Crossplay...

CptTekashi · July 21

So as the dust has now settled. Ill ask this question in hopes that Kevin Or Jess can answer it. As I believe its a huge deal.

IS crossplay still on the cards for the future of ESO?

If thats still being prioritised I feel that will ease a lot of tention in the community knowing eso isn't going anywhere.

LadyGP · July 22

I'd say no.

Prior to this I had some gran theory that.. for ESO to be a 30 year game they would have to do an engine overhall/migration.. and that would take a while obviously.. and while they are doing that it would be the perfect time to work on cross play...

Copium take zero evidence for that but.. they have said ESO is a "30 year game" so... no way it gets there with this engine.

Now that everything has went the way it has... I think the focus will be ES6.

- xCat

Erickson9610 · July 22

I believe Crossplay is necessary.

ESO_player123 · July 22

Judging by the recent news I doubt it will happen.

Mogli · July 22

I wish we could get some official news, because if cross play is canned I know many including myself will likely leave ESO without return.

Radiate77 · July 22

They have had how many interviews stating that Crossplay is coming? I wouldn’t worry too much.

GeneralGrundmann · July 22

You are aware that crossplay, if it still happens, is only planned/technically feasible for instanced content like arenas, dungeons and trials?

No running around with friends from other platforms out in the wild. And hopefully no market crash if platforms can crossplay.

In a nutshell, personal I don't expect much from crossplay.

And making it a 30 years game, no biggie. Finally kill the console servers and alow players remote play with their M$ or Sony accounts on the pc-servers, character migration included for free.

And before the rage starts: I am PS-EU console player just trying to stay realistic.

Ocelot9x · July 22

GeneralGrundmann wrote: »

You are aware that crossplay, if it still happens, is only planned/technically feasible for instanced content like arenas, dungeons and trials?

No running around with friends from other platforms out in the wild. And hopefully no market crash if platforms can crossplay.

In a nutshell, personal I don't expect much from crossplay.

And making it a 30 years game, no biggie. Finally kill the console servers and alow players remote play with their M$ or Sony accounts on the pc-servers, character migration included for free.

And before the rage starts: I am PS-EU console player just trying to stay realistic.

The first take is so wrong, if they successfully implement cross play there's absolutely no reason (technically and conceptually) why it would be only in dungeons/arena/trials lol

It's so needed, console PvP is dying really fast

KalevaLaine · July 22

I would love this. But i don't thinks it's realistic anymore.

They have to stop parts of the website like Crown Store. Dunno how to manage this game anymore. -.-

Eldovar · July 22

For what it is worth they have confirmed on threads that class reworks are still being worked on and also confirmed stuff like the smaller scale PvP map being worked on.

As for crossplay threads: silence.

So don’t have too high hopes for it.

Personally with everything going on right now it’s a waste of resources that could be spend on new content or other improvements that benefit everyone.

GeneralGrundmann · July 22

Ocelot9x wrote: »

GeneralGrundmann wrote: »

You are aware that crossplay, if it still happens, is only planned/technically feasible for instanced content like arenas, dungeons and trials?

No running around with friends from other platforms out in the wild. And hopefully no market crash if platforms can crossplay.

In a nutshell, personal I don't expect much from crossplay.

And making it a 30 years game, no biggie. Finally kill the console servers and alow players remote play with their M$ or Sony accounts on the pc-servers, character migration included for free.

And before the rage starts: I am PS-EU console player just trying to stay realistic.

The first take is so wrong, if they successfully implement cross play there's absolutely no reason (technically and conceptually) why it would be only in dungeons/arena/trials lol

It's so needed, console PvP is dying really fast

It's okay to lol if you feel so.

Just check some of the devs streaming material from even before they layoffs. Especially the part where they speak and differentiate between "crossplay" and "full crossplay". I watched it live so I don't know exactly which stream it was, but perhaps you can find it on your own.

I am all for full crossplay, I just don't expect it any longer.

GeneralGrundmann · July 22

KalevaLaine wrote: »

I would love this. But i don't thinks it's realistic anymore.

They have to stop parts of the website like Crown Store. Dunno how to manage this game anymore. -.-

Yeah, they have to make cuts. Thats why I am thinking the smartest move is to kill the console servers. Or at least the playstation servers because the transition to PC from Xbox might be easier.

edward_frigidhands · July 22

GeneralGrundmann wrote: »

You are aware that crossplay, if it still happens, is only planned/technically feasible for instanced content like arenas, dungeons and trials?

No running around with friends from other platforms out in the wild.

This is completely unverified. So far all they have said is they are interested in implementing it.

No specifics have been provided or even hinted at to arrive at the conclusion that cross play would be confined to instanced content.

Angnos · July 22

Crossplay is in the same boat as the Warden and class reworks: it is delayed, or they can no longer guarantee that it will come out. However, if they tell people that this is the case right now, players will just leave the game. Instead, they keep quiet so people will keep playing, hoping that it still comes out (a 'no news is good news' kind of approach).

They did the exact same thing last year when they transitioned to seasons. Instead of telling us in January what content would drop, they waited several months so they could still get Crown and ESO+ money before people stopped playing due to the lack of content or the shift in direction.

amiiegee · July 22

That’s why we need a statement from ZOS about that.

With the recent happening and the ongoing decreasing in the population numbers, Crossplay is a necessary factor for me, for keep investing time and money into this game - or not.

Panderbander · July 22

FWIW, Guild Wars 2 studio NCSoft had a similar culling of talent back in 2019 and not only continued the game but also produced some of their best work afterward.

CptTekashi · July 22

Exactly my point ... we have people in this thread thinking its instanced based crossplay ^^ lmao ...

even though they said if they where to do it they want to do it properly ..

a confirmation that its still happening would be massive so please if that is the case even if its being delayed would go a long way @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

GeneralGrundmann · July 22

Well, I am open for positive surprises. I am wondering that people are still thinking that crossplay has any priority.

Their is this massive loss of manpower because of the layoffs. And the official news are that a new Fallout and a new TES are the next projects. With additonal help from the guys that normally are responsible only for TESO. Even with less management layers and an optimised workflow, that's really (too) much to do for the remaining ESO-staff.

CAB_Life · July 22

For the long term health of the game, I think class reworks and crossplay should be the priority before any more watered down content like they’ve been rolling out lately. Almost every MMO in existence now that has a console client has crossplay and there’s no way this game survives another 5 years let alone the mythic “30” they once envisioned without it.

GeneralGrundmann · July 22

Now that one class is updated, plus werewolf, from my point of view the class refresh is the top priority. DK and WW play another game compared to all other classes and vampires.

LadyGP · July 22

KalevaLaine wrote: »

I would love this. But i don't thinks it's realistic anymore.

They have to stop parts of the website like Crown Store. Dunno how to manage this game anymore. -.-

Yeah that was a weird one. They could have had (don't come at me) AI generate it and a human proof read it.. would have taken like 30 minutes max of actual work.. kind of wild.

And before you all rage.. every game studio is using ai in some capacity and if you think they aren't you're lying to yourself.

- xCat

KalevaLaine · July 22

LadyGP wrote: »

KalevaLaine wrote: »

I would love this. But i don't thinks it's realistic anymore.

They have to stop parts of the website like Crown Store. Dunno how to manage this game anymore. -.-

Yeah that was a weird one. They could have had (don't come at me) AI generate it and a human proof read it.. would have taken like 30 minutes max of actual work.. kind of wild.

And before you all rage.. every game studio is using ai in some capacity and if you think they aren't you're lying to yourself.

- xCat

Agree.

But Ihave to say I used this maybe a few times. But it is, or was, a nice to have to take a look outside of the game or send it to a freind, whatever.

CptTekashi · July 22

Whats worrying is the silence is telling ... Kevin has responded to me numerous times over the last week on various posts ive made and the fact one of them would have seen this post by now and not commented is worrying.

If crossplay has been scrapped I don't see myself continuing to purchase things in game and probably start to wind down on my time spent in game.

The game NEEDS crossplay, maybe not right now but in the future as cyrodiil gets quiter and the zones start to become quiter like the older base zones it will be needed.

And if theres no crossplay then theres no future for this game its plain nd simple.

Gabriel_H · July 22

CptTekashi wrote: »

So as the dust has now settled. Ill ask this question in hopes that Kevin Or Jess can answer it. As I believe its a huge deal.

IS crossplay still on the cards for the future of ESO?

If thats still being prioritised I feel that will ease a lot of tention in the community knowing eso isn't going anywhere.

Why wouldn't XBox gaming want ESO to be cross-play?!

CptTekashi · July 22

Its not about what people want its about whats feasibly possible now as the teams shrunk to half the size and i understand its roughly what it was when summerset launched but still...

re-assurance goes a long way all we ask is for a "Yes although it has been pushed back or may take longer"

Lugaldu · July 22

CptTekashi wrote: »

Whats worrying is the silence is telling ... Kevin has responded to me numerous times over the last week on various posts ive made and the fact one of them would have seen this post by now and not commented is worrying.

If crossplay has been scrapped I don't see myself continuing to purchase things in game and probably start to wind down on my time spent in game.

The game NEEDS crossplay, maybe not right now but in the future as cyrodiil gets quiter and the zones start to become quiter like the older base zones it will be needed.

And if theres no crossplay then theres no future for this game its plain nd simple.

This game has a huge number of solo players who have been waiting for TES 6 for years. For them, crossplay is completely irrelevant, but new quests and zones are crucial for maintaining interest in the world. Having two questlines, each with eight quests, for an entire year, and no new areas to explore, is incredibly disappointing. Especially now that we know all of this happened before the map layouts were even finalized. So, from my perspective, new, consistent quests and areas are essential to keep people engaged. Also, the housing community with new assets.

Gabriel_H · July 22

CptTekashi wrote: »

Its not about what people want its about whats feasibly possible now as the teams shrunk to half the size and i understand its roughly what it was when summerset launched but still...

re-assurance goes a long way all we ask is for a "Yes although it has been pushed back or may take longer"

The team shrunk, and various divisions are now working closer together under less management.

Gabriel_H · July 22

Lugaldu wrote: »

CptTekashi wrote: »

Whats worrying is the silence is telling ... Kevin has responded to me numerous times over the last week on various posts ive made and the fact one of them would have seen this post by now and not commented is worrying.

If crossplay has been scrapped I don't see myself continuing to purchase things in game and probably start to wind down on my time spent in game.

The game NEEDS crossplay, maybe not right now but in the future as cyrodiil gets quiter and the zones start to become quiter like the older base zones it will be needed.

And if theres no crossplay then theres no future for this game its plain nd simple.

This game has a huge number of solo players who have been waiting for TES 6 for years. For them, crossplay is completely irrelevant, but new quests and zones are crucial for maintaining interest in the world. Having two questlines, each with eight quests, for an entire year, and no new areas to explore, is incredibly disappointing. Especially now that we know all of this happened before the map layouts were even finalized. So, from my perspective, new, consistent quests and areas are essential to keep people engaged. Also, the housing community with new assets.

Year isn't over yet. Two solo dungeons. Nowhere Vault. Sea Battles. And the quest lines were longer than a story zone quest.

Eldovar · July 22

CAB_Life wrote: »

For the long term health of the game, I think class reworks and crossplay should be the priority before any more watered down content like they’ve been rolling out lately. Almost every MMO in existence now that has a console client has crossplay and there’s no way this game survives another 5 years let alone the mythic “30” they once envisioned without it.

Same can be said about content though.

I know the game has a lot of content but if they focus on other areas, there are players who will run out of meaningful stuff to do. (I already did).

Grinding dailies or the occasional new scrap of content isn’t going to keep PvE players in the game long term either. It’s probably not easy for them to choose now how much resources to spend on everything.

Tandor · July 23

They've told us that they're now working through a revised timeline for their plans, and I imagine that Crossplay will be included in that. I can't see why they would want to comment on individual elements until they're ready to release a full development plan. They have said that they will report to the community once they have completed these deliberations.

SaffronCitrusflower · July 23

Everyone is welcome to play on PC if they want to compete with PC players.