All this again because someone suggested you do something different in the game, and yall are quoting every last response of mine again and again. But Im the one thats mad.
Again, why cant class masteries be nerfed for dk and everything else remain the same, then buff other classes masteries? Why is that suggestion being ignored?
Why would you target class masteries when molten whip is the issue? The only mastery that is uniquely increasing DK’s damage here is landslide, and even that is only 10% extra damage. You already get major berserk from chains.
A 10% damage increase isn’t what suddenly makes DKs capable of hitting 41k molten whips. If the problem is the absurd burst coming from molten whip, then address molten whip instead of nerfing unrelated class masteries.
Can you try to make one argument that actually makes sense? Do a little math? Maybe use a little logic?
Molten whip is affected by that class mastery, and its not the only one that can give more damage, lead from the front is free berserk every time we ult if you're not using wildfire embers for pyrebrand.
If you ask me dk didnt need class masteries and it shouldve been kept for classes that havent been reworked yet. But hey if you want us to keep them, I'll keep them.
Molten whip was nerfed specifically because of the existence of class masteries and doesnt grant additional damage after the stacks are built, so obviously that would contribute. People not satisfied with the suggestion of weakening the class masteries and strengthening other classes' masteries really just show they wont be happy until DK is entirely gutted0