liliub17_ESO wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

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@Personofsecrets Faction choice is irrelevant. You can group with anyone from any faction. You can share quest with anyone from any faction. And you can advance quest objectives together with anyone from any faction. Factions have literally zero impact on gameplay....

So I must ask: why bother having factions? What is the purpose of these factions to the game, lore-wise or story-wise? Why choose one faction over the others if it really doesn't matter?

Giving the benefit of the doubt, I would assume they took the idea from the 3 factions for Cyrodiil and tried to copy that. But if that was the idea, it fails because were you have Cyrodiil that refreshes monthly year after year, this is a short term event. I pointed this out the first night that 1 faction had 4x the Faction score as the other 2 and it has held true till now. On PC EU Thousand Eyes has 21mill, while the other barely have 5 mill, and they have been pacing the at the same 4x rate the whole time. This means they probably have 4x the players, and will never be cause by the other 2, so if you are just now joining, go for Thousand Eyes if you want to be on the winning team. I sadly will be on one of the other teams. If they really wanted to make this a balanced event, they should have the total faction scores divided by the number of people in the faction. That way it matters more how dedicated you are, not just who has more players.

From a pessimistic (historical) perspective, the whole reason for factions would be so things can be locked behind other releases. Personally I'm just going to sit this one out. I have about 700 favor after 2 days and its not worth it for someone who doesn't already have a dedicated group they play with. (If I did have a dedicated group I regularly ran with, this would actually be a lot more fun). But Next time, I'm just going to wait a few days to see which faction is in the lead and join that one.

liliub17_ESO wrote: »

AnnaMolly66 wrote: »

liliub17_ESO wrote: »

AnnaMolly66 wrote: »

Re: "silence from the devs"

They aren't going to say anything yet, we're still in public testing and evaluation phase, they're likely looking over the forums for bug complaints, watching metrics, and making hot fixes as necessary. I do hope they're listening to feedback because there are issues with the event but that's more incentives and such.

The content is live, notably *not* "in public testing and evaluation phase".

It's not the content being tested.

Ok. If not the content, then are they testing the player base? Because those are your options. The daedra don't care.

They're evaluating how the community performs, clears, and responds to the content. Hence the watching metrics, recently announcing a world first deathless clear, etc

Needed Skirmish in sorrows. Entered and exited three times til I found one with that Skirmish active. Formed a group over ten minutes. They arrived and we had to fight the traveling boss. Killed it then turned around and was now inactive. There was no indication that this was going to happen. A complete waste of time for me and everyone in the group. If it's going to go inactive there should be some indication of how long before it does.

Valentyne wrote: »

SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »

Oh my god, I now understand who this is for!

Pvpers! They seem to love it!

Looking at similarities between NM & GH can see why……🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Seriously, its Friday evening and NO ONE on my pvp guild is in Cyro. Bit sad really.

You clearly have not played Cyrodil to any real capacity if you're comparing it to Night Market lol. Most people that PvP are long time players so yea they're probably going to be checking out new content like myself for the mythic. A lot of pvpers are also involved in trial guilds and doing trifectas because again, long time experienced players often end up in pvp and are good pvpers because both pvp and pve require knowledge of rotations, sets, skills, etc.

It would be like me comparing Night Market to Elsweyr events because 500 people zerg down the Dragons before they even get a chance to land. It's going to happen in any area where you can have more than 12 people fighting a boss.

Aside from that, I'm seeing a lot of pure pvers mad at Night Market because stuff is too difficult for small groups or solo. It was advertised as group content for I don't even know how long. You can literally go to Activity Finder > Find Group > Event Zone and join at any given time at least 5 different groups doing different areas in the zone.

While the content is quite lack luster there is plenty of options to go about doing it as a solo. I opted to gear up my NB healer and have had 0 issue running around the zones healing groups or just joining groups to do the content.

At this point I now have all the keys for the Opulent Trial as a mostly solo player and have had quite literally 0 issues getting them by using the tools the game provided.

I get people are always going to find something to be frustrated about in a game this large, but the game also has to provide to everyone which is does a rather good job of doing, sadly not all content is going to be specifically catered to one person's opinion and is going to require you to change builds, join groups, learn new mechanics, and actually do more than just heavy attack with a build you put together off Youtube.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

Miss know it all lol

I've commented a few times over the days but I've made more progress and have more to say.

RNG Splinters remains some BS, I think it should be done away with. I've gotten them now.

I don't know what I expected... but the "Dungeons" just being a single boss in a circle room was not it. Very underwhelming.

Trial has a decent mechanic cadence. Can't say it was the most fun I've ever had, but its also the first Trial I've done so idk how it fairly stacks up to others.

I think Nightmarket could use a Normal and Veteran mode (with what we have now being Veteran for the cheeky lads out there).

It should also just be a permanent addition to the game and players should learn the fundamentals of grouping and group play in the Normal Mode there. Imo one of the biggest failures of this game is the complete lack of a throughline between Solo Overworld Play and Group Content Play. This game needs to teach group roles and mechanics much earlier and this content COULD be used for that if it was designed to have a much more accessible mode.

Rewards need to be looked at across the board. Gear drops are trash. And the XP and Gold gains for the time spent are laughable.

Lastly I think the whole scoring system is... well... not it.

There's potential here, but its a long way from being met.

This content is not for me so guess I can't really give any feedback other than for me it's another game addition I don't care for as they all have been recently. Last game addition I really liked was Telvanni.

Feedback for third evening (and perhaps a bit encouragement for struggling players):

A little less progress today - yesterday I got 750 favor, today only 675 (Note: I don't have much time for gaming, so we're talking about circa 1 to 2.5 hours per evening here). Is it meagre for that amount of time? I don't know. But what I think matters is: Even if it was only 500 a day, the 5000 points to unlock the bank vault would be reached in 10 days. The maximum favor to be able to buy every item at the faction merchant is 10000. So that would be at most 20 days, the event is running for 2 months - that looks absolutely achievable to me. And I gain most favor not by combat, but by just running around questing. As long as a soloist is able to move around in the combat areas, that's enough to get the bank and unlock all available furnishings for sale in between 2 and 3 weeks (with combat even much faster - but what I wanted to note is that even if you don't do combat, you can achieve this).

Side note: The visibility of quest markers is still horrible. Missing people and propaganda, especially.

I still have the same tactics like the past few days: Running around in the combat zones, doing quests (both from the plaza as well as the combat zone ones - the armor drops in those boxes are trash, but you get favor at least), and while roaming the map I keep my eyes open for other players and join in during fights when ever possible. What I noticed is that I barely take damage while just moving around in the Spider District - what ever it's called in English - anymore, probably because I know the map by now and can easily outrun the mobs (I need to heal noticeably more in those other two zones I've havent done much in yet - it really is a question of practice).

Apart from gaining favor, I had planned for this evening to get the remaining 3 fragments for the Eye of Arac - from 2 bronze and 1 silver boss, so a very straightforward task. Unfortunately, the joys of human interaction prevented it. When I logged in, the silver boss was currently active - I joined in, but at some point, the group just scattered?! Later, I tried again when another group was there, we had halved the boss' hp, then some person pulled it away and it resetted. Instead of trying again, the majority of people ragequitted, ran off or teleported out. With no one left, then I decided to take a break, too.

When I logged in again, that silver boss was gone, but the two bronze bosses were there. I stood there and waited for more people. No one came. People ran past, no one joined. I moved to the roof top nearby - one person standing around there, but afk. Later, there was a whole group of people standing around on the roof - doing who knows what, but completely unreactive. No reaction to chat. No joining in when I headed for the boss. They just stood there on the roof and did nothing. I waited for a whole while, nothing happened (now, consider what that means if the player cap for an instance is 36 and then there are whole groups just standing around afk - not blaming them, maybe they're not even aware of the player cap, but for group content with a player cap, that is a problem, of course). In the end, I logged off. Maybe I'm luckier tomorrow.

I got 3 fragments for another artifact today, at least (2 for boss fights, 1 from the quest box).

Been running Night Market a lot since release. Some solo, some small group, some large group. ~6500 favor.

Overall, the new content is really cool. I'm loving the difficulty level and ad hoc coordination between groups. It feels like this is what Craglorn was supposed to be, an open zone requiring group play for the difficult bits.

Main complaint: consuming keys makes coordinating a full 12-man team ridiculous. Requiring the keys is not the problem. But consuming the keys creates a logistical nightmare for raid teams. Getting everyone together on the same page is too tedious, and it takes so long that you can lose half the group before collecting the keys that one player needed. The logistical bar is too high already, and will only get worse as participation drops off.

Minor complaint: randos who don't know wtf they are doing are capable of screwing up the mechanics on skirmish fights. Our group was stalled by randos grabbing the motes and not attuning the rods, for example. Mechanics should avoid punishing groups for the actions of randos.

Bonus complaint: not enough population! It's awesome when groups team up on a tough encounter, but that doesn't happen enough at these population levels. It's fun running into other solo players or small groups, but there are not enough of them. Raise the population cap per zone!

A few bugs:
1) Single-target abilities randomly busted. (Or is that a feature?)
2) Disconnected during the werewolf fight hunt mechanic, causing the werewolf to get stuck and unable to progress for the team left behind.
3) The duneripper got stuck unkillable after his insides were all busted.
4) Respawned on the rooftop once, and immediately died again while already dead (died in ghost form). It was the most dead I have ever been. Was permanently stuck dead until relogging.

Now that I have the relics I decided to try the oddities. It would be great if the timer was reduced. I'm trying to do the guiding light by myself and need to figure it out. Waiting 5 min just for another attempt seems like a gigantic waste of time. It's not like the puzzles give uber loot every time they are solved.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom just wanted to bring your attention to an image claiming to be from ZOS making the rounds. Obviously you can see its fake but paints ZOS in a bad way[/quote]

I think it i kind of funny and very well done. [/quote]

Had this been a year ago, it would have been a lot more believable. But they have done a really good job this last year in communicating with the community. Also, yeah. Wish this had been the first post to start the forum. I'm goin to grab a flashlight and look for some grass to touch.

I am back to give more feedback, this time for the dungeons and the trial.

For the dungeons, I thought they were ok. I did them as a first time tanker since there was a huge tank shortage. Overall, two of them were pretty easy, but one of them I found too difficult. A problem I've noticed in all of the dungeons was that there was no battle music, so the fights felt kind of anti climatic because of it. My biggest gripe about the dungeons were finding people for it. I will make a group finder listing and would constantly get clueless players who would join and not have the relic, forcing me to relist the group finder. I even made it clear in the listing that the relic was needed and linked the achievement. That didn't stop people from not reading and joining without the relic. I feel there needs to be a better way to get a dungeon going to prevent headaches.

I'll rank the dungeons from easiest to hardest.

1. Mournful Catacomb: This was the easiest dungeon by far. The boss didn't do much damage, and there weren't too many adds spawning. The adds also did not do much damage. I was able to do this dungeon as the tank with 3 DD. The best feedback I can give to this dungeon is don't show the portal mechanic to the tank. I synergized the green circle as the tank when it first showed up since no one else did and ended up in the portal. The portal only accepts 1 player and you cannot leave unless you die which is what I had to end up doing so some one else can enter it.
2. Timeless Wallow: This was my favorite dungeon, especially the way the arena was designed. I feel like the difficulty was just right too. I wasn't blessed with a good group DD wise. Total group DPS was about 25k, and as the tank, I was doing about 15-20% of the group damage. Despite this, it only took the group I was with 2 tries to beat it. The mechanics were pretty intuitive, and adds only spawn at a % and don't respawn once dead which made the fight feel clean. The feedback I could give for this dungeon is to make the crushing darkness mechanic work how it does in cloudrest. The crushing darkness in this dungeon targets the DDs rather than the tank and the furthest away player. The DDs in my group kept dying to the mechanic because they weren't great with kite mechanics, but also because it did enough damage to one shot them before they can react, probably because they were stacked which also stacked the mechanic on them. As the tank, there was nothing I could do about that.
3. Gossamer Crypt: This was the hardest dungeon by far for me. So much so that I had to swap to DD in order to get it down. Again for this dungeon, I wasn't blessed with a good group DD wise. Group DPS was the same as Timeless Wallow, but this time I was doing about 30% of the group damage. When I swapped to DD and had someone else tank, it was better because I could put out damage, but I still feel like the mechanics for this dungeon are overtuned compared to the other two. As the tank, my issues with this dungeon was the frequent enrage mechanic which seemed to have enraged everything. I will do the mechanic to unenrage the boss, but it will become enraged again within 15 seconds. On top of this, the two adds spawned about every 30 seconds after dying, and can actually be pretty dangerous with their heavy attacks on top of the enraged boss and lightning strikes happening throughout the entire fight. I think the biggest issue with this fight was the spider that spawned every minute. I don't know if it's linked to the enrage mechanic, but whenever it spawned and was glowing red, there were about 5 smaller spiders wiping the DDs. The DDs that I had when I was a tank didn't have enough damage to prevent someone from dying, usually the healer, when they were being pulled, and they were also being pulled back by the boss which required me to place the boss on top of the spider so they wouldn't get pulled in by the boss. The feedback I would give for this boss is to lower the frequency of the enrage mechanic, and lower the health of the spider and 2 adds. When I was my DD, it wasn't so bad. I alone was doing about 100k DPS on the spider each time it spawned, so having 2 good DDs will make the fight a breeze, but this is an event zone and most of the DDs someone will get as tank will be a roleplayer who can't do damage making the fight a slog.

For the trial, I found it really fun. It only took the group I found 2 tries, but I liked the flow of the fight. I was fortunately blessed with people who knew mostly what to do, and that is going to be the key phrase here. I'd imagine if I got into the trial again with people who didn't know what to do, it will be really chaotic. It's on par with a regular vet trial around 2018-2020, so it's not too difficult, but I can see that it requires a lot of coordination. But like with any trial, people should come prepared. I wouldn't change anything about the mechanics for this trial even if I don't fully understand the orb passing mechanic, but outside that, it flows really well when people know what to do. It's also interesting for this dungeon to need 3 tanks and 9 DD with. I suspect healers aren't too happy about that. The would no doubt be helpful in execute, but there isn't too much incoming damage and DDs with self heals will be more than enough to get through it. My only feedback I would give is to make the grapple poles easier to target, mostly on the purple side. After passing/picking up the orb from the purple side, you can go back to the large island directly in front, and then there is a pole high up on the island immediately to the left, but it was too inconsistent with being able to target it. I usually had to run up the ramp on the larger island first to be able to target it, but outside that, I felt everything was designed really well.

Disgustingly laggy just like any pvp or vet maelstrom arena.

Also there is no one here.

Estin wrote: »

I am back to give more feedback, this time for the dungeons and the trial.

For the dungeons, I thought they were ok. I did them as a first time tanker since there was a huge tank shortage. Overall, two of them were pretty easy, but one of them I found too difficult. A problem I've noticed in all of the dungeons was that there was no battle music, so the fights felt kind of anti climatic because of it. My biggest gripe about the dungeons were finding people for it. I will make a group finder listing and would constantly get clueless players who would join and not have the relic, forcing me to relist the group finder. I even made it clear in the listing that the relic was needed and linked the achievement. That didn't stop people from not reading and joining without the relic. I feel there needs to be a better way to get a dungeon going to prevent headaches.

I'll rank the dungeons from easiest to hardest.

1. Mournful Catacomb: This was the easiest dungeon by far. The boss didn't do much damage, and there weren't too many adds spawning. The adds also did not do much damage. I was able to do this dungeon as the tank with 3 DD. The best feedback I can give to this dungeon is don't show the portal mechanic to the tank. I synergized the green circle as the tank when it first showed up since no one else did and ended up in the portal. The portal only accepts 1 player and you cannot leave unless you die which is what I had to end up doing so some one else can enter it.
2. Timeless Wallow: This was my favorite dungeon, especially the way the arena was designed. I feel like the difficulty was just right too. I wasn't blessed with a good group DD wise. Total group DPS was about 25k, and as the tank, I was doing about 15-20% of the group damage. Despite this, it only took the group I was with 2 tries to beat it. The mechanics were pretty intuitive, and adds only spawn at a % and don't respawn once dead which made the fight feel clean. The feedback I could give for this dungeon is to make the crushing darkness mechanic work how it does in cloudrest. The crushing darkness in this dungeon targets the DDs rather than the tank and the furthest away player. The DDs in my group kept dying to the mechanic because they weren't great with kite mechanics, but also because it did enough damage to one shot them before they can react, probably because they were stacked which also stacked the mechanic on them. As the tank, there was nothing I could do about that.
3. Gossamer Crypt: This was the hardest dungeon by far for me. So much so that I had to swap to DD in order to get it down. Again for this dungeon, I wasn't blessed with a good group DD wise. Group DPS was the same as Timeless Wallow, but this time I was doing about 30% of the group damage. When I swapped to DD and had someone else tank, it was better because I could put out damage, but I still feel like the mechanics for this dungeon are overtuned compared to the other two. As the tank, my issues with this dungeon was the frequent enrage mechanic which seemed to have enraged everything. I will do the mechanic to unenrage the boss, but it will become enraged again within 15 seconds. On top of this, the two adds spawned about every 30 seconds after dying, and can actually be pretty dangerous with their heavy attacks on top of the enraged boss and lightning strikes happening throughout the entire fight. I think the biggest issue with this fight was the spider that spawned every minute. I don't know if it's linked to the enrage mechanic, but whenever it spawned and was glowing red, there were about 5 smaller spiders wiping the DDs. The DDs that I had when I was a tank didn't have enough damage to prevent someone from dying, usually the healer, when they were being pulled, and they were also being pulled back by the boss which required me to place the boss on top of the spider so they wouldn't get pulled in by the boss. The feedback I would give for this boss is to lower the frequency of the enrage mechanic, and lower the health of the spider and 2 adds. When I was my DD, it wasn't so bad. I alone was doing about 100k DPS on the spider each time it spawned, so having 2 good DDs will make the fight a breeze, but this is an event zone and most of the DDs someone will get as tank will be a roleplayer who can't do damage making the fight a slog.

For the trial, I found it really fun. It only took the group I found 2 tries, but I liked the flow of the fight. I was fortunately blessed with people who knew mostly what to do, and that is going to be the key phrase here. I'd imagine if I got into the trial again with people who didn't know what to do, it will be really chaotic. It's on par with a regular vet trial around 2018-2020, so it's not too difficult, but I can see that it requires a lot of coordination. But like with any trial, people should come prepared. I wouldn't change anything about the mechanics for this trial even if I don't fully understand the orb passing mechanic, but outside that, it flows really well when people know what to do. It's also interesting for this dungeon to need 3 tanks and 9 DD with. I suspect healers aren't too happy about that. The would no doubt be helpful in execute, but there isn't too much incoming damage and DDs with self heals will be more than enough to get through it. My only feedback I would give is to make the grapple poles easier to target, mostly on the purple side. After passing/picking up the orb from the purple side, you can go back to the large island directly in front, and then there is a pole high up on the island immediately to the left, but it was too inconsistent with being able to target it. I usually had to run up the ramp on the larger island first to be able to target it, but outside that, I felt everything was designed really well.

Agree that Gossamer Crypt is way harder than the other two and brought out the worst in my PUG.

I have only had three days playing here, so I'm not ready to make a full report yet.

BIGGEST SINGLE issue I have run into, though, so far, is the population cap. There is NO ONE around, in any instance, unless you group via Group Finder, and jump to the instance where the group is. Then, there is usually just that group there.

Why in the world is the population cap so low? A lot of people are looking to "solo" Night Market. You can sort of actually do that, by "mobbing" rather than grouping...just joining a mob of ungrouped players. The first day I played NM, that was what everything was...there seemed to be about 18-20 people in the instance I was in, all in the same district, and it was actually pretty easy to get around, get the quests done, etc.

However, days two and three, it seems like players are getting widely distributed across different server instances, or something? Or perhaps the limit of 30 people are being spread out more in all three districts? That leaves you with about 10 people per district, IF you have 30 people. So far, it seems like maybe there are about 10 people an instance tops, all spread out between the main area and the districts, so you usually only encounter a player here and there in any given district just occasionally... With the enemies all being designed for group play, if there are only a handful of people around at any given time, you can't really even go about "mobbing" with ungrouped players...there are just never enough of them.,

By limiting each NM server instance to just 30 people, you have SEVERELY restricted group or ungrouped "mobbing" play. You force people to look at the Group Finder, and thus far I've found most GF groups are looking to do something very specific...specific boss or bosses, in a specific district. That makes it very difficult to do anything else in any of the districts.

The ungrouped "mobbing" play is actually quite fun, you can run around, play with people ad-hoc, but still be somewhat independent and go after the various quests and complete their tasks. I only experienced this once...day 1. Dunno if somehow everyone ended up in a single instance, or if it was just that enough people were playing day 1 that there were enough players for that. It was very fun though, to play NM that way....and easier to get all the various questing done, heck, easier to try and do the oddities!

Days 2 and 3 here, I've had to join GF groups to accomplish anything. Each group had a specific goal, a boss or bosses, in a specific district. Usually once that goal was done, most of the players left. Some groups would re-start GF and list another boss, people would join, we'd do the boss then most of the group would leave. I must have joined a dozen groups that way, and managed to do only about half the quests in each district, because...well, you can't really get around solo, and if a group has a specific goal, most players aren't going to bother running around as a mob doing quest tasks.

Speaking of quests....another issue. The waypoint markers for quest tasks don't show up, until you are literally right on top of them. You can be feet from them, and you don't see a marker...you walk right in front of the poster or body or relic or whatever that you are supposed to activate, and the marker finally appears. This greatly hampers figuring out where to go to finish each quest, especially when you have to time completing them so quickly between groups killing the enemies and those enemies respawning (as that's usually the only way to get any of the quest tasks done when grouping via GF.)

Each server needs more than 30 people....what with there being the central zone where the factions are, as well as THREE different districts. With just 30 people, you might have just 3-5 people per district, some people in the central zone, and some maybe in their night's den. The place is large enough that 30 people can get so spread out, you don't encounter many at any given time. Even with GF grouping...people frequently leave the district to complete quests, or whatever, so even grouped, you often have less than 12 players actively playing in the group at times. Some people come back, some leave the group...

Just not enough people per server instance.

To get the the Scoreboard on Console, D-Pad Right, and Circle.
To scroll through the maps to find the active skirmish, use L1/R1 (bumpers).

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I had better experiences in the Night Market after my first post in this thread, especially since reading Code's helpful guide.

Difficulty:
I can appreciate that it is meant to be hard. And a lot of my friends are enjoying that a lot. A lot of my other friends are so frustrated. But here's the thing: This is some of the main content we're getting this year. No other dungeons. No trial until Crimson Veldt is released. No new zone. THIS was advertised as the thing to hold us over. Okay, great! But if %50 of the player base can't play it because it's too difficult, they are really getting shafted.

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It is generally a lot more fun if we're in huge groups. I managed to get most of the boss-sourced splinters with a large, 12 person group with 2 tanks, 2 healers, and various hangers on making our entire group 16+, and we got most of the bosses down. Including the wandering bosses. And that was fun.

But we weren't able to get the Skittering skirmish fragment, I think it just didn't spawn at the right time, so I went back in today to try to get that splinter. I think it took me around 4 hours. I joined three different 12-player group finders. The first two, we couldn't get the boss down, and the skirmish timed out. Having the fight time out after working on it for a long time is incredibly frustrating.

The third time, there were 2 full 12 player groups, and we did it, but it took a long time.
Having fully 2/3 of the player cap on one skirmish is not great design.We had people going back to the Starlight Plaza to yell to everyone to come help. It kinda worked. The player cap really needs to be raised.

I have yet to see a Faceted boss. And I've been in there for a long time.

Normal vs. Vet for the whole NM:
I think this idea has some merit, but that's going to split up the player base even more. Even now, when the content is new, it's pretty empty. If we split the player base over normal and vet too, there simply won't be enough people to do anything.

It takes too long to gain favor.

Wandering Bosses interacting with the Skirmishes.
- This is a real pain. When I was tanking the skirmish in the Parch, Dunegorger repeatedly swallowed me. To the point that my group was watching the map and let me know when it got remotely close, so I could run away. It sure looked like it was specifically targeting the tanks.
- With Roksa in the Skittering precinct, I was usually the worst tank in the scrum, so I would spend my time unearthing the braziers (since I could survive it, usually) and shooting the spider swarms, and when Roksa would come through, I'd aggro her and lead her further down her path until she killed me, so I could sometimes get her to basically skip the skirmish. But this only worked a couple of times, and usually we had to yell in chat to stop aggroing her, to let her go on her way. It slowed things up a ton.

Post-Relic dungeons:
Are these supposed to have a normal and vet mode? We were doing Gossamer Crypt, and couldn't. Partly because I was tanking and I am a middling tank at best. It was on Vet. So after a few tries, we all left the Night Market and traveled to the base game, and we switched it to Normal. It seemed easier, but all told I spent an hour in there, and we couldn't clear it.

Daily in-precinct quests: they don't spawn at the same points? I laboriously tracked them all down on my thief, and marked them on a map. But I went in on a different character later to find 1-2 quest spawn points I'd missed, and some of the ones I'd marked earlier weren't there! They'd moved. Some were in the same place, but not all.

Night's Den unlocks: The main house is great. But WOW, are the unlocked areas disappointing! One small room each? And ugly rooms at that? Did you deliberately make this house a furniture storage house? It was also unclear that we had to collect the relic from the furnishing box we get in the mail, in order to unlock them.
The treasure room is nice, but we can't move around in it?

I know there's a vault or something in the Night's Den, that I couldn't access the first time I tried. I'll try again tomorrow, now that I have the 3 relics.

Ghost Phase:
This confused me on the first day, but now that I know how to take advantage of it, (running through mobs, aiming the winged section to go over the heads of mobs, etc.) I understand, and it's cool.

Group finder is bugged.

Make Skirmishes more visible.
Make the Doors to the precinct with the Active Skirmish glow? I know we can see it on the map, but paging through the 4 maps on a console is not intuitive at all. I think many players don't know how. And even when we do, the Skirmish Icon is so big, the crossed swords of an active skirmish is really hard to see.

Active Skirmish on Map:
I think there's a bug with the skirmishes, too. I was waiting in the Skittering Precinct, the map showed the skirmish active, but it wasn't. I reloaded ui, I logged out, and every time I came back: map showed active skirmish, no skirmish. I even changed instances a few times, and got back to the bugged one, and it was still bugged.