Is there any reason to keep doing Tamriel Tome after finishing the final page?

Arunei · May 8

Silaf wrote: »

I have eso+ and unlocked the last 2 bonus pages without spending anything on them because i don't have any more tome points.
To be in such a huge surplus you must have skipped cosmetics or opened caches of points.

Plenty of people are skipping things they don't want or need, and each Page requires more Tome Points to unlock than what's needed to buy everything on it, for the most part. Some people have opened caches (I opened 2 on my main but my alt doesn't have Plus) but other people have just really been grinding out all their Challenges fully every week on top of probably grinding out the Seasonal ones too.

And consider; we have roughly 2 more months in the Season, right? Maybe closer to 1.5 really. You still have a bunch of time to get not only the Points needed to buy everything on those two Pages, but to then have surplus Points just lying around at the end.

It just makes more sense for the bonus Pages to have things you can buy over and over. Or heck, even make it that things on the regular Pages can be bought maybe two or three times instead of once.

AzuraFan · May 8

CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »

I am quite a bit ahead on the tomes but they are designed around casual players and that is as it should be.

This casual player only has the two bonus pages left to unlock, and I haven't finished my challenges yet this week, and I won't be doing the 2k Night Market seasonal challenge.

I like the tomes!

But there's an overabundance of tome points we can earn, since only 2k can roll over. Yes, there should be some excess, so people who are away for a few weeks on vacation or whatever can still open all the pages. But at the rate I'm going, just doing mainly the casual challenges and even skipping the 2k NM seasonal one, I'll have opened the entire premium+bonus tome in a couple of weeks. After buying everything, it won't take me long to earn the 2k points to carry over (if I even need to).

At that point, the challenges will be meaningless, and we'll only be halfway through the season. And there will probably be a few more seasonal challenges too, with even more points to earn, but no reason to earn them.

Not sure what to suggest except to maybe add more stuff to buy on the tome pages, maybe? Dunno.

Also, as an ESO+ subscriber, I can't see when I'd ever need to use my tome point caches, which makes that ESO+ benefit kind of meaningless.

AzuraFan · May 8

Had another thought, which I think some people have already suggested: let us buy non-collection items multiple times. For example, I would have liked to buy the Psijic motif book for a few of my alts, but I could only buy it once. Allowing us to buy items multiple times would use up some of those excess tome points.

Syldras · May 8

Toanis wrote: »

As someone who powererd through the tome for the last month, I now have a well deserved 2 months break, where I can priorize the things I actually want to do (culling Wrothgar wildlife was definitely nowhere on that list.).

I've done the same, but at the same time I think the whole thing is actually rather sad: Putting hours of time into doing things one doesn't actually want to do, before one can actually do the things one finds fun. Yes, one gets some rewards, but who really profits from playtime bloated by ever-repeating filler content (utilizing only old things, so basically zero production costs) is not the player.

DenverRalphy · May 8

Syldras wrote: »

Toanis wrote: »

As someone who powererd through the tome for the last month, I now have a well deserved 2 months break, where I can priorize the things I actually want to do (culling Wrothgar wildlife was definitely nowhere on that list.).

I've done the same, but at the same time I think the whole thing is actually rather sad: Putting hours of time into doing things one doesn't actually want to do, before one can actually do the things one finds fun. Yes, one gets some rewards, but who really profits from playtime bloated by ever-repeating filler content (utilizing only old things, so basically zero production costs) is not the player.

Instead of putting all those hours into grinding out tome points from the jump, why not just fit them in casually while doing all the things the player finds fun? No need to sprint to the end of the tome when given 3 months to complete it.

Syldras · May 8

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Instead of putting all those hours into grinding out tome points from the jump, why not just fit them in casually while doing all the things the player finds fun? No need to sprint to the end of the tome when given 3 months to complete it.

I think the tasks are too specific. Some specific world boss in Wrothgar or some specific dungeon boss might not be on someone's plan for the next weeks (or even months) at all. Or collecting 90 wood nodes. And you can only have some limited number of them active at the same time, too.

It would feel absolutely different if there was a list of 150 tasks for the whole 3 months at once, with many different activities - that would probably just complete on its own while playing. But not the way it is now.

But I don't see this would ever get changed, because grindy filler chores utilizing old content = high player engagement for low costs.

DenverRalphy · May 8

The tasks don't need to align perfectly IMO. Perhaps it's just me, but I find it quite common to have time to kill while waiting on others. Can't commit to any substantial activity because I have to logout within a certain timeframe, but have enough time I can knock out a couple quick world bosses. Or even find myself wandering aimlessly because I just haven't made up my mind exactly what I'd like to accomplish for the day. And a myriad of other null-activity scenarios.

All opportunities to casually knock out challenges. And any activity that I just flat out won't ever do? I just reroll em.

whitecrow · May 8

I do think tasks should be more general, like world bosses or foes rather than a specific one or type or region. It could be better integrated with our normal gameplay.

I actually find the harvesting ones easy because there is stuff everywhere.

Syldras · May 8

I usually don't group in ESO (first exception was the Night Market right now, but I've gotten tired of it after a week - but that's a different topic). I usually only have 1 or 2 hours of time per evening, so I log in, do what I plan to do, and log off again. No idling around.

It's true that gathering mats is probably one of the easier tasks, but for some players, it's probably still nothing they normally do (if one doesn't trade, how much mats does one even need just for crafting?).

Anyway, I generally think the reliance on chores to get people to spend more time in ESO, instead of attracting them with real content, is a bit sad. Not saying there is no real content anymore - the Night Market clearly is - , but I still remember times in ESO (pre-2021, which means the first 7 years or so) when the actual game content alone was what got players into logging in and playing.

BretonMage · May 8

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Tomes needs a repeatable page filled with useful buys like tr-stats, seals, trade bars

And the furnishings, too. There's no reason why we shouldn't have several of the bookcases or the dusklight motes.

Necrotech_Master · May 8

BretonMage wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Tomes needs a repeatable page filled with useful buys like tr-stats, seals, trade bars

And the furnishings, too. There's no reason why we shouldn't have several of the bookcases or the dusklight motes.

i wish the furnishings from the tome were tradeable, to me the furnishing packs are useless if i cant trade/sell them lol

at least most of the other rewards are somewhat ok

for the OP my personal take is no there is no reason to do the tome tasks once you have everything you want out of it, especially because the tome pts do not carry over and are converted into basically a useless currency like gold (would much rather them be crowns or seals but not gold)

AzuraFan · May 8

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

for the OP my personal take is no there is no reason to do the tome tasks once you have everything you want out of it, especially because the tome pts do not carry over and are converted into basically a useless currency like gold (would much rather them be crowns or seals but not gold)

If they let us choose the currency to convert excess points to, it would give me a reason to keep earning points after I've bought everything available. I agree with you that gold isn't worth it.