Okay, so I made a special build, spent a ton of gold, it's all earned, but how can anyone trust Zos now? Then another item will come out, I'll make a build, and it will be removed from PvP. The ultimate loss of trust in Zos

There's always another great set/build etc.. combo to use. Experiment with different sets, skills etc etc. The 'adjustments' to the signet, is not a game breaker. This type of thing is old news.

JustLovely wrote: »

The mythic is still in game. It's just not effective against players.

Seems like you are just really upset to have your PvP crutch taken away.

Range ganking from stealth really shouldn't be a thing in any PvP environment.

This makes me wonder how long you've been playing PvP in ESO? There have been multiple iterations of range ganking from stealth long before this mythic was released.

This was entirely predictable and IT WAS PREDICTED during the PTS cycle. But, as usual, feedback was ignored and the Signet went live. Shame on ZoS.

So much for the evolution of ZoS away from the old guard (was this Wheeler's idea?). This is a HUGE step backwards, not only in practice but in community optics.

Some of us were starting to think we could trust you, ZoS. You blew it. Shame on you.

MikeSkyrim333 wrote: »

Okay, so I made a special build, spent a ton of gold, it's all earned, but how can anyone trust Zos now? Then another item will come out, I'll make a build, and it will be removed from PvP. The ultimate loss of trust in Zos

So did I. Such is PvP life in ESO. It continues how it always has.

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

Get ready for the massive DK nerfs.

Lol in 2 years when the refreshes come maybe, all they did was nerf one mythic, wouldnt get too excited. Especially when they said for classes, they weren't looking to do more nerfs. Sorry, its the year of the dragon for you.

Anything they nerf will just result in the next thing they start calling to nerf. And on and on over and over again. It needs to stop. Every beautiful character and sets we have ever had, ruined over GH. Make them play Vengeance and put an end to this insanity before you start losing everyone with a repeat of another 11 year cycle of nerfs.

I do see elements of “old ZOS” back already. But really only in one place.

We saw the streams all year so far. We see how they’re really interacting with PTS with the (incredible!) summary threads each week. We see how excited Kira is to talk about the QoL changes, and how excited Finn is to talk about the new encounters like Night Market and Crimson Veldt and the Solo Dungeons. We see how excited Jason is to talk about the Favors and Rumors and the TG and Tamriel’s-most-annoying-Prince questlines…

…but when it comes to the Class refreshes? PvP? Silence.

We finally even got ZOS to say the word “Warden,” and that was like pulling teeth. It was only mentioned in a single thread that was asking why it was so pointedly overlooked in every other stream thus far. Even now, we don’t know if Warden will even keep all of its themes, or if they’re gonna surprise us by making half of existing Wardens irrelevant by removing either the frost or animals.

Every time ZOS plays super secretive like this, half of the players get screwed over somehow.

Not to mention that there’s been no indication of the future Class reworks, and the new Jerall small-scale siege warfare PvP thing got a single (accidental) teaser when they showed off Veterancy and people noticed the zone was not standard Cyrodiil.

I have a feeling a certain dev still thinks that keeping secrets and trying to surprise us is the answer, despite the playerbase resoundingly rejecting that and it always backfiring on them. And since that team is controlling the PvP and Class refreshes, the rule is coming down from them: “Nobody talk about this stuff! No matter how much people beg for info! They’ll totally love the surprise!”

Stop. Every other team is interacting with the players and we feel good about where they are. And the Combat team is leaving us with more questions than answers. We were frustrated with that lack of communication before, and we’re frustrated with it now.

If things need to be delayed to polish, that’s fine. If things need to be tabled to bake longer, that’s fine. But there is no reason to keep secrets. Just tell us. I’m sure you have something you can share by now. Anything.
But this right now makes us feel like you don’t care. And even after the great communication and all of the goodwill from the rest of the year, this is how we feel about everything. This is what we’re taking away from it. You are pretty well throwing away all the positives since all we can see is this one team sticking with the old habits.

With another round of layoffs coming this week according to gaming websites, I'm not sure how much we can hope for.